Cobat Jumping vs Weave - better offer on Def?

Ok, so Im a brute.. looking into either

Combat Jumping (from wiki)
**While active, Combat Jumping increases your Defense to all attacks, and adds resistance to Immobilization. Moderately increases your jump height and distance while providing good air control.

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Self +Jump, +Defense(All), Resistance(Immobilization)
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or

Weave (from wiki)
** While active, you bob and weave, increasing your Defense to all attacks, as well as your resistance to Immobilize

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Self +Defense(All), Resistance(Immobilize)
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My question is, whats the baseline defense for these sets unlostted? Is it 3% def to all for both? Cant check in-game, and was trying to pre-plan build for I19

May end up taking them both just for the added defense, but wanted to check.
Any insight would be appreciated

City of Data, part of the Red Tomax portion of the CoH Titan Network, is made for questions like this.

Brute Weave has 3.75% defense for an endurance cost of .1625 per half second.

Brute Combat Jumping has 1.875% Defense for an endurance cost of .0325 per half second.

perfect - thanks bunches !

Since this is a defensive question thread I would like to post my question here as well. Does anyone have a link to a detailed explanation about defense? My exact question is:

I have a DP/Elec/Elec Blaster. I have several IO set bonuses that give postional defense. AoE and Ranged in particular but my melee is slacking. So I was thinking about going cold for FA or Scorp for the shield. This will give me good S/L def. I cant use Mids because I have a mac so Im going to throw out some hypothetical numbers.

With FA or SS:
S/L = 30%
Melee = 10%
AoE = 31%
Ranged = 20%
Other Damage types = 5%

If I fight an enemy that does S/L melee damage is the mobs chance to hit based off my S/L or melee? Im assuming S/L because its higher...But now lets say that mob does AoE S/L damage is the mobs chance to hit based of my AoE because it higher? Im hoping yes.

I hope this makes sense and is easily answered. Thanks in advance

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Defense

Tried to write something but you stealth edited in the meantime.

Maybe im missing something super easy like most mobs do S/L damage. To me stacking S/L and ignoring everything else is like have 1 good player and 10 crappy ones on a football team. If my first sentence is correct then I suppose I have a lot of work to do.

If im reading you right Rajani, than your a little bit wrong.

Most attacks carry 2 markers for defence, 1 is Damage type(s) and 2 is Attack Type,

1) Most attacks in the game carry atleast one Damage type, but many are actually flagged for two, Fire/Smashing or Toxic/Lethal, Energy/Smashing etc etc, you could occasionally get am exotic varierty, but mroe often than not, its Something// Smashing or Lethal.

If we look at shadow Maul, its about 50/50 Negative/Smashing, but even if you had a hyptothetical attack that was 99.9% Toxic (the damage type thats hardest to built defence to) and only 0.01% Smashing, than your smashing defence value would still apply to the power if it is the highest one that applies to the power (this is, at higher defence numbers where I think defence exceeds resistance exponentially)

2) some psionic attacks ignore the Attack Type flagging, and some are counterintuitively marked, should Shadow Maul be melee or AoE? its a melee cone, so it could be both, this can only have one Attack Type, so really, if your close to softcapping all 3, go for it, but its ahrd to tell whats gonna hit you and whats not.



So, ill keep on Shadow Maul here, I don't know if its flagged for AoE or for Melee, but we do know its flagged for Negative and Smashing, so if I had;

10% Negative defence
45% Smashing defence

then it will take the smashing defence value in it's final tohit calculation, if we had 45% both, then it would use either, and if negatiev were higher it would use that.

Thats why, with as someone said apparently over 70% f attacks in this game carying a Smashing/Lethal Tag, the easiest softcap to aim for in MOST given opportunities will be Smashing/Lethal. And to go back to my correction of Rajani, for the case of defence fireball is Fire/Smashing/AoE and will take whichever of those values is highest when calculating defence.

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl [*]Watching out for the Spinning Disco Portal of D00M!*

You don't even have to have a character with fireball. Either "start" making a new one, and open up the Power details and hover over fireball, or type /l [Fire Ball], click the result, and go to detailed power info.

When they build a power, they basically hit a check box for what defenses that power will check against. They could make a melee-ranged, Psi attack that checks vs. Ranged/Cold defense, if they wanted to.

In fact:

Fireball:

Maul is melee/smashing/negitive


Notice where it says "Attack Types"? That's what defenses that power will check against.

Fireball deals smashing damage based off the concept of concussive damage from the explosion.

My bad, I gave an incorrect example. But the point holds true.

hah, well thats what youy get for not checking things in a while.

Still i think the majority of enemy attacks are flagged with S/L arnt they?

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl [*]Watching out for the Spinning Disco Portal of D00M!*