Best toon for i20?
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Amy_Amp,
Posted on: 2011-04-09 08:18 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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Originally Posted by Breog
I dont want this thread to devolve into yet another Elec vs In thread LOL.
I just wanted to point out, Always asumeing Inv is the King is total wrong. And as always (I should sig it)... Don't sell Elec Short. |
Oh, and never forget:
Stone Armor is King. It is not even close.
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I had my Fire/INV brute on Lambda, soft-capped with 1 foe (Marauder) in range. Without Unstoppable up, he would hit me with over 2500 with his NOVA FIST. I'm like, WTF was that. Then some second follow up attack would pwn me dead. Now granted other people said it was hitting them for 3500+ but I'm like, WTF I'm supposed to be INVULN (I think I have 70%+ RES with toggles & tough). Made me feel very squishy.
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Originally Posted by Auroxis
I'm assuming you took Cardiac, right? If he took Spiritual and the Regen Destiny buff, his HP/Sec should match yours if not surpass it.
Against Energy in the BAF, yeah Elec wins out. But in Lambda the main issue is the S/L damage dealt by Marauder, and Inv wins there hands down. |
Edit: Statment retracted for incorrect numbers
To the Above Comment... 70% Res vs 90% Res is a pretty big difference when your talking huge numbers like that But yeah.. it pretty sick how he basicly 1 shots anyone but a Brute/tanker.
Main: Praetor Imperium Elec/SS/Mu
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Dull Pain gives 20% unenhanceable HP, and 20% enhanceable, so almost 60% total when slotted. On a tank, that's over 1000 hp.
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Originally Posted by Breog
Can Dull Pain give over 900 hps? At first glace looks like it would give max around 600ish *shrug*.
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Ahh thats what Im missing then. The 374.81 is realy x2.
374.81 + 730.87 (Enchanced to 95%) = 1105.68 hps
Now that makes a difference Thanks
Main: Praetor Imperium Elec/SS/Mu
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I'm not selling it short, there's a reason both my Tanker and my Brute(current main) are Elec Armor.|
Originally Posted by Breog
I dont want this thread to devolve into yet another Elec vs In thread LOL.
I just wanted to point out, Always asumeing Inv is the King is total wrong. And as always (I should sig it)... Don't sell Elec Short. |
However if Elec starts outperforming Inv in survivability while also having all the other perks(damage aura, end management, recharge), then the devs would be compelled to "take a look at it". So don't sell Inv short.
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Oh I certainly dont sell Inv short. And I total argee, Should Elec be flat out , outpreforming Inv surivability while keeping its toys something would be out of wack.|
Originally Posted by Auroxis
I'm not selling it short, there's a reason both my Tanker and my Brute(current main) are Elec Armor.
However if Elec starts outperforming Inv in survivability while also having all the other perks(damage aura, end management, recharge), then the devs would be compelled to "take a look at it". So don't sell Inv short. |
The Selling it short comment was directed at others, not you
Main: Praetor Imperium Elec/SS/Mu
"if both builds take the Regen Rebirth"
I didn't consider anything past alpha on this one, so no barrier/rebirth etc. Simply put: I don't have destiny yet. Too much baby aggro to play enough for that, though I'm loving my extra damage so far.
I'm also not 100% sure that electric wouldn't be better with barrier than with rebirth.
But that's an entirely different discussion.
"if Elec starts outperforming Inv in survivability while also having all the other perks"
If electric is outperforming invul, then it's doing so in a very situational way.
The fact that the first two trials happen to involve a lot of that kind of situation, bears no guarantee that such will continue.
All we need is an uber-hydra trial and my tank is... well quite frankly he's [censored]
[edit}: I wouldn't be surprised if upcoming trials played to different strengths a bit]
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I can't speak for anyone else's preferences, but I've been having an absolute blast running the new trials with my favorite DB/WP Stalker.
I tend to play her as a sneaky scrapper on teams, and Lambda is very well suited for that. She also started out with a pretty high-end set build and a VR Alpha, which helped a lot early on. Getting Barrier slotted up also made for easier going.
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I like running my plant/kin on these trials. Seems like there's always someway for me to help out.
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That's quite wrong. Dull Pain and it's cousins, when nicely slotted, can easily get a tanker to the hitpoint cap, right around 3500. With a lot (LOT) of recharge, that can be permanent or darn near.
It is a considerable edge.
That said, I think Electric is flippin' awesome for the new content.
Sadly, I just happen to think fire might be better. Although it's close.