Who is Lord Nemesis??


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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I have been reading many of the stories in my mission and there is always the same thing poping up. "Nemesis". Is like a story meme they decide to use when they are out of new ideas to bind all the pieces together but you never get to fit it in.

This is all I know:

Nemesis starts the rikti invasion to preaper the world technology to fight back the shivas invasion.

Rikti are human evolve by Nemesis.

Everything is a Nemesis Plot.

The new incarnate arc just tell you that Mender Silos is lord Nemesis without much explaining...(this piss me off because it fit with the secret letter you find in the oroboros arcs).


So the Question is: Who is lord nemesis? And what clues have you find in the game to figure out this never ending Nemesis plot?


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Nemesis doesn't exist. It's just a figment of your imagination.








*This post may or may not be a Nemesis plot.


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*waves hand

This isn't thread you're looking for...


 

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Lord Nemesis

No dilemmas rise.



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SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!


SPOILER ALERT!!!!



Lord Nemesis is an age-old automaton maker, starting off with toys, and working his way up to mechanical war-machines. He has even, in recent years, been able to build robotic duplicates of heroes and villains. With that technology in hand, he basically created robotic copies of heroes like Statesman and Positron, and sent them to attack the Rikti homeworld. When the Rikti traced the origins of these attacks, Nemesis had done it in such a way that the Rikti would think that Prime Earth (the game world) were the ones responsible for the unwarranted attacks on their population. This led them to retaliate against Prime Earth, who thought that THEY were the ones attacked without warrant. Many millions (billions?) of deaths later, the war that Nemesis had started was over.


Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus

 

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wiki tells us some of his past...as for his furure we don't know....cause its in the future.....


 

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Originally Posted by Yorukira View Post
Rikti are human evolve by Nemesis.
Not quite, the Rikti were actually mutated by an alien species from their home dimension.

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So the Question is: Who is lord nemesis? And what clues have you find in the game to figure out this never ending Nemesis plot?
To answer the first question Nemesis' original name was Gerhardt Eisenstadt. If you want to try and fight against him in-game then Maxwell Christopher's arc deals with trying to stop him. Of course given that he then pops up in the various RWZ arcs and the Khan TF it's unlikely you succeeded.

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Originally Posted by Yorukira View Post
When to paragon wiki to look for info, but in there don't say anything about the relation of Mender Silos & Nemesis or how he started the Rikti War.

Paragon wiki is outdated on the Nemesis stories
Well there's a simple solution to that . The wiki is updated by various players and tends to reflect the different interests that they have. If you feel that the article on Nemesis is missing vital information from the game the best solution is to put it in yourself.


 

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Originally Posted by Yorukira View Post
I have been reading many of the stories in my mission and there is always the same thing poping up. "Nemesis". Is like a story meme they decide to use when they are out of new ideas to bind all the pieces together but you never get to fit it in.
Nemesis is two things: #1 The Nemesis Army, a group of soldiers who follow Lord Nemesis, and the robots/automatons that Lord Nemesis builds.

Lord Nemesis is a master of deception, most of the story arcs where you try to fight him, you spend most of the time accomplishing goals for him because he has tricked you. As indicated by Aett and Others, there are times where you get to fight him directly (in theory) but since he always comes back it doesn't look like we ever get to be successful.

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This is all I know:

Nemesis starts the rikti invasion to preaper the world technology to fight back the shivas invasion.

Rikti are human evolve by Nemesis.

Everything is a Nemesis Plot.
As explained the Rikti are human from an alternate universe. In their universe earth was invaded by aliens who mutated them. Lord Nemesis fooled them into attacking the prime earth, leading to the first and second rikti wars.

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The new incarnate arc just tell you that Mender Silos is lord Nemesis without much explaining...(this piss me off because it fit with the secret letter you find in the oroboros arcs).
Mender Silos is an anagram for Lord Nemesis as demonstrated here:
Mender Silos
Lo Mender Sis
Lor Mende Sis
Lord Mene Sis
Lord Ne me Sis

This has all along fueled speculation that the letter writer is a future, past, or alternate universe version of Lord Nemesis. I'm not sure that anything in the Incarnate arc solves the argument 100%.

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So the Question is: Who is lord nemesis? And what clues have you find in the game to figure out this never ending Nemesis plot?
Most of what you learn about Lord Nemesis is intentionally confusing. He is usually described as the most cunning and strategic enemy in the game.

To expand on what others have said already:
He conquered the US for a short time with an army of machines and a bunch of bombs placed in important cities.

He is just a brain kept alive inside his armor, but has been stealing information and technology from Crey's Revenant Hero project. There was debate over this was because his original brain was getting too old and dying and he needed a new one, or because he was hoping for a new body.

He has attempted mind control/psionics as a way of getting a new body.

Mender Silos may or may not be "a" Lord Nemesis.

The Oroboros Letter writer may or may not be the same, or a different Lord Nemesis.

Lord Nemesis has on multiple occasions tricked people into attacking his own troops when it serves his purposes.

Lord Nemesis doesn't have a fully functioning portal of his own, but he at least has an unreliable one that lets him get to alternate universes. He does raid portal corp from time to time and he has access to the Shadow Shard, but he doesn't have access to Rikti Earth anymore.

Lots of Nemesis stories are found from contacts in Brickstown, Founders Follies, the Rikti Warzone, Shadow Shard, and Peregrine Island.

All of the above may be false due to Lord Nemesis planting fake information (IE anything above could just be a Nemesis Plot).

If you have other specific questions we can try to help.


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Originally Posted by Yorukira View Post
I'm talking about the in game story of nemesis.

When to paragon wiki to look for info, but in there don't say anything about the relation of Mender Silos & Nemesis or how he started the Rikti War.

Paragon wiki is outdated on the Nemesis stories
Dark Watcher's arc tells the story and it's all in the wiki. In fact, the very first clue in the first mission pretty well lays out how he started the Rikti war.

What I know about Mender Silos I got from Ramiel. After you finish the arc one of the many questions you can ask him is "Who is Mender Silos?" and he confesses that Silos is indeed Nemesis. Ramiel also warns you not to judge him from his past because people change (or something to that affect). But you are right, we don't really know anything about the relationship between the current Nemesis and Silos if any.


 

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Mender Silos is an anagram for Lord Nemesis as demonstrated here:
Mender Silos
Lo Mender Sis
Lor Mende Sis
Lord Mene Sis
Lord Ne me Sis

This has all along fueled speculation that the letter writer is a future, past, or alternate universe version of Lord Nemesis. I'm not sure that anything in the Incarnate arc solves the argument 100%.
Actually, if you finish the incarnate arc and start asking Ramiel questions, he says flat out that yes, Mender Silos was Nemesis once.


 

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After researching, I think I have an answer to what the Coming Storm might be... Though it's all speculation...

***Major Spoiler Warning***




Hro'Dtohz claims that through his failure in the first two Rikti wars, and to save himself the embarrassment of revealing the truth about how the first two wars started to his troops and homeworld, he would rather "bring enough troops across to wipe out everything on this Earth: he is going to bring over the entire Rikti military from the Homeworld" as quoted from the Wiki. Well, after researching somemore... Mender Lazarus accidentally refers to the Coming Storm as an Invasion, before correcting himself.

But the single most important link...

"Mender Silos mentions that his past self was somehow involved in the end of the world, which spiraled into the end of the entire Universe."

Mender Silos WAS Lord Nemesis. Lord Nemesis started the Rikti Wars. Because of Lord Nemesis, Hro'Dtohz wants to wipe out Earth. The Coming Storm could very well be the final Rikti Invasion.

Just a thought...


 

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Nemesis does most of his best plotting sitting on the can.


 

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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios View Post
Nemesis does most of his best plotting sitting on the can.
Nemesis no longer has a need for the can!


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Originally Posted by runt9 View Post
After researching, I think I have an answer to what the Coming Storm might be... Though it's all speculation...

***Major Spoiler Warning***




Hro'Dtohz claims that through his failure in the first two Rikti wars, and to save himself the embarrassment of revealing the truth about how the first two wars started to his troops and homeworld, he would rather "bring enough troops across to wipe out everything on this Earth: he is going to bring over the entire Rikti military from the Homeworld" as quoted from the Wiki. Well, after researching somemore... Mender Lazarus accidentally refers to the Coming Storm as an Invasion, before correcting himself.

But the single most important link...

"Mender Silos mentions that his past self was somehow involved in the end of the world, which spiraled into the end of the entire Universe."

Mender Silos WAS Lord Nemesis. Lord Nemesis started the Rikti Wars. Because of Lord Nemesis, Hro'Dtohz wants to wipe out Earth. The Coming Storm could very well be the final Rikti Invasion.

Just a thought...
Much of what we learn about the Coming Storm (tm)* indicates that it's a genuine alien (not an alternate earth) invasion and that the shivan meteorites are at least a part of it. This doesn't rule out Nemesis' involvement, but Hro'Dtohz is unlikely to be able to pull off a full blown invasion after the events of the various RWZ arcs.

*Coming Storm is a trademark of Ouroborus, Inc.


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Nemesis no longer has a need for the can!
Lord Nemesis IS the Can.

And Yes I want a swing at Broomsti...I mean the Statesman piñata!


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Originally Posted by Lanterns Ghost View Post
Lord Nemesis IS the Can.

And Yes I want a swing at Broomsti...I mean the Statesman piñata!
You can either post the costume file you want used for Statesman pinata to the forums.

Or you can make an AE arc with a boss using your coustume of choice and let me know the storyarc number.

Or we can work out a time for me to pop onto your server and I'll demorecord you.

There's a few problems I haven't worked out with Huge models and wings but I have the art assests and demo files ready to go for female and male models. I'm more then willing to help you with any of the steps needed to get your costume in my hands.


 

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I am Spartacus!

::looks around::



::creeps away::


 

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We no now since the Incarnate Story Arc Came out, that Mender Silos is the Future Lord Nemesis, rearrange the letters of Mender Silos and you get Lord Nemesis, When you talk to Mender Ramiel in Ourobos he will tell you if you ask Who is Mender Silos he will tell you it's Nemeisis.

Also you got your info wrong about the Rikti being made by nemesis that hasn't gotten Conform yet, in fact we don't who did change the humans of the Rikti Dimension into what they are today, what we do no is The Rikti see them as gods.


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