So did am i missing something with incarnates?


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So I was in GR beta before they took out the incarnate system and was very...disgruntaled to say the least that it was taken out. However, i figured it would work out since i was under the impression, rather everything i read, said that they were reworking the system because it didn't benefit the players all that much and we were grinding the same content which alot of people, myself included, didn't really like.

that being said, i didn't participate in beta and hadn't seen/played with the system until today...and it really feels like im missing something because it looks like the exact same system that they took out of beta and didn't change really anything.

as far as I can tell the only thing they changed/added was

V merits are no longer included in the process(which i don't like) and they added an introductory arc which after running was nice but it wasn't something so drastic warrent holding the system back.

so my question is, what did they change, aside from the stuff i just said, from then to now to warrent holding it back? because just looking over the system and talking to people about how it works, it looks like the exact same thing. i'd like to thing they made some drastic changes under the hood so to speak so that they fixed the problem of "not helping players like they wanted" thing but all the abilities appear to do the same. so again, whats different?


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They gave us a reason to have and use the incarnate abilities, ie: the new TFs.


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As I recall, they pulled because they though gaining it was a bit "Blah" (thus the new mender arc) and because there was nothing to do with it that you couldn't already do. So the slot itself was fine. And now we have the two Incarnate TFs to do that require the slot.


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Incidentally, an avatar showing an act of violence toward a former president of the United States is probably not a good idea.
I am a little surprised that no one has reported this yet. It must be against to rules.


 

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Incidentally, an avatar showing an act of violence toward a former president of the United States is probably not a good idea.
I am a little surprised that no one has reported this yet. It must be against to rules.
Actually, a closer look shows that the thrown item is a pokeball and the flash of red is an indicator that the target has been caught and imprisoned within the pokeball.


 

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I dunno I'm sure Brock Obama could raise him into a very confusing psychic type..


 

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I'm talking personally.


Anyway, on topic (kinda), I'm hoping to get my first (legit) 50 soon, so I can actually take advantage of the Incarnate system.


 

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it really feels like I'm missing something because it looks like the exact same system that they took out of beta and didn't change really anything.
It is the exact same mechanics as before, minus the various unlocks. The intro arc is new (and pointless), and the time spent developing it could have been put to better uses (in my opinion). One better use would/should have been making the Apex & Tin Mage TFs better or adding more zone events (at least the new zone events are fun).

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as far as I can tell the only thing they changed/added was

V merits are no longer included in the process(which i don't like) and they added an introductory arc which after running was nice but it wasn't something so drastic warrant holding the system back.
And they removed all the other end of TF/SF/Trial/Raid options to unlock the ability as well. Otherwise accurate though.

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so my question is, what did they change, aside from the stuff i just said, from then to now to warrant holding it back? because just looking over the system and talking to people about how it works, it looks like the exact same thing. I'd like to thing they made some drastic changes under the hood so to speak so that they fixed the problem of "not helping players like they wanted" thing but all the abilities appear to do the same. so again, whats different?
In my opinion, no, it wasn't enough of a reason to delay the Alpha Slot. Some other players whined and complained that they were not force-fed a story reason why they got the power though. About the only thing that was changed between July and now is that the Rare and Very Rare Alpha Slots (not out yet) are to be given more protection from ED.




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As I recall, they pulled because they though gaining it was a bit "Blah" (thus the new mender arc)
The new arc is worse than the pulled unlocking options.




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The new arc is worse than the pulled unlocking options.
That may just as much be due to the exemplaring being lowered to 45 instead of 50. Previously, you wouldn't have been able to use the Incarnate options in the arcs that unlocked them. Now, apparently, you can, if you're over 45.

Putting it another way, there are a lot more ways to use the options that originally envisioned. Although I'm not sure of that or how long it will last.


 

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I very much like the new arc for unlocking them, and I didn't whine about the other options before


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I very much like the new arc for unlocking them, and I didn't whine about the other options before
I like it as well however, I admit I'd like another way, because even enjoyable arcs can become tedious with repitition.


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That may just as much be due to the exemplaring being lowered to 45 instead of 50. Previously, you wouldn't have been able to use the Incarnate options in the arcs that unlocked them. Now, apparently, you can, if you're over 45.
Completely irrelevant. During the GR Beta, the only time players were given the option to unlock the Incarnate Alpha Slot was when they were level 50 (and only level 50) and had not unlocked the Alpha Slot prior to the reward window appearing on screen.

I know, for a fact, that this was the case on the ITF, STF, and the CoP (I tested on all 3). The Barracuda SF was broken (wasn't showing a reward window at all), but that was the only one that was broken that I knew of.

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Putting it another way, there are a lot more ways to use the options that originally envisioned. Although I'm not sure of that or how long it will last.
I haven't the faintest idea what you are trying to say here.




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