Enhancements are meant to be semi-permanent, and respecs are not meant for stripping characters.
The devs have said previously that this isn't likely to change any time soon.
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Well, regardless, I'd still like to stick to the need to have something that fits around this. Even if it loosely does, and would give the vault reserve some more credit to its creation.
Can't say you've never been in a situation where you would of appreciated a way to get half your inventory off one toon to the next.
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i think castle even stated somewhere that we were lucky to even get 10 slots to be able to strip enhances to
so yeah, this isnt prolly ever happening
I still recall the days of limited respecs. When the Dev's weren't even sure they wanted us to have the ability so they created the Trial.
The only reason we even got respecs for free was changes to powers making certain builds obsolete. Even then they were only handed out once right after the changes went live.
Slowly this stance changed and once the respec recipe was available it became expected that we would get a free one with each issue.
Of course, I have so many Vetspecs at this point I stopped paying attention to it long ago.
I personally don't see the problem in removing the 10 enh cap now. Though this stance might be harder to change than the other.
With Glemail and the markets and all, it really wouldn't be game breaking as far as I can tell.
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..unsigned...you want this to happen..not gonna happen. been said before and nothing you say will change that.
you want to do something thats not primary designed for..fine..work for it tho. its not tht hard
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Originally Posted by Orion_Zidane
Can't say you've never been in a situation where you would of appreciated a way to get half your inventory off one toon to the next.
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Actually they didn't say that we were lucky. The actual phrase was that that they were being generous when they decided to let us pull 10 enhancements off of a build.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
i think castle even stated somewhere that we were lucky to even get 10 slots to be able to strip enhances to
so yeah, this isnt prolly ever happening |
To MaestroMavius:
The position the devs have taken has nothing to do with game balance, It's simply that respecs aren't intended to be used to strip characters of enhancements. Re4specs are designed to let players tweak their builds and correct poor slotting/power choices they feel they made.
However as the game evolved and they added things like multiple builds they acknowledged that people may need more respecs to make those corrections so they added more ways to get respecs. As it now stands there are more respecs available in the game than anyone ever needs for any one character.
To the OP:
The game has plenty of ways to get more than enough respecs to strip any character of it's enhancements.
Trial Respecs - 3 allowed per character
Vetspecs - 5 allowed per character
Patron Respecs - 1 allowed per character also available to heroes that switch sides and run the patron arcs
SOA Respecs - 1 onlly available to VEATs
Purchased Respecs - Unlimited but they don't stack
Freespecs - Unlimited but they don't stack
Respec Recipes - Unlimited but they don't stack
Holiday Respecs - Unlimited but they don't stack
If you aren't willing to aquire the respecs that have already been made available to you then suck it up and deal with it.
To everyone in general:
Out of curiosity has anyone tried doing all the respec trials on one faction then switching sides and doing the respec trials of the other faction to see if they would be awarded that factions trial respecs?
If that works that would open up 3 more trial respecs for players.
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Originally Posted by Orion_Zidane
Can't say you've never been in a situation where you would of appreciated a way to get half your inventory off one toon to the next.
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I do it all the time, I just use the respecs already available in the game to do it.
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It was tested in Beta and doesn't work, the limit is built into the character not the trial, that's why you can get all 3 respecs from the same level of the trial if you wanted. Annoyed a lot of Badgers since it also means we can't have all 6 respec badges.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Out of curiosity has anyone tried doing all the respec trials on one faction then switching sides and doing the respec trials of the other faction to see if they would be awarded that factions trial respecs?
If that works that would open up 3 more trial respecs for players. |
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ah thx for clarifying that, what i heard was what just passed along from another thread
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Actually they didn't say that we were lucky. The actual phrase was that that they were being generous when they decided to let us pull 10 enhancements off of a build.
To MaestroMavius: The position the devs have taken has nothing to do with game balance, It's simply that respecs aren't intended to be used to strip characters of enhancements. Re4specs are designed to let players tweak their builds and correct poor slotting/power choices they feel they made. However as the game evolved and they added things like multiple builds they acknowledged that people may need more respecs to make those corrections so they added more ways to get respecs. As it now stands there are more respecs available in the game than anyone ever needs for any one character. To the OP: The game has plenty of ways to get more than enough respecs to strip any character of it's enhancements. Trial Respecs - 3 allowed per character Vetspecs - 5 allowed per character Patron Respecs - 1 allowed per character also available to heroes that switch sides and run the patron arcs SOA Respecs - 1 onlly available to VEATs Purchased Respecs - Unlimited but they don't stack Freespecs - Unlimited but they don't stack Respec Recipes - Unlimited but they don't stack Holiday Respecs - Unlimited but they don't stack If you aren't willing to aquire the respecs that have already been made available to you the suck it up and deal with it. To everyone in general: Out of curiosity has anyone tried doing all the respec trials on one faction then switching sides and doing the respec trials of the other faction to see if they would be awarded that factions trial respecs? If that works that would open up 3 more trial respecs for players. |
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it currently still doesnt work, however, there is currently 1 way to get the other side spec badges|
Originally Posted by Shadow State
It was tested in Beta and doesn't work, the limit is built into the character not the trial, that's why you can get all 3 respecs from the same level of the trial if you wanted. Annoyed a lot of Badgers since it also means we can't have all 6 respec badges.
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if you have not used the respec from the trial from 1 side and you switch sides and do a respec it will award you badges beginning with the lowest trial and going up, however the ONLY way to get these is if your respec badge from the one side still says "talk to so-and-so to claim this respec", if it says you used the respec your SOL on that badge
i tested this on live with my main, and he has 5 of the 6 respec badges cause he didnt use the 2nd and 3rd respecs he earned in the trials, so im still missing the first hero respec badge until they fix it
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Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by Shadow State
It was tested in Beta and doesn't work, the limit is built into the character not the trial, that's why you can get all 3 respecs from the same level of the trial if you wanted. Annoyed a lot of Badgers since it also means we can't have all 6 respec badges.
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Glad to hear something I provided was helpful.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
ah thx for clarifying that, what i heard was what just passed along from another thread
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While I know the feeling of wishing I had more slots/respecs to make use of those awesome IOs again, but really, I'd rather not see this done.
Part of the reason for this, is the game economy. It'd drop with something that made it even easier.
I mean, why would I purchase Respecs off the market (and be tempted, but haven't ever done so, to purchase a respec from the in game store for 9.99! >_> If it was 1-2 dollars, I might actually do it though), or I wouldn't need to purchase some of the cheaper IOs from the auction house, because I was able to get ALL my unused IOs off one toon, and thusly don't need to purchase them now.
I say this as someone who's had to respec the same toon multiple times to rip all those IOs from one toon to another.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
While I know the feeling of wishing I had more slots/respecs to make use of those awesome IOs again, but really, I'd rather not see this done.
Part of the reason for this, is the game economy. It'd drop with something that made it even easier. I mean, why would I purchase Respecs off the market (and be tempted, but haven't ever done so, to purchase a respec from the in game store for 9.99! >_> If it was 1-2 dollars, I might actually do it though), or I wouldn't need to purchase some of the cheaper IOs from the auction house, because I was able to get ALL my unused IOs off one toon, and thusly don't need to purchase them now. I say this as someone who's had to respec the same toon multiple times to rip all those IOs from one toon to another. |
Just food for thought about their motivations.
I'm sure it's been asked in different ways on many different occasions in this thread and others, but with free activation weekend upon us I'd like my few minutes on the soap box...
I decided I wanted to go ahead and strip my second account that was deactivated due to my being a broke college student status. However, the ones I want to take the enhancements off (PvP toons with purples/HOs/expensive sets) and whatever else can not fit into the 10 slots alloted for personal enh storage. This creates a huge problem since I don't have the resources to get multiple respecs to repeatedly strip the sets and enh.
Suggestion? Idea?
Make use of the current vault reserve we have in game put in the respec enhancement placing window to easily swap out enhancements. It would be limited to how much storage your vault has available, but anyone looking to move around enhancements or strip their toons like I am will be able to do so in a rational way.
I'm not a computer science/programming student, so I don't know how much resource and time this would really take the implement. But, it's taking variables that already exist and creating a small merge with seemingly little time to work out.
/rant
Here's hoping that someone with bureaucratic power comes and reads this
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