Can we make one small change to the Storm set?
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BrandX,
Posted on: 2010-10-10 11:56 in Suggestions and Ideas
Funny, I find it quite useful to knock things away from me, into the various patches I put down, etc. It's hardly "useless." I actually end up skipping O2 boost more often than not. Gale's useful to me both solo *and* teamed.
Edit: And Earth/Storm - how are you *not* using gale? Shoving things back into Quicksand, Earthquake and Volcanic Gasses would seem ideal. Not to mention bunching them against walls/etc *before* using those. Shove them together with Gale - VG - Stone Cages (containment damage there) - Stalagmites (more containment damage) and you're good to go. You can get quite a bit of use out of it even before you get Hurricane (20 on a controller.)
Gale and Hurricane can work perfectly well together, too - Hurricane if you've Stone Caged things that are too spread out (Immobs don't generally resist Repel, which is what Hurricane does) and Gale if you just want to push something back *without* disturbing the immob'd mobs positioning.
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May be "useless" for that primary, but try telling a lowbie Mind/Storm or Ill/Storm that. Not to mention any corruptor, defender or MM that takes the set.|
Originally Posted by MasterElemental
Can we change the order of Gale and 02 Boost around?
I have an earth/storm controller for about 5 yrs and I have no use for Gale it's just a waste of power when your primary set locks everything down. If I could place a global in Gale it wouldn't be so bad but it has none, or if it had some decent damage, but as it stands now it's useless. |
Hint for suggesting power changes- you have to look at the totality of users, not just your own narrow perspective.
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Poor OP. You profaned against KB. May Positron have mercy on your soul. 
I would sign the idea, but I think it would be better if people could choose between the first two powers, then everyone is happy.
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I thought he did.|
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
May be "useless" for that primary, but try telling a lowbie Mind/Storm or Ill/Storm that. Not to mention any corruptor, defender or MM that takes the set.
Hint for suggesting power changes- you have to look at the totality of users, not just your own narrow perspective. |
Everyone could use the Heal Other feature for when they're teaming (or in the case of Troller their pet, though Corrs do have access to a pet in their Patron, and Defenders can skip it).
So on the totality of users, all could use it.
I don't care either way, I'm just saying, based on your post, it's not hard to see how having O2 Boost be the first choice doesn't help just as many people as having gale, which quite a few people don't care for.
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I would prefer 02 Boost over Gale. Not that I would really start using either of them, I just would prefer 02 Boost over Gale.
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I have hurricane if I need to move someone it's been a long time since i was below lvl 20, even back then I didn't use it I could lock every one down and drop down anything i need in the area. |
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Funny, I find it quite useful to knock things away from me, into the various patches I put down, etc. It's hardly "useless." I actually end up skipping O2 boost more often than not.
Edit: And Earth/Storm - how are you *not* using gale? Shoving things back into Quicksand, Earthquake and Volcanic Gasses would seem ideal. Not to mention bunching them against walls/etc *before* using those. Shove them together with Gale - VG - Stone Cages (containment damage there) - Stalagmites (more containment damage) and you're good to go. You can get quite a bit of use out of it even before you get Hurricane (20 on a controller.) |
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Originally Posted by Warkupo
I would prefer 02 Boost over Gale. Not that I would really start using either of them, I just would prefer 02 Boost over Gale.
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Poor OP. You profaned against KB. May Positron have mercy on your soul. I would sign the idea, but I think it would be better if people could choose between the first two powers, then everyone is happy. |
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can already do this on a defender. and gale is used for a control for more more control in the low levels. you do not have to slot it or even keep it in your tray.
| I have Hurricane/Tornado and Lighting storm for KB I don't need a power that is just knock back with them. Yes opening up both powers would work better so people could pick and add more variety to builds |
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This isn't about Defenders this change wouldn't effect them. and I don't have it slotted or have it in my tray as in my point as it's a waste
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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint
can already do this on a defender. and gale is used for a control for more more control in the low levels. you do not have to slot it or even keep it in your tray.
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And for my Earth/Storm O2 Boost would be a waste.|
Originally Posted by MasterElemental
This isn't about Defenders this change wouldn't effect them. and I don't have it slotted or have it in my tray as in my point as it's a waste
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I debuff and control foes using my patches rather than slapping them with my AoE immob off the bat. If someone is out of my patch before my Immob is ready to land I use Gale to push them back into the patch (Quicksand and Volcanic Gasses make an awesome pairing!) and then immob them.
I solo, so being forced to take O2 Boost at level 1 would be a complete waste, since I cant use it on myself. At least Gale does some KB and a teensy hit of Damage in an AoE.
-Rachel-
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interesting I normally hit the group with Stalagmites 1st then follow with Stone cages and Freezing rain almost never does anyone escape. most of the time they never get an attack off or have time to run away.|
Originally Posted by Steampunkette
And for my Earth/Storm O2 Boost would be a waste.
I debuff and control foes using my patches rather than slapping them with my AoE immob off the bat. If someone is out of my patch before my Immob is ready to land I use Gale to push them back into the patch (Quicksand and Volcanic Gasses make an awesome pairing!) and then immob them. I solo, so being forced to take O2 Boost at level 1 would be a complete waste, since I cant use it on myself. At least Gale does some KB and a teensy hit of Damage in an AoE. -Rachel- |
I Solo most of the time too at least I could heal my pet with the o2 boost and put one of the heal Global in to benefit me all the time.
I guess we all have our own way to play the set, would be nice if you had the option to choose what works best for each of us
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And that's the thing - Gale is potentially useful for more people in more situations than O2 boost. O2 boost is useless if you solo and/or don't have a pet. Gale can be used regardless - the only thing it needs is a target. |
Originally Posted by MasterElemental
I guess we all have our own way to play the set, would be nice if you had the option to choose what works best for each of us
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If O2 boost were a PBAOE like Radiation's RA, I'd say you had more of a chance in making the request. But look at the secondaries -
/Cold - infrigidate (ST slow.)
Empathy - Healing aura
FF - PFF
Kin - Transfusion
Rad - RA (heal)
Trick Arrow - Entangle
Thermal - Warmth (PBAOE heal)
Sonic - Sonic Siphon (targeted debuff)
And Storm - Gale
All usable both teamed and solo.
I find both gale and O2 boost to be pretty situational. If we're going to swap orders of powers in storm summoning, could we put something useful in the mandatory slot. Like freezing rain?
Lockdown? with Storm?
If you don't like foes flying around all over the place don't pick storm.
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Hmmm, but you actually have to *use* O2 boost to get the unique to work. Just wait until i19 and you can just plop the unique in Health. And if you've got fitness in your build already, *SURPRISE!* now you can have Gale AND O2 Boost!
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Originally Posted by MasterElemental
yeah even if you don't use O2 boost much you can at least put a global in it get some benefit out it. where Gale you can't.
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Can we change the order of Gale and 02 Boost around?
I have an earth/storm controller for about 5 yrs and I have no use for Gale it's just a waste of power when your primary set locks everything down. If I could place a global in Gale it wouldn't be so bad but it has none, or if it had some decent damage, but as it stands now it's useless.