Peacebringers and Warshades and Numbers, Oh MY!

Since the major difference in damage numbers comes from build up vs mires, wouldn't the solution involve a change to the PB damage buff?

Peacebringer build up could be swapped for a clone of super strength's rage. It would give PB's a perma build up power like Warshades. It would follow the theme of PB's having self buffs and carry the damage to other forms like the WS mires. I don't think this would break the cottage rule since both powers are a "build up". Photon seeker recharge/dmg would need to be altered to match Warshade pet dps. A few other powers might need to be tweaked but I think these changes would close the dps gap.

The mitigation discrepency is due to one simple fact: Eclipse is a unique power. It is a permable crashless "tier 9", click power that carries over into forms, that also recovers end on activation.

VS.

Lightform: Unstoppable clone, non-permable, severe crash (hp+end) "tier 9" click power that does NOT carry over into forms.

Here is an area where I think WSes might see a nerf coming as opposed to PBs getting a buff, unfortunately, as this power is significantly better than any other tier 9 defensive power (if only because it's permable) regardless of AT.

Eclipse is also the tier 9 that requires you to put yourself in a dangerous situation before you can activate it, even if only briefly. It is the only tier 9 I can think of that is based on body count and is really pathetic against things like AV's. It also offers no mez protection, which lightform does. It does not provide +recovery like most tier 9's and lightform, but rather a one time endurance gain, which is a lot less valuable. Eclipse is balanced.

Edit: I really don't think Lightform is the problem or even has a problem, other than the fact that it should carry over to forms as well. PB's have some other stuff that helps them survive which Warshades don't, as in +hp and better healing.

Well...now that we have numbers and "proof" of the discrepancies, how do they go about fixing them? Will they go about fixing them? I mean they've pretty much maintained the status quo for the past 7 years...they can also run/find these numbers way better than we can and haven't done anything so far.

Smiling Joe, did you ever get hold of Black Scorpion? Any kind of response?

Me, to put Kheldians in line with both each other and VEATS, I would:

1) Give Dwarf Form Glinting Eye/Ebon Eye (epic tanks get Laser Eyes, so should Kheldians)

2) Give Nova Form its own 100% Build-up, shared cooldown with Human form 80% Build-up/Sunless Mire so you can't stack both (blasters get 100% build-up)

3) Give each Human Form shields 1 piece of mez protection, sleep, hold, stun (in line with VEATs and Sonic/FF defenders/corruptors)

4) Upfront 40% of the 140% potential damage bonus from Cosmic Balance/Dark Sustenance inherent (ala Domination/Invincibility-Unyielding episode), letting Human Form Kheldians base dmg go from 0.8 modifier to VEATs 1.0 (dmg buff solo)

5) Get rid of Dwarf form 20% damage bonus (dmg unchanged solo)

6) Keep the Nova form 40% damage bonus (dmg buff solo)

7) Cut the inherent team potential damage bonus in half, from 20% to 10% per respective AT teammate, from 140% max to 70% + 40% max if you're teaming with 7 tanks/blasters (dmg nerf in ideal 8-man teams, dmg nerf to Dwarf in ideal 8-man teams).

Changes, of course, apply to BOTH Peacebringer and Warshades, the only ATs in the game left behind by the circle of buffs that have been sprouting since ED.