First 5 Minutes of Megamind

myskatz · 10-14-2010 06:10 PM

This really looks good and like a must see movie....

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=70747

enjoy.

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starphoenix · 10-15-2010 08:50 AM

I am going to have to see this.

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DeviousMe · 10-15-2010 09:05 AM

Love it!

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2short2care · 10-15-2010 11:16 AM

I really don't like Will Ferrill but I do like Pixar movies and I like animated movies sooo I'll have to go see it.

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Wayfarer · 10-15-2010 11:28 AM

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I really don't like Will Ferrill but I do like Pixar movies and I like animated movies sooo I'll have to go see it.

Um...it's animated but it's not a Pixar movie.

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TrueGentleman · 10-15-2010 12:03 PM

Also, what's the betting Megamind's fish minion is going to make that face that all DreamWorks talking animals have made so far?

SwellGuy · 10-15-2010 12:32 PM

I've been looking forward to seeing this movie for a while.

total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

Marcian Tobay · 10-15-2010 01:52 PM

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Also, what's the betting Megamind's fish minion is going to make that face that all DreamWorks talking animals have made so far?

1) Megamind's already made that face a couple'a times.

2) Pixar's also the same story over and over again, but it's such a good story that no one's noticed. <3

TrueGentleman · 10-15-2010 02:38 PM

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2) Pixar's also the same story over and over again, but it's such a good story that no one's noticed. <3

Come again?

Two characters from different backgrounds form a friendship despite initial rivalry. (Toy Story)
Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven is remade once more, this time with insects. (A Bug's Life)
Two office friends must decide whether their jobs are worth it when a little girl enters their lives. (Monsters, Inc.)
A father must embark on an epic journey across the ocean, while his dispossessed son learns to take on adult responsibilities. (The Odyssey, I mean, Finding Nemo)
A husband and wife rekindle the spirit of adventure in their marriage, bringing their family closer together in the process. (The Incredibles)
A stranded hot-shot city slicker falls for the charms of a sleepy small town. (Doc Hollywood, I mean, Cars)
A young hero braves familial and societal disapproval to pursue a creative dream, with the assistance of a friend who suffers from the lack of one. (Ratatouille)
Charlie Chaplin is a post-apocalyptic environmentally friendly robot... in space! (WALL-E)
An old man makes one last try to fulfill an ambition he's held since childhood, which is complicated by a young boy tagging along. (Up)

As for Megamind, haven't we already seen CG animated movies on the topics of redeemed supervillains and superheroes with mid-life crises? DreamWorks isn't exactly renowned for originality, but here's hoping for some new twists and fewer pop culture in-jokes.

Oliin · 10-15-2010 02:44 PM

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Also, what's the betting Megamind's fish minion is going to make that face that all DreamWorks talking animals have made so far?

Did anyone end up making that face in Monsters Vs Aliens? I can't really remember.

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Marcian Tobay · 10-15-2010 02:48 PM

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Come again?

Okay: An aged relic must get over the sadness of their past or fall behind when they are suddenly thrown into the world of the present day.

Wall-E
Toy Story
Up
Finding Nemo
The Incredibles
Ratatouille (my weakest example, so I put it last. No regrets on the others)

Edit: That's all Pixar's done in any of its great films: Taken a character from a past time and thrown them into a future that forgot all about them. Again and again. The one that subverted the formula was Cars, when someone from a present-gone-wrong had to meet with a superior past. It also got a poor score by Pixar standards.

I love Pixar and think that everything they make is better than Dreamworks, but I hate it when one-joke internet posts begin shaping peoples' thinking.

TrueGentleman · 10-15-2010 02:49 PM

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Did anyone end up making that face in Monsters Vs Aliens? I can't really remember.

Good grief, yes.

2short2care · 10-15-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Um...it's animated but it's not a Pixar movie.

Whoops my bad, still like Dreamworks though so still gonna see it.

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Oliin · 10-15-2010 03:20 PM

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Good grief, yes.

Gah!

In my defense, I saw it in theaters and not at all since

Still thought it was fun though.

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TrueGentleman · 10-15-2010 03:21 PM

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Okay: An aged relic must get over the sadness of their past or fall behind when they are suddenly thrown into the world of the present day.

Toy Story - While Woody fears being replaced, Buzz is quite happy to be a space-age figure (it's being a toy that he needs to get used to).
Finding Nemo - The widowed father is over-cautious, but he's not a relic or even feeling over the hill in any way (and this leaves out the son's story arc).
The Incredibles - Although Mr. Incredible can be fairly accused of being overly nostalgic, Mrs. Incredible has lost her sense of self (Elasti-Girl) by focusing on the mundane day-to-day world. It's the intersection of their character arcs that makes The Incredibles such a great film - and that's not even counting their children's.
Wall-E - The protagonist is not sad about his past at all. The irony that WALL-E is quite satisfied with his existence in a post-apocalyptic world makes the robot love story between WALL-E and EVE that much more poignant.
Ratatouille - The protagonist isn't aged or a relic - he's a young rat. His kitchen scullion friend is a young man with little attachment to his past, the truth of which he has to discover over the course of the film.
Up - At this point, it sounds like you're retroactively applying this film's plot as a template.

This isn't to say that Pixar doesn't have an in-house perspective on life and the world, but the same can be said for other great cartoon studios in their heydays, e.g. Disney and Warner Brothers (but not DreamWorks, unless pop culture references count as a weltanschauung). If anything, Pixar consistently relies on double acts and contrasting pairs in their plots.

There is of course a school of literary criticism that claims there are only a few archetypal stories, but this isn't that kind of thread.

Marcian Tobay · 10-15-2010 03:27 PM

All fair points, save for your Incredibles and Toy Story rebuttals. Your only rebuttals there were to point out that characters existed in that movie that didn't fit my statement. Those cited characters weren't the main characters. Both The Incredibles and Toy Story were told from the perspectives of Mr. Incredible and Woody (respectively), to whom my statement applies. There's a lot else going on, but it doesn't negate what I said.

True on Wall-E as well. He is, however, a literal aged relic blasted into the world of the modern day. Aside from the word "sadness", the rest applies.

Again, I love Pixar and agree on most of your points. That picture that's been meme'ing its way around the internet, however, contributes to this misconception that Pixar's films are wholly original and never repeat themselves. That is not, I submit, true.

It's also not true that this is a deleted scene from Up.

(Oh, and you accused me of retroactively fitting the Up template on everyone else. Full disclosure: This entered my head via a review I read of Wall-E. As such, Up came after I began thinking this.)

BrandX · 10-15-2010 03:56 PM

Watched the link. Have to say, it's only after watching that, that I'm interrested in seeing it.

Before I was pretty meh on it. Now I'm all "okay, I want to see it".

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TrueGentleman · 10-15-2010 04:13 PM

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All fair points, save for your Incredibles and Toy Story rebuttals. Your only rebuttals there were to point out that characters existed in that movie that didn't fit my statement. Those cited characters weren't the main characters. Both The Incredibles and Toy Story were told from the perspectives of Mr. Incredible and Woody (respectively), to whom my statement applies. There's a lot else going on, but it doesn't negate what I said.

While Pixar's movies may have a sense of underlying melancholy that DreamWorks' lacks, your hypothesis misses out on Pixar's emphasis on dynamic couples (and groups). The Incredibles and Toy Story might give Mr. Incredible and Woody slightly more screen time than the other characters (although I'd really like to test that). They aren't titled "The Adventures of Mr. Incredible" or "The Story of Woody the Toy Cowboy" for a reason. The movies don't belong to the optimistic, forward-looking Buzz or the growing-up-suphero Incredible Kids either, though. The titles overtly say where Pixar unites heart and vision.

Contrast this with DreamWorks' movies, which definitely tend to favor a single character's story in their construction.

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True on Wall-E as well. He is, however, a literal aged relic blasted into the world of the modern day. Aside from the word "sadness", the rest applies.

But that formula doesn't center on WALL-E's emotional appeal: a brave little robot cheerfully fulfilling his function in a wasteland (until he finds love, of course). The audience supplies the sense of sadness, which, I'd argue, is how Pixar gets away with the film's hopeful, happy ending.

In any case, much as I hope to be at least entertained by Megamind, I doubt critics will be discussing its emotional landscape at any length.

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That picture that's been meme'ing its way around the internet, however, contributes to this misconception that Pixar's films are wholly original and never repeat themselves. That is not, I submit, true.

I should add that I'm not suggesting Pixar's plots are all astoundingly original. Besides the obvious Seven Samurai-meets-Three Amigos storyline of A Bug's Life and automative Doc Hollywood of Cars, The Incredibles is clearly a Fantastic Four pastiche. But even if originality is overrated - just ask Bill Shakespeare - DreamWorks' movies have a rote sameness about their construction that makes me look forward to Megamind slightly less than the story and cast would have me.

TrueGentleman · 10-15-2010 04:15 PM

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Still thought it was fun though.

I also found Monsters and Aliens kinda fun, but for movie with a cast like that, I expected so much more. (Pixar, just to continue derailing this thread, rarely features actors that convince me I must see their movies, but afterward, I'm continually amazed at the outstanding performances they get from their casts.)

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1) Megamind's already made that face a couple'a times.

Gah.