Yes, you need a lot of perception and luck to see him. He is a very fast Spectral Demon with Shadowfall (or something similar) on. He tends to zip around the map anywhere from sea level to nearly the zone ceiling, but tends to like 200-300 yards up.
At any rate you might want to specify which server you are on. You might also ask in your server's badge channel(s) and server forum.
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Also as you search the sky if you see a group of spectrals flying they are likely Caleb's escort, follow them. Also targetcustomnext caleb can be quite useful.
Since you've been able to spawn him successfully, care to share the trick? I've been on multiple teams that were going by what's on paragonwiki and were unable to spawn him after an hour or more of trying. That is one of the badges I just pretend doesn't exist in the game at this point, it's too frustrating trying for it.
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Trick #1: while others keep blasting away at all the spectrals on the ground whether it is day or night, someone else flies around Thorn isle repeatedly using /targetcustomnext caleb over and over again on the off chance that he is already out.|
Originally Posted by Supernumiphone
Since you've been able to spawn him successfully, care to share the trick? I've been on multiple teams that were going by what's on paragonwiki and were unable to spawn him after an hour or more of trying. That is one of the badges I just pretend doesn't exist in the game at this point, it's too frustrating trying for it.
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Trick #2 look for a group of spectrals flying around in the air, chances are they are following caleb.
Trick 3: once you target lock on Caleb activate stealth and set to auto follow him and wait for the team to catch up and start the attack.
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I can't remember what day of the week I did this, whether or not it was soon after a server reset, but this is what I did to get Caleb on my Scrapper.|
Originally Posted by Supernumiphone
Since you've been able to spawn him successfully, care to share the trick? I've been on multiple teams that were going by what's on paragonwiki and were unable to spawn him after an hour or more of trying. That is one of the badges I just pretend doesn't exist in the game at this point, it's too frustrating trying for it.
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1. Find an NPC in the Crimson Cove neighborhood whose name starts with "F" and follow them around while clicking on them.
2. When the NPC says that the Paragon City time is around 5:30am, SS or Ninja Run up to Thorn Isle so it should be 6:00am by the time you get there.
3. Just blitz around the shore of the island, wiping out the Spectral Demons. If you don't have a high-damage, high-recharge character you'll probably need to team with someone else for this.
4. When you get the spawn message, go on a mad dash in the air around the island using the search techniques mentioned above.
When I did this, I was actually able to solo kill enough demons to get Caleb to spawn just as it was starting to get dark. Then I used a /targetcustomnext bind to track him and his posse down. After I finally found him, I stayed invisible and followed his flight path so he wouldn't despawn. I just stayed on him while putting out the call on my server's badge channels, finally getting enough people to bring him down.
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If you have spent quite a bit of time on defeating Spectral Demons, then chances are that you have summoned Caleb. It is just a matter of finding him. I am not sure if he triggers the global monster alert.
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I can verify that Caleb does indeed trigger a global alert.
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Originally Posted by starphoenix
If you have spent quite a bit of time on defeating Spectral Demons, then chances are that you have summoned Caleb. It is just a matter of finding him. I am not sure if he triggers the global monster alert.
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Thanks for the replies everyone and thanks especially for the /targetcustomnext advice, that should be a huge help.
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Doh! Yeah, that might've been helpful. I'm on Justice, and I play almost every weekday morning and randomly on the weekends. If anyone wants to join in, feel free to send me a tell in game (@TimothyX).|
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At any rate you might want to specify which server you are on. You might also ask in your server's badge channel(s) and server forum.
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If you have spent quite a bit of time on defeating Spectral Demons, then chances are that you have summoned Caleb. It is just a matter of finding him. I am not sure if he triggers the global monster alert.
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Originally Posted by Supernumiphone
Since you've been able to spawn him successfully, care to share the trick? I've been on multiple teams that were going by what's on paragonwiki and were unable to spawn him after an hour or more of trying. That is one of the badges I just pretend doesn't exist in the game at this point, it's too frustrating trying for it.
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Thanks again for the helpful advice everyone!
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To add to this, once you find them, you'll want to actually try to get ahead of them without agroing them. Ahead of them because they are simply following a certain distance behind Caleb and will never actually lead you anywhere. And don't agro them because that could throw them offcourse and/or too far behind Caleb to make them useful anymore. |
Originally Posted by Nericus
Also as you search the sky if you see a group of spectrals flying they are likely Caleb's escort, follow them.
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Rush in front of them and you should see Caleb moving fast ahead, but as mentioned, he can get away from you quite easily/quickly, so don't stop moving or you might have difficulty finding him again.
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That said, if you don't see the global monster alert that he's spawned at sunset it's possible that he's already in the zone
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It would be nice if they added him as an in-zone message like they do for Winter Lord as well. That would make it more evident.
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I can confirm from personal observation that Caleb can be spawned without generating the event alert. I saw him spawn on two separate occasions, but no event message (which I've observed at other times) was displayed. Of course these two instances could be bugs, but even if so it still seems that it can happen.|
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
That's what I've found out as well. It seems that many times he ends up spawning naturally from people doing hunt missions or because of people killing the objectives for other reasons and the alert goes unnoticed. Once spawned, Caleb is just out there doing his thing until somebody finds him, or the server/zone resets. In the meantime, people purposely trying to spawn him and watching for an alert will think it's broken.
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(And yes, I have the proper message mapped to my chat on all my characters.
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It's also possible that he was there the whole time. You just didn't happen to notice him until after you defeated a bunch of the objectives.|
Originally Posted by Eric Nelson
I can confirm from personal observation that Caleb can be spawned without generating the event alert. I saw him spawn on two separate occasions, but no event message (which I've observed at other times) was displayed. Of course these two instances could be bugs, but even if so it still seems that it can happen.
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You can't really say for certain that the display message doesn't always work unless you killed him more than once within a single timeframe where your uninterrupted chat shows no alert for Caleb.
I spent some time a while back focusing specifically on testing this event for another thread. I came home from work and spawned him several times in a row (sometimes even solo) and eventually getting various teams together to take him down each time. In all cases (excluding the first time I saw him each night), the alert was displayed correctly as expected.
I'm not saying the alert definitely always works.. just that it's harder to prove. Either way, the point stands that if you spend a decent amount of time taking out objectives, he's most likely out there somewhere, alert or no alert... so just go looking.
On a side note, the easiest way to find him isn't necessarily by having 8 people scatter all over searching like most people do. If you get 4 people going one way around the islands (all at different altitudes), and 4 people going the other way, you can comb the field and find him fairly quickly. Then again, after spawning him so many times and learning the regular routes I saw him on helped quite a bit too. lol
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When I said "I saw him spawn" that was a literal statement -- I SAW him spawn in my toon's view by pure coincidence. I was flying around, not defeating daemons at the time.|
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
It's also possible that he was there the whole time. You just didn't happen to notice him until after you defeated a bunch of the objectives.
You can't really say for certain that the display message doesn't always work unless you killed him more than once within a single timeframe where your uninterrupted chat shows no alert for Caleb. |
And I never claimed it "doesn't always work" (if I made that claim, please show me where I did so) -- I said that he CAN be. My post was in no way an attempt to claim that, and I don't think it reads that way.
Edit to add: I agree with the position that just looking around is the best way to find Caleb, I'm just saying that you can't necessarily rely on the appearance of the zone event message for a number of reasons.
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Considering the extremely short distance required to see him sometimes, you can't say that you saw him spawn for sure. He could have simply come into range at that point. It can look like he's suddenly appearing in that location. I'm not necessarily saying you are wrong, just that you can't use that alone as confirmation. Even if you were in a single location not moving, and you saw him appear in a single location not moving, it could have simply been his stealth effects cycling off for whatever reason.|
Originally Posted by Eric Nelson
When I said "I saw him spawn" that was a literal statement -- I SAW him spawn in my toon's view by pure coincidence. I was flying around, not defeating daemons at the time.
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And I never claimed it "doesn't always work" (if I made that claim, please show me where I did so) -- I said that he CAN be. My post was in no way an attempt to claim that, and I don't think it reads that way.
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Edit to add: I agree with the position that just looking around is the best way to find Caleb, I'm just saying that you can't necessarily rely on the appearance of the zone event message for a number of reasons.
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Well, I made some progress tonight. I killed a hundred Nerva Demons and spawned Caleb and then used the /targetcustomnext Caleb command and, for the first time ever, I found him and targeted him. Unfortunately he's so damn fast that I lost him in the time it took me to type a message to the globals for help. Whatever though, at least I laid eyes on him. Next time I'll put a team together first. And have a full inspiration tray of yellows. I'll try again in the morning.
sorry for any 'necro-posting' but just wanted to say this thread helped me finally get the Hellbane badge on my main badger toon tonight (I had the thread stickied for whenever I'd try for the badge )
Caleb spawned (or at least was spotted) NW of the thorn isle/island...just off the coast in the water. Just for future purposes
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Hi everyone. I've been told that you need decent +perception in order to spot Caleb once he's been spawned. I have no idea if that's the case but I've managed to spawn him five times both alone and on teams and I've never even seen him. Does anyone else out there need the badge too? I'd really like to get a team of players together and go after him sometime this week or this weekend maybe. He's literally the last defeat badge I need. Anyone up for that?