Soloing the STF!


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After many failed attempts of the last mission I finally gave up. I'm sort of content with how far I made it, but on the inside. I wish I could have gotten GW too. I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to defeat LR, but still. Woulda been alot more satisfying.
Congrats for getting all the way to the last mission! I agree with others in that I think you should be proud of your progress thus far.



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Congrats for getting all the way to the last mission! I agree with others in that I think you should be proud of your progress thus far.
Yeah I really am happy I guess! I guess stripping my rad/sonic was worth it in the end I highly recommend ill/cold to anyone. You can immediately see the difference you make on High end content, no matter what it is.


Oh and the Green/Oranges method on GW did help, but like DSorrow said, it's more of a damage thing. I can pretty much maneuever around in all sorts of crazy ways to stay alive. But between keeping all of my debuffs up, and keeping decoys up at all times, with no gap. It's just too much to do while trying to do enough damage to kill her.

Time to solo an Apex. Let's go. haha


 

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Hello all that have been following this thread! I decided to post my results of the solo STF.

I took screenies of nearly everything, but ended up falling short of my goal. So I won't bother posting them. I finally defeated Dr. Aeon using a more agressive "just kill him before he kills me" method. I burnt a shivan on him as well =/

So I got to the last mission, and I decided to play around with Confusing the AV's. I was able to get BS and GW to team up on Scirroco, and they eventually killed him. Me being a controller, I wasn't able to perma-confuse them so I could only use this method for one AV.
I tried getting mako to help so that I could maybe use, Mako, BS, and Scirroco to kill GW. But mako seems nearly impossible to confuse, I couldn't do it, even with Vanguard Medal.

After using this method to defeat Scirroco I pulled Mako and after many failed attempts I got lucky and only he came. He was tricky because he has really high defense, and even with Sleet and Infridgate always on him, Benumb missed often. So that fight took alot longer than expected and I did die a few times.

Next I pulled BS, BS has the highest DPS out of all of them as far as I could tell. (I just went by how much damage they dealt to each other when they were confused)
BS was pretty easy. But he was possibly the scariest.... =P

On to Ghost Widow. Ghost Widow is different than the others because all pets apart from Decoys are useless on her. So I was limited to only using Decoys. To make a long story short I just didn't have the DPS to kill her. I tried using shivans but they died relatively fast and she just healed off of them anyway.

After many failed attempts of the last mission I finally gave up. I'm sort of content with how far I made it, but on the inside. I wish I could have gotten GW too. I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to defeat LR, but still. Woulda been alot more satisfying.

Welp, that about does it for this challenge. I am however interested in doing a duo STF. I feel like 2 ill/cold's or ill/rad, or ill/ anything really could do it with relative ease. If we alternated Decoys instead of casting them at the exact same time. WE would always have a "tank" out and would never take any damage. The hardest part of this TF was the gap you get while re-summoning Decoys. I used the temp Kinetic Dampener? during re-casting so that I could avoid some of the aggro i got between castings.

Thanks all for following this thread, was a lot of fun! Thanks for all the support!
Have you thought of upping your difficulty to +3/+4? That way you might be able to get a boss level spider like a Toxic over to the AVs and see if they can work the AVs down. The sig AVs are locked to 54 anyhow. Just a random thought. Not sure about what you'd do with LR and his towers though.


 

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Doh! that actually is a great idea. UGH i wish i wouldnt have quit


 

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I would try out the patrons all together at level 54 in AE and work on a strategy there. Maybe you can confuse BS into defeating GW if you're lucky. I'd try LR in AE as well. My Ill/rad couldn't beat him once his pets dropped due to PA agroing randomly.


 

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Yeah if I try it again, I'll definitely figure out how I'm going to do it in AE.

BS could easily solo GW IF i could use benumb without aggroing them. I think if i used Benumb right after Purples went back up. that'd be 30 out of the 50 seconds of GW being at less regen. So she'd only get 20 seconds of full regen. Idk just a thought but I think Benumb would contribute greatly to him soloing her.


 

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I imagine you'd have to confuse GW first, so she damages BS. Then confuse BS so he attacks GW. I would try and avoid benumb because out will aggro her to you.


 

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Yeah Benumb ended up with a Gloom to the face. Every time. And as for getting BS to attack GW. Even with the massive amount of damage he does. She regenerated it all back by the time he could attack again.


 

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it might be possible to duo the STF if you had a perma mind dom with you

perma mind dom with single target confuse can perma confuse AVs through the purple triangles, which is how poeple solo the LRSF

me and a friend were thinking of duoing the STF because my friend uses a perma mind dom and i use an ill/cold/ice troller, the only problem with that is both of our toons are full villain, and i wouldnt blame my friend for not changing off villain because the frenzy power for villains is awesome for doms, insta filling the domination bar is extremely helpful to get back into the fight with perma dom if you die


 

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Silly idea, and, I realize that this is cheesy... But, what about pulling GW to the ship? Would the big guns assist in her demise?


 

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Yeah Benumb ended up with a Gloom to the face. Every time. And as for getting BS to attack GW. Even with the massive amount of damage he does. She regenerated it all back by the time he could attack again.


 

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Silly idea, and, I realize that this is cheesy... But, what about pulling GW to the ship? Would the big guns assist in her demise?
i doubt it a lot, unless you had it all set to lvl 54, then they *might* dent her a little, but boss ranked stuff will pale in comparison to AV, even most EBs cant out dmg an AV regen


 

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Pulling to the ship would be REALLY hard. Sometimes pulling her too far aggros the others for some reason. And she would constantly hit me with Gloom. And Gloom is unfair. :P


 

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Pulling to the ship would be REALLY hard. Sometimes pulling her too far aggros the others for some reason. And she would constantly hit me with Gloom. And Gloom is unfair. :P
Pulling to the ship probably wouldn't work well since the mobs there can't stand up to the sig AVs long enough. Perhaps if you were able to get the entire ship going on the AV but usually only a few Longbow aggro on the AV at a time, enough to just get tumbled like dominoes (at 50). You would need a whole clumped bunch of 54 Wardens to bring down one of the signature AVs. Perhaps a mind controller might be able to sleep/confuse an AV enough to slow them down but I really doubt it.

Duoing the STF has been done before...

I think the only way you could finish LR is to cheat and get him stuck along the back wall, and then you could finish off the towers and then LR.


 

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I think the only way you could finish LR is to cheat and get him stuck along the back wall, and then you could finish off the towers and then LR.
This is how I did it the first time I duo'd this with a friend--it took about an hour to get him to that point, though. If all else fails, you might give this a try.


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I also wanted to say I think it's pretty neat you're giving a solo STF a try! I did my last one on an ill/cold also, and had a great time. Hope the whole experience, whether you win or not, is fun.


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I think the only way you could finish LR is to cheat and get him stuck along the back wall, and then you could finish off the towers and then LR.
Has anyone ever tried to confuse the towers? There are two real possibilities:

1) The towers may lack the PToD, so a relatively low-magnitude confuse would turn off Lord Recluse's buffs.

2) The really insane option. I'm not sure how the tower buffs work. It's possible that a confused tower might turn and buff you. This could potentially trivialise the encounter by capping almost all of your stats.

Now, this has probably been tested before. Does anyone know?


 

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Not that it helps in this case you can cage a tower and turn it off.


 

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Has anyone ever tried to confuse the towers? There are two real possibilities:

1) The towers may lack the PToD, so a relatively low-magnitude confuse would turn off Lord Recluse's buffs.

2) The really insane option. I'm not sure how the tower buffs work. It's possible that a confused tower might turn and buff you. This could potentially trivialise the encounter by capping almost all of your stats.

Now, this has probably been tested before. Does anyone know?
I've tried. Confusing the Towers doesn't seem to do anything.


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I've tried. Confusing the Towers doesn't seem to do anything.
I bet they have insane Confuse Resistance and Protection just so that you can't get the buffs to yourself.


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I'd work on your build a bit before trying this again.

First thing, cap range def; second, get more damage in your ST attacks - and get aid self.

Trolls with procs and dam bonuses can actually damage comparable to corruptors (without scourge though); capping range def means you can actually hold 'some' AV aggro, particularly with the high amount of resist that a /cold gets. I constantly dodge hits from AV's and survive their aggro for non-trivial lengths of time. Only LR aggro ever becomes a real problem - and I've often survived that too between PA casts. Having Aid-self, with an int reducer in it, should make it nigh impossible for any AV other than LR to kill you if you remain careful.

You can get to good damage, perma-PA (perma-Heatloss just comes in the bargain) and capped ranged def with the alpha slotted on Spiritual rare or above. It's still 'expensive' but then it's not like your current build is cheap either.


In my 'personal' opinion, I consider Ill/Cold's to be the most powerful build on CoH - so I think if any toon can solo STF, it would be an Ill/Cold; just needs to be built well


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