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It's hysterical that giving someone sound advice is considered a snide comment.|
Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
When your post boils down to 'listen to the community because I disagree with what you did, so you're wrong' you're trolling for a fight. In fact, every time Blue's posted you've rushed in to make some snide comment. This isn't the Market forum. Let it go and find a new hobby.
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DM/Invuln can be built to solo AVs, it requires very effective slotting and build planning.
I'll continue to feel free to post this idea whenever it pleases me, especially in threads that are so full of misinformation and confusion as to be laughable.
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I'm the one who mentionned it....|
Originally Posted by StormDevil
...I think this should be done on a specified server, at a specified time, with an open invite to anyone who wants to show up. Just so st0ner can be proven wrong in front of, and laughed at by, the largest possible crowd.
EDIT: Oh, while I'm here...I asked a week or so ago about the top (or at least a decent) SS/ attack chain, one which at the very least would allow for AV soloing. Since this thread is now being populated by notable AV soloers, and at least one of y'all mentioned SS as a viable set, any advice on a decent chain? |
My attack chain consist of spamming KO as soon as it's ready, then haymaker or mu lightning. When they aren't up, i'll go for punch/ball lightnin/footstomp.
So i'm just using the spam the best attack like a head-less chicken.
SS attack chains are a bit harder to make cause KO makes up for the crappy attacks. If you can get gloom in there too, you'll pack lots of damage for sure.
Sorry i couldn't help more. ^^;;
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At a quick glance (provided you got the endurance for it), I'd go with Haymaker Punch Gloom, Haymaker Punch KO Blow, Haymaker Punch Gloom, Haymaker Punch Footstomp. You could do better than that but I like simple repetitive chains as not to mess up (and good SS chains are hard to make with that 25s recharge on KO blow).
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EDIT: Oh, while I'm here...I asked a week or so ago about the top (or at least a decent) SS/ attack chain, one which at the very least would allow for AV soloing. Since this thread is now being populated by notable AV soloers, and at least one of y'all mentioned SS as a viable set, any advice on a decent chain?
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Originally Posted by FireWyvern
SS attack chains are a bit harder to make cause KO makes up for the crappy attacks. If you can get gloom in there too, you'll pack lots of damage for sure.
Sorry i couldn't help more. ^^;; |
The chain I run on my SS/SD is (I didn't do the calculations for it, and ripped it from Bill Z)
KO Blow > Gloom > Haymaker > Punch > Gloom > Haymaker.
Requires about 250% total recharge for Gloom (you can get to 97% from slotting Apoc + one of the To Hit Debuff Rech/End pieces, the rest must come from Global Bonuses and possibly the Alpha Boost - although you will be much better off with Cardiac).
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Originally Posted by Nihilii
At a quick glance (provided you got the endurance for it), I'd go with Haymaker Punch Gloom, Haymaker Punch KO Blow, Haymaker Punch Gloom, Haymaker Punch Footstomp. You could do better than that but I like simple repetitive chains as not to mess up (and good SS chains are hard to make with that 25s recharge on KO blow).
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Haymaker --> Punch --> Gloom --> Haymaker --> Punch --> KO Blow
I run 80% global recharge and can run the chain with Hasten is up.
Edit: Deus's chain is better .... mmm two Glooms, tasty
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EDIT: I seem to have confused you with another poster. My deepest apologies!|
Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
It's hysterical that giving someone sound advice is considered a snide comment.
DM/Invuln can be built to solo AVs, it requires very effective slotting and build planning. I'll continue to feel free to post this idea whenever it pleases me, especially in threads that are so full of misinformation and confusion as to be laughable. |
/brainfart
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Dang...my SS/ hasn't got Gloom (I know, I know...stupid sorta RPers and yer crazy concept builds). Ah, well, I've always got my DM/SD.
Sorry for the thread derailment; back to the ill-advised wagering!
This is absurd, plenty of Brutes can solo AVs.
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It's quite nice, if you can get enough recharge you can drop the Dampened Spirits Rech/End Rdx and slot a second proc on top of the Apoc Proc.|
Originally Posted by Rad_Avenger
I run something similar ...
Haymaker --> Punch --> Gloom --> Haymaker --> Punch --> KO Blow I run 80% global recharge and can run the chain with Hasten is up. Edit: Deus's chain is better .... mmm two Glooms, tasty |
And then put Hecatomb in Haymaker, and double proc it again.
I like Clouded Senses or Perfect Zinger procs personally.
This way the two attacks that show up the most often in the chain have the purple procs, as well as a secondary proc.
It's part of how I got a pylon time to 5:46s, although it's not endurance sustainable, and I cheated using recovery serums/blues.
I generally don't need it to be sustainable, as the build is team focused and I usually don't run into End issues outside of hasten & rage crashes (cardiac has done wonders)
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EDIT: I seem to have confused you with another poster. My deepest apologies!
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No harm, no foul.
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Glad we're not bad blood now; I remember having a spat with Obitus over this same issue, and I saw Otiosus and... well, cue mental flatulence.
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Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
It's quite nice, if you can get enough recharge you can drop the Dampened Spirits Rech/End Rdx and slot a second proc on top of the Apoc Proc.
And then put Hecatomb in Haymaker, and double proc it again. I like Clouded Senses or Perfect Zinger procs personally. This way the two attacks that show up the most often in the chain have the purple procs, as well as a secondary proc. It's how I got my pylon time to 5:46s, although it's not endurance sustainable, and I cheated using recovery serums/blues. I generally don't need it to be sustainable, as the build is team focused and I usually don't run into End issues outside of hasten rage crashes (cardiac has done wonders) That's ok, happens sometimes. No harm, no foul. |
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Glad we're not bad blood now; I remember having a spat with Obitus over this same issue, and I saw Otiosus and... well, cue mental flatulence.
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Life's too short to hold grudges over forum shenanigans.
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Grab a Jet Pack. Hover up out of his range. Taunt. No tankers needs inspiration use. With this tactic, a Blaster with the Presence pool can tank Recluse with the towers up. |
Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
Well this is a far far cry from being able to solo one. With IOs and proper inspiration usage you can stand toe to toe with any AV. I tank Recluse all the time on my Invuln tank and while the red tower's up I need to pop purples like mad but outside of that my invuln's a beast all thanks to IOs.
If you're facing a psi AV and that's the hole then just pop inspirations and/or accolades. If you want something different and you've never played a shield then I suggest either dm/sd or fire/sd. They're fun. elec/sd is fun too but doesn't do as much damage. Enjoy. |
That said, I don't see why a Brute couldn't solo AVs. Scrappers do it. Brutes have better survival, and roughly the same damage.
Attack non stop, get attacked by the AV, build fury, take them down! Whoot! \o/
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Hilarious.
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I should have cashed in on this. I just beat the tar out of Captain Holtz AND the Honoree last night on my SS/Elec AND my Fire/Fire.
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Originally Posted by StormDevil
Hilarious.
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Those are watered down AVs. I beat them both real easily on my bots/traps.|
Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
I should have cashed in on this. I just beat the tar out of Captain Holtz AND the Honoree last night on my SS/Elec AND my Fire/Fire.
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I think the poster just chose a poor subject for the post. He just wanted to be able to tank an AV.
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I know they're not the full bore, but taking both on at once has to count for something.
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Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
Those are watered down AVs. I beat them both real easily on my bots/traps.
I think the poster just chose a poor subject for the post. He just wanted to be able to tank an AV. |
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Nice job with the AV, Nihilii! I just doubt you actually get that money, but I'm willing to admit I was wrong with my prejudice if you actually get it.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
Grab a Jet Pack. Hover up out of his range. Taunt. No tankers needs inspiration use. With this tactic, a Blaster with the Presence pool can tank Recluse with the towers up.
That said, I don't see why a Brute couldn't solo AVs. Scrappers do it. Brutes have better survival, and roughly the same damage. Attack non stop, get attacked by the AV, build fury, take them down! Whoot! \o/ |
Yes nice job taking down Mayonaise.
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If you ask me, taking on Holtz alone is already great. It's easy to call him a chump when playing one of the top AV soloing builds such as bots/traps, another thing entirely to beat him on a melee alt. And Honoree at the same time? Well done. | I know they're not the full bore, but taking both on at once has to count for something. |
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Originally Posted by FitzSimmons
I beat them both real easily on my bots/traps.
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St0ner, agreed for 12 billions. Expect the video to hit this topic within the next weeks if not days.
EDIT: Oh, while I'm here...I asked a week or so ago about the top (or at least a decent) SS/ attack chain, one which at the very least would allow for AV soloing. Since this thread is now being populated by notable AV soloers, and at least one of y'all mentioned SS as a viable set, any advice on a decent chain?