Why no Incarnate Slot Stuff in MA?

I didn't till just now realize that you can get a Gr'ai Matter incarnate component every 18 hours with Vanguard merits. This component is equal to 4 incarnate shards and is purchasable with 150 Vanguard Merits.

This makes me wonder why something similar is not doable with MA tickets. I know, I know people will say "but WN if you make it so you can get incarnate stuff in MA it will get abused!". In my opinion, no more or less so than Vanguard Merits if you put the same restrictions of a time limit to how often you can turn them in and make the cost high enough. Honestly, I think 18 hours is a bit short and would not mind seeing 48 hours or even 72.

OK, let me have it.....


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I think this would be a great idea! Add an incarnate salvage (maybe the rularuu or hami one) to the ticket vendor, with a timed lockout to limit farmability. It would give people a reason to play MA missions while still working towards I19 goals.

I'd kind of like to see incarnate shards drop in MA also, but there would need to be some way to prevent them being farmed. Though, arguably you can farm shards in existing canon content, so maybe that isn't as big a deal.

They are available in MA. So are purples and most any other things that's available in regular play.

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During the Beta I kept thinking to myself, "Self, wouldn't it be very cool if you could buy incarnate shards with tickets?" But it'll never happen, since it would encourage farming MA.

But, you know, putting a timer on it seems like a great idea. It ensures you can't get shards *faster* than doing dev content, but still at least makes it possible.

Great idea!

Back in the days of speculation about the then-upcoming i19, I put forth the idea that they could/should find some way to wiggle in some AE in there to get some players to take a look at the whole AE experience. This was especially regarding the fact they're saying that more stuff will be added every issue from now on.

Considering how quickly you can farm for tickets - the usual exploiting issues aside even! I'm not even talking things like meow and monkeys - I dunno if buying a shard with them is the best idea, it sounds too easy. I seem to recall having read someone on the market forums saying he can max out ticket count in like ten minutes with a decent farm.

Disgree why, because people alway find a way to Expliot AE with Tickets and Xp, There are still Ticket farming and Suck. I am Sure they don't want us to Miss us Ma for incarnate, they seem they want us to take our time gathering these goodies for the incarnate Slot.

I see nothing wrong with this idea and have wondered about it myself. Let's just leave RP out of this .. Tickets are another form of currency in game just like INF and Vanguard Merits.

Personally I have some characters with more than 1000 reward merits and when I discovered i could BUY a Gr'ai Matter with my Vanguard Merits my first thought was "Why can't I buy something with the regular ones?" Put the same time limit of 18 hours on it and limit it to one type and it wouldn't be any different than what we have now at the Vanguard base.

I wouldn't mind being able to somehow buy Incarnate components through AE tickets, but it's fairly obvious that it it would be easily exploited given the present farming environment on the AE system. As such, it just doesn't make sense from the dev's perspective to allow it.

People can argue that players are farming TFs and such for shards at present, but that's sort of a false dichotomy. Those players are actually playing TFs - content which has a certain degree of dev-created balance in the reward/risk area. AE exploits do not have that balance, and it certainly isn't dev-created or monitored. Sure you can get a TF together with high-end, min-maxed teams geared toward sweeping and steamrolling through TFs - but that's different from being in a mission where the risks are innately neglible regardless of skill or player build.

And yeah, as someone already pointed out, you can get shards in AE - you just have to play DCs with normal rewards. *shrug* I'd like it to happen, but I can't see that the devs would open up that option given the exploit environment evident in the MA.

Well I think it's a good idea. They'd have to cost a ton of tickets for sure.

Yeah people exploit AE but it still takes X number of tickets to buy the item. As long as the reward was on par with the length of a ship raid then what's the big deal. If it takes you an hour to do a ship raid or an hour to farm 9999 tickets. As long as they both take the same length of time where's the harm.

You also can't SELL the incarnate components. So there would be little to no reason to exploit tickets for them.

A ship raid takes an hour or so. I usually walk away with 700+ merits. Enough for several Gr'ai maters.

God forbid we do something to get people into AE right? Seems like the attitude these days.

The one thing that no one wants to mention. There is one good reason why you can't buy Incarnate Shards with AE tickets:

You can get AE tickets legitimately without playing the game at all.

Aside from the exploits, this is the reason I believe you cannot and will not be able to buy Incarnate Shards with AE tickets.

A ghost town, you say? Most of that is because of the new Incarnate stuff, true, but I wonder how much is due to the latest big exploit being closed at the same time. We'll probably never know.