VEATs and You


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Hello, forums. It's been a while.

My search-fu may have not been good enough, but I could not find an existing answer to this question, so here goes:

As all epic archetypes are supposed to "unlock" at 20 now instead of 50, should I find it strange that my 26 stalker did not receive the appropriate message? Or do red-side archetypes that start life in Praetoria ignore that unlock?


 

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Originally Posted by Furora View Post
Hello, forums. It's been a while.

My search-fu may have not been good enough, but I could not find an existing answer to this question, so here goes:

As all epic archetypes are supposed to "unlock" at 20 now instead of 50, should I find it strange that my 26 stalker did not receive the appropriate message? Or do red-side archetypes that start life in Praetoria ignore that unlock?
I thought I read in the GR Beta that Praetorians indeed don't unlock EATs. But Paragonwiki seems to contradict me.

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/EAT


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I already have VEATs unlocked so I can't test this myself. They do indeed unlock at level 20 and I believe you need to be from primal earth to unlocked them. Simple way to find out is since your toon was created in Prea, can you make a VEAT? If you can't then you need to roll a villain out in primal earth and get that toon to 20.


 

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Originally Posted by TrueMetal View Post
I thought I read in the GR Beta that Praetorians indeed don't unlock EATs.
That's what I recall from Beta too, people came to the conclusion that the unlock occurred at the level ding of 20 and was dependent on the characters faction at that point, so side switching and Praetorians are out of luck. Part of the confusion could be that people still get the you have unlock EATs text, even if they've already unlocked EATs, I even got it on my Praetorian characters, and those who are inclined to test and post to Wiki are more likely to be the established players who already had the EATs unlocked.


 

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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
I already have VEATs unlocked so I can't test this myself. They do indeed unlock at level 20 and I believe you need to be from primal earth to unlocked them. Simple way to find out is since your toon was created in Prea, can you make a VEAT? If you can't then you need to roll a villain out in primal earth and get that toon to 20.
I cannot, which is why I started this; on the other hand, I also wasn't sure if I wasn't *supposed* to, or if something wasn't right. But everyone seems to have cleared that up, so thanks.


 

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That's what I recall from Beta too, people came to the conclusion that the unlock occurred at the level ding of 20 and was dependent on the characters faction at that point, so side switching and Praetorians are out of luck. Part of the confusion could be that people still get the you have unlock EATs text, even if they've already unlocked EATs, I even got it on my Praetorian characters, and those who are inclined to test and post to Wiki are more likely to be the established players who already had the EATs unlocked.
This could be hope for PEATS! \o/ *crosses fingers for awesome Syndicate goodness*


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This could be hope for PEATS! \o/ *crosses fingers for awesome Syndicate goodness*
Wouldn't they badically be Widows with DB or BS instead of Claws, and no Mask?

But, yeah. PEATs could be really awesome, and PPD (Justicar/TEST) and Syndicate (Sword Master/Suit) look like two easy factions to base off.


 

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If they give Praetorians a Devouring Earth Epic, as some people suggest, would that make it PEAT Moss?


 

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Originally Posted by AnElfCalledMack View Post
Wouldn't they badically be Widows with DB or BS instead of Claws, and no Mask?

But, yeah. PEATs could be really awesome, and PPD (Justicar/TEST) and Syndicate (Sword Master/Suit) look like two easy factions to base off.
Well, with CoH, I figure a Syndicate EAT is my only chance at what could be an awesome Dual Pistols/Martial Arts/Defense Secondary (so yes, akin to VEATS).

If it doesn't happen then, not likely to ever happen.


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If they give Praetorians a Devouring Earth Epic, as some people suggest, would that make it PEAT Moss?
Thanks for the monitor cleaning which occurred shortly after I took a drink of coffee then read this post.


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If they give Praetorians a Devouring Earth Epic, as some people suggest, would that make it PEAT Moss?
PEAT Epic Epic Cool Pepper - Tongue Twister EAT for you there


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Originally Posted by AnElfCalledMack View Post
Wouldn't they badically be Widows with DB or BS instead of Claws, and no Mask?

But, yeah. PEATs could be really awesome, and PPD (Justicar/TEST) and Syndicate (Sword Master/Suit) look like two easy factions to base off.
I think its more likely that the PEAT options would be PPD and Resistance. I've often made suggestions during the I19 beta conversations that the PPD powerset is one I would love to get my hands on, and a new ranged weapon set that the Resistance bosses use would also be a welcome addition. The Syndicate seem to use standard PC primary sets, so they wouldnt add anything new to the game.


 

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I think its more likely that the PEAT options would be PPD and Resistance. I've often made suggestions during the I19 beta conversations that the PPD powerset is one I would love to get my hands on, and a new ranged weapon set that the Resistance bosses use would also be a welcome addition. The Syndicate seem to use standard PC primary sets, so they wouldnt add anything new to the game.
Or maybe one based on the Resistance heavy gun dudes--high-recharge, high-damage, some smallish inherent AoE, like a walking artillery battery for the primary.

If the devs were interested in a Resistance EAT, though, I think they'd have to make up a defensive secondary, since there doesn't seem to be one that the critters actually use. Maybe something akin to Willpower secondary but with glaring differences (e.g., no fast healing/quick recovery but keep the high pain tolerance with something like a 12.5% hp buff).


 

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Tongue Twister EAT for you there
I hope they include these so I can tweat the progress of my TWEAT!


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If the devs were interested in a Resistance EAT, though, I think they'd have to make up a defensive secondary, since there doesn't seem to be one that the critters actually use.
Aside from their crazy cloaking and targeting drone?


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Originally Posted by Furora View Post
As all epic archetypes are supposed to "unlock" at 20 now instead of 50, should I find it strange that my 26 stalker did not receive the appropriate message? Or do red-side archetypes that start life in Praetoria ignore that unlock?
I made a Praetorian and at 20 I got the "Epic Archetypes unlocked" message.

Prior to this I had unlocked the VEATS but not the hero-side.


 

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I made a Praetorian and at 20 I got the "Epic Archetypes unlocked" message.

Prior to this I had unlocked the VEATS but not the hero-side.
That's the bug. It says you unlocked something but you don't.


 

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Originally Posted by Frost View Post
That's the bug. It says you unlocked something but you don't.
Last time I unlocked VEATs on my Widow. Got a good chuckle out of me.