Add ratings to the team search dialog
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Atilla_The_Pun,
Posted on: 2011-02-24 24:11 in Suggestions and Ideas
:X I decline. Ratings are a bad idea because some sets are easily scapegoated when they are doing just fine. Hey, the stormie may be trying to cooperate with the tank and complement him, but the tank may be a stubborn git and not cooperate so everyone blames the stormie.
You are aware ratings are client side only, right?
Um, what do sets have to do with player ratings? I rate for things like quitting teams/TFs without warning, or having a wonderful sense of humor.
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Oh, that should make it much easier, then! Just look them up when populating the list. I was worried that it was in a separate database on the server.
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Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
You are aware ratings are client side only, right?
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I rather like the idea of adding the rating system as another column to the Team Search window. It would be a nice hassle free way to see if someone has a note, whether good or bad, without having to manually check every person I think about inviting to the team. It just helps team leaders make informed decisions on who they invite.
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Your comment doesn't have anything to do with the proposed suggestion, so I'm not sure what you thought you read.
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
:X I decline. Ratings are a bad idea because some sets are easily scapegoated when they are doing just fine. Hey, the stormie may be trying to cooperate with the tank and complement him, but the tank may be a stubborn git and not cooperate so everyone blames the stormie.
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/signed
I never understood why this wasn't included when the rating system was introduced.
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It has everything to do with the suggestion.|
Originally Posted by Mr_Right
I rather like the idea of adding the rating system as another column to the Team Search window. It would be a nice hassle free way to see if someone has a note, whether good or bad, without having to manually check every person I think about inviting to the team. It just helps team leaders make informed decisions on who they invite.
Your comment doesn't have anything to do with the proposed suggestion, so I'm not sure what you thought you read. |
The problem with a rating system is that it will not only be used by good players, it will also be used by idiots.
Therefore, as in the above mentioned example, if the tank is an idiot, just hates stormers (or Energy Blasters, or whatever set even though stormers and tanks can work together just fine, the idiot tank will give the stormer a bad rating.
People, aside from the purely ignorant, will give players bad ratings just to grief them.
No, this is a horrible idea. Ratings are client side and need to stay that way.
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From what I'm reading the OP just wants to be able to see ratings *they've* put on characters from within the search box, not some sort of global system.|
Originally Posted by Atilla_The_Pun
It has everything to do with the suggestion.
The problem with a rating system is that it will not only be used by good players, it will also be used by idiots. Therefore, as in the above mentioned example, if the tank is an idiot, just hates stormers (or Energy Blasters, or whatever set even though stormers and tanks can work together just fine, the idiot tank will give the stormer a bad rating. People, aside from the purely ignorant, will give players bad ratings just to grief them. No, this is a horrible idea. Ratings are client side and need to stay that way. |
So whatever Mr Idiot Tank thinks of a Stormie is irrelevant (unless it's Mr Idiot Tank doing the searching / inviting).
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Originally Posted by Atilla_The_Pun
It has everything to do with the suggestion.
The problem with a rating system is that it will not only be used by good players, it will also be used by idiots. Therefore, as in the above mentioned example, if the tank is an idiot, just hates stormers (or Energy Blasters, or whatever set even though stormers and tanks can work together just fine, the idiot tank will give the stormer a bad rating. People, aside from the purely ignorant, will give players bad ratings just to grief them. No, this is a horrible idea. Ratings are client side and need to stay that way. |
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...and in those sorts of cases, it's probably better to get a low rating from an idiot.
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
So whatever Mr Idiot Tank thinks of a Stormie is irrelevant (unless it's Mr Idiot Tank doing the searching / inviting).
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Exactly. The fact he'll go "Urrgh, that stormie, I want a heelor" and move on is a good thing from the Stormies point of view. Hopefully they'll get a team and leader who know how awesome stormies are.|
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
...and in those sorts of cases, it's probably better to get a low rating from an idiot.
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(I know I'm being slightly unfair to idiot tanks, but it stems from the i4 days when I used to be told not to use Freezing Rain "because it makes things run away from me")
*shudder*
Errr aren't the ratings created by players? Meaning that someone may use a 1 as a good player, and someone may use a 5 as being good?
Unless it's a different type of rating the OP means.
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Given that the ratings and results in the search box would both be populated by the one player local-side whatever ratings system they choose to use is irrelevant as they'd presumably use the same system both to rate people and to view the ratings they've previously set. |
Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Errr aren't the ratings created by players? Meaning that someone may use a 1 as a good player, and someone may use a 5 as being good?
Unless it's a different type of rating the OP means. |
A player would never see others Star Ratings in the search box in any way, only the ones they themselves have previously set.
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I think the suggestion is ok. Practically, it is useful to screen out people that you rated as 1 star, and highlight people with 5 star. I guess you must have spent a lot of time rating people though. |
Originally Posted by Cayenne
I'd like to be able to see the star ratings when I'm searching for teammates, and to be able to sort by rating. I don't know if this would be hard or not, but it would be useful to me.
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Perhaps this will help clear up some of the confusion.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
Errr aren't the ratings created by players? Meaning that someone may use a 1 as a good player, and someone may use a 5 as being good?
Unless it's a different type of rating the OP means. |
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Yes, that's exactly right. A global rating system would be a bad idea, but being able to see my own ratings of people in the search dialog would be incredibly helpful.
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
From what I'm reading the OP just wants to be able to see ratings *they've* put on characters from within the search box, not some sort of global system.
So whatever Mr Idiot Tank thinks of a Stormie is irrelevant (unless it's Mr Idiot Tank doing the searching / inviting). |
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I do a lot of pick-up groups, and I rate the people that stand out in either a good or a bad way.
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Originally Posted by Twilight_Snow
I think the suggestion is ok. Practically, it is useful to screen out people that you rated as 1 star, and highlight people with 5 star. I guess you must have spent a lot of time rating people though.
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Yeeeeaah.... No it doesn't. The OP suggested that the Ratings (as in Global Notes, the client side things you know about) are shown in the Search Tab, so should you rate someone, you can see it there before inviting them (or before skipping over them).|
Originally Posted by Atilla_The_Pun
It has everything to do with the suggestion.
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Apparently you and Storm thought the OP wanted a NEW global rating system (similar to how AE Arcs are rated, where they're seen by everyone and anyone can vote on them, or how the forum rating system used to work way back on the old forums). I don't see how you two got to that conclusion, but it's pretty far off. Your responses do make sense in that context, because it would be a horrible idea, so we agree there.
Now how about the merits of the OP's idea?
I'd liketo be able to see the star ratings when I'm searching for teammates, and to be able to sort by rating. I don't know if this would be hard or not, but it would be useful to me.