I'd say we all want the show to succeed. If we didn't care about it we would be getting frustrated and complaining about how things are being done. The show should be more popular because it started with a built in fanbase.
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What popular shows? Dancing With the Stars? Are you telling me you actually watch that banal crap?
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
If moving a show that's struggling to keep and gain an audience to a night where it airs opposite some of the most popular shows on TV isn't Sifee's fault then who is responsible for it? Underpants Gnomes? Barbara Streisand? GW Bush?
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8-10 NCIS after that I log onto the game and play for a couple hours.
That's about all there is on Tuesday.
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Did you hear? It's not Skiffy killing SG:U it... well "US" acordingin to James Rundle: http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/opini...hing-universe/|
Originally Posted by Scythus
Because "SyFy" hates sci-fi. That's why they changed their name and started airing wrestling and all that other crap.
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See... it's all our fault for liking the past show's fun brain-candy escapist approach (and approach that kept the show going strong for 10 years, and only stopped because they Skiffy got the award and then canceled it.) instead of the new direction into the lost hopelessness-ness of the darkness of the agony of the souls of the doomed, struggling, horny novice crew?
How could we possibly like the upbeat, slightly pulpish, optimistic casts of SG:1 and SG:A more than such a panoply of such eyerollingly damaged, caustic, back-biting, untrustworthy, immature, banal, and thoroughly uninteresting manikins of the Destiny?
Who needs, super-science doodad equipped, technobabbley, tongue-n-cheek snark-powered daring-do adventure on alien vistas when we've go a ship full of... well, ship. Oh... and maybe another ship. And a deserted planet here and there.
See... it's all our fault. 8P
Seriously, you'd think with the ratings scrubbing like they are, that someone higher up would have looked down by now and said:
"Hmmm... you know all that gritty artistic humanity you were gonna interject into the new series? Well, dip-****... it's not called 'Battlestar Destiny' and it's not working. The mid-season breaks coming up... Fix it! If you're not sure how, here's Ben Browder and Claudia Black's numbers, find a way to get them on-board. Somebody head down to the bar and get Chris Judge... or and break glass and let Richard Dean Anderson out again. I wanna see Aliens, Zats, and an Tel'tak on the shuttle pad by the spring return or we're firing the lot of ya!"
Personally, the only reasons I continue to watch at this point is to a) give it to the mid season as I promised some friends of mine, b) heckle it a bit (Frikking Chloe...), and c) to see what shenanigans Doctor Smit... err... Rush is going to get up to this time. Unless they have something so bang-pow-zing coming up, I'm gonna free up some more time on the old DVR soon.
It's 106 miles to Grandville, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing faceless helmets
... Hit it ...
... Hit it ...
Well they are bringing in a couple members of SGA midway through the second half of the season. McKay and Woolsey will be appear in what is supposed to be their own small side story in the Milkey Way that goes along side SGU. They probably would have brought them in sooner but they needed to be clear that the movie was still on hold and that there was a way to work around it so that their appearance on SGU happens between the finale and SGA movie.
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That's what you saw in SG and SG:A? wow... all I saw was a lot of badly strung together Deus Ex Machinas... no wonder you liked it.
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Originally Posted by Jet_Boy
Did you hear? It's not Skiffy killing SG:U it... well "US" acordingin to James Rundle: http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/opini...hing-universe/
See... it's all our fault for liking the past show's fun brain-candy escapist approach (and approach that kept the show going strong for 10 years, and only stopped because they Skiffy got the award and then canceled it.) instead of the new direction into the lost hopelessness-ness of the darkness of the agony of the souls of the doomed, struggling, horny novice crew? How could we possibly like the upbeat, slightly pulpish, optimistic casts of SG:1 and SG:A more than such a panoply of such eyerollingly damaged, caustic, back-biting, untrustworthy, immature, banal, and thoroughly uninteresting manikins of the Destiny? Who needs, super-science doodad equipped, technobabbley, tongue-n-cheek snark-powered daring-do adventure on alien vistas when we've go a ship full of... well, ship. Oh... and maybe another ship. And a deserted planet here and there. See... it's all our fault. 8P |
I like the show. I didn't like the other SG shows, I thought they were too... um... kiddie for me. Sure the darky-dark-darkity-dark-darkness of SGU does wear on me, but I think the acting is fine, the effects are top notch, the stories make sense, and I'm interested to see what happens next.
The idea that an ancient Enterprise is on a mission yet the crew has no idea how to fly it intrigues me. I haven't seen that angle before. The closest I can think of is Space 1999 (one of my fav shows) But at least they had a handle on how to run Alpha-one's tech if not how to control the moon.
People in this thread have been pointing out stuff that I do agree with, like the never ending supply of weapons, the medic pack that can treat serious wounds by the score, and some of the repetitive plots, but I also give them slack because what show doesn't have its flaws?
Anyway, this isn't Shakespeare, (and I'm sure there are those among us you can bag on O'l William) this is just a Sify show, and as they go, its down right amazing!
This show is so different from the other Star Gate shows, I understand why people hate it. I get it. I agree, this isn't like them, and if you liked the candy of SG-1 and SG-Atlantis, this isn't a show for you. As fan boys and girls, you have a legitimate reason to be disappointed.
The only real flaw then is that it takes place in the Star Gate Universe. If this was a stand alone show, with none of the trappings of Star Gate. If the "Star Gate" in the hold was just some other type of transporter, and the show was just about the wrong people being on an unknown ship trying to figure out how to make it run, while trying to survive in a far flung galaxy, I think more people would be willing to give it a pass.
In any event, it isn't its own show. Its a Star Gate show, and the creators are banking on fans to help the show get off the ground. This is dangerous because if you aren't faithful to the original, fans can and will turn on you. Fan boys giveth, and taketh away.
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i think this quote makes more sense if it's understood that a pass is 51%, or a 'D' in grade school vernacular.| The only real flaw then is that it takes place in the Star Gate Universe. If this was a stand alone show, with none of the trappings of Star Gate. If the "Star Gate" in the hold was just some other type of transporter, and the show was just about the wrong people being on an unknown ship trying to figure out how to make it run, while trying to survive in a far flung galaxy, I think more people would be willing to give it a pass. |
you're right in that the elements are there, but just like your favourite recipe, it takes more than dumping the parts into a bowl. there's a variety of prep, timing, and basic skill involved in a preparing even the simplest of things, not to mention the quality of ingredients being used.
in the end (or at least up to now) i see sgu as a failed cookie recipe, that was then left in the oven too long, and presented to guests anyway as slightly charred and dry while being told you really just need to eat them with milk.
milk comes next season.
Kittens give Morbo gas.
From what I have heard, outside in the rest of the interwebs there are people that specifically are trying to make this show fail with the reason being that SGA was canceled when the show was reaching a high point and the movie has been put on hold.
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I like SG1 and SGA. I also like SGU. SGU is its own show. It doesn't need to be exactly like its predecessors. If you made it exactly like its predecessors, it becomes Star Trek and then we get stories about the Invincible Lost Science Ship Voyager. Is that really what you want, a ship and crew that never ever get hurt no matter the odds stacked against them? Sorry, but that just isn't realistic enough even for my suspension of disbelief. There's a reason why I didn't care much for Voyager (and Enterprise) and I'd hate to see SGU take that route.
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Originally Posted by Jet_Boy
long rant
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Just a quick heads up, it has now reached the 30 day point so episode 4 can be found on Hulu if anyone needs/wants to catch up.
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Truth... replicate a shuttle from scratch? Riiiiiiiiight.|
Originally Posted by Scythus
I like SG1 and SGA. I also like SGU. SGU is its own show. It doesn't need to be exactly like its predecessors. If you made it exactly like its predecessors, it becomes Star Trek and then we get stories about the Invincible Lost Science Ship Voyager. Is that really what you want, a ship and crew that never ever get hurt no matter the odds stacked against them? Sorry, but that just isn't realistic enough even for my suspension of disbelief. There's a reason why I didn't care much for Voyager (and Enterprise) and I'd hate to see SGU take that route.
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The only good episode of Voyage was "The Year of Hell." I get the feeling that was the writers saying... hey fans, this the the Voyager we WANTED to make, but didn't think the fans would buy it.
Just watched episode 8. AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGH! Very minor spoilage follows.
Not that it was bad overall, not at all. But I absolutely hate that somebody can pick off an object the size of a baseball twice in rapid succession but can't hit a person at the same range just because they are a major character.
Don't count your weasels before they pop dink!
scy, forbin; i would suggest that you're both right, in slightly different ways, that come together in an especially 'meh' way around sgu.
skyfii is responsible for scheduling, and approving (within parameters) what is being written about to translate to production. they are after all not financed by the writers, or underpants gnomes.
the writers are working within the parameters set out by icyfoo that dictate 'REALITY' and 'GRITTINESSITY' likely in 20 point font and bolded across every draft. along with notes like 'it's turtles all the way down' or 'incorporate cylons, but don't call them that'.
neither complement the other.
honestly, i would like to see the show suceed. if i could send a draft that would address a variety of issues i would, but unsolicited drafts tend to make about as far as the circular file, or in rare cases the desktop and whiteout on the name of the submitter.
Kittens give Morbo gas.