Praetoria...Incomplete Story Arc?

Ok...some spoilers may follow so be warned that I'm talking about the Praetor Sinclair contact missions.

Now then...this may shock some, but I have yet to take a toon completely through Praetoria from start to finish. The reasons are varied and quite a few, but they include: General Altitis, other games taking more of my playtime, not wanting to team with my SG on my Praetorian toons so I don't miss content etc.

The most important toon I have in Praetoria right now is my DP/Traps corruptor Grim Hound. I have a concept of him as an arrogant Loyalist who changes sides late in his Praetorian career.

He's now level 16. And I just started the Praetor Sinclair arc dealing with the Phoenix Squad I believe it is called. I noticed that I started the arc at 15 and leveled to 16 in the first mission. After that...each mission was level 15. I actually turned off XP so I wouldn't be in danger of outleveling the storyline...but after the Gorgon battle, the arc seems to just stop. Sinclair tells me our business is finished but I still have clues in my clue list from the arc and a book icon next to Sinclair's name even though he's in the inactive contact tab.

Is that all there is to Sinclair as a contact? I don't think I got every member of the squad that went rogue and nothing seemed resolved at the end. Also...no souvenir for the arc in my list either. I was actually hoping that arc would turn out to a side switching one so I could take my guy to Resistance for the last 4 levels of Praetoria.

Same thing happened to me. I just assumed I had outleveled the contact when I hit 16. I was really disappointed though, I was really enjoying the arc and wanted to see it through to the end.

I was really sad that Sinclair told me he had no more missions. I really wish there could be a way to flashback and repeat old Praetorian arcs for Praetorian characters.

A lot of characters can't solo through the content so have to team doing other people's missions, then outlevel their own missions, and can't go back. I avoided Praetoria during 2XXP for that very reason. Didn't want to outlevel it before I finished stuff.

Yeah, ran into this problem too.

All the horrible, boring arcs in Primal won't let me drop them at all, despite the fact I may well be level 50 with a level 35 arc still active. Now, when it gets to an arc I would happily crank the difficulty up a notch or two for to keep it even level...it doesn't let me.

Major fail. I shouldn't have to plan out each arc using the wiki just so I can actually finish stories. Sure, I can do that and use turn off Exp...And I'm sure I'm going to turn myself into instant flamebait for people calling me 'lazy' for this too...but I shouldn't have to go to that level of planning. For an STF or LRSF, sure. But not regular arcs that I already enjoy and just want to finish!

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Well I'm glad I'm not the only one to hit this problem. Although it is kinda sad that the devs haven't addressed this. It's one thing to outlevel an arc when you're 7 levels past it, but I think the game should be intelligent enough to compensate when you're in the middle of an arc and go up by one level past its max.

At the very least, it should warn you when starting a new arc that you are close to its level cap. Ideally, the arc should simply shift it's level up to match yours as long as you're not a large number of levels past it.

Nothing ticks me off quite as much as leveling past content that I haven't seen yet while in the middle of that content. And in Praetoria, even more so since you can't flashback to it.

In theory there should be two more missions after the one with Gorgon... at least Paragon Wiki says so.
One against Cockatrice and a "moral"-mish with Belladonna Vetrano.

@Redcap

Interesting, I'm always faced with a gap of arcless content between level 13 and level 16 in Praetoria. What're you people doing to outlevel these?

Yeah, this is an annoying problem.

Several of the contacts in Praetoria literally cut-off mid-stream if you outlevel them.

Sinclair, as listed on the ParagonWiki, caps out at 15, which matches where he cut you off.

It needs to be worked on. Most normal contacts will continue giving you story-arc missions even if you outlevel them.

Yup, I always stop my XP at 9, 14 and 19 so I don't outlevel any of the contacts in Praetoria. This way I can do full resistance/loyalist arcs or if I'm so inclined, both sides at the same time.

Praetorian "morality" missions are defined as their own arcs, separate from each contact's "main" arc, given out after that is finished. If you outlevel the contact during his main arc, the you will never get the morality arc. Most contacts do a good job of wrapping their stories up during their main arc, with the morality arc tacked on as additional closure, but apparently some don't.

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I just think that the Praetoria level range is too short for this sort of thing to happen. 1 - 20 whizzes by.

Especially when you add in Patrol XP. I'm wondering if this should be disabled for Praetoria by default.

This is just another half-finished fix. The Devs let us drop missions, but not active story arcs. Either let us drop the entire arc or let us complete it at a respectable level.

Firstly, apologies for replying to such an old thread but it was the newest one I could find on this problem with the search.

Is there any chance at all that the Praetorian arcs will be fixed to stop this happening and allow us to complete them all the way through the morality choices when we outlevel the contact? It seems ridiculous that the Primal story arcs are arranged so that you HAVE to finish them once started but that these arcs, and especially the morality missions, are damn near impossible to NOT outlevel without turning off xp for several missions every 5 levels or so. My Loyalist Power arc PPD trooper just got locked out of Sinclair's morality mission due to levelling from the xp I got when I reported back to him from the previous mission. So no moral choice and now little chance of getting the moral choice badge, as well as the annoyance of an unfinished story arc. I don't want to have to re-start characters every time I forget to turn off xp before talking to a contact.

Seriously, next to the still-broken "Stop X from escaping" missions this is the most irritating thing in the game at the moment for me and really spoils the fun of what I think are some of the best arcs in the game.

I still have yet to outlevel a Praetorian contact.

I smell zombies...but this is one reason I don't play int hat part of the game.

Still waiting for those last story line missions to have their max level req removed so they can be played at the end of the story line.

I've managed to outlevel contacts while stealthing missions. How Scythus can do what he does is beyond me. Exceptional amount of deaths (and debt)? Or perhaps this is just a clever way to say he doesn't play Praetoria.