Six Un-Slotable Power Pools


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The idea behind this has been bugging me for a while now. I come from back in the day where agro cap was fiction and holds could go on for miles around. Although this is a slight exaggeration, it is not far from the truth. The idea behind it was that if you can take the damage to hold it, you should!

Most of the additional ideas after Agro and Control Management were based from what we can already get in IOs today. Realistically the powers you got at lower levels should be able to improve over time.

The only issue I see with the implementation would be to the agro and control caps. But if all the stackable powers it would affect already have a cap... So I don’t see the problem?


It could be presented like the epic poer pools, like regular power pools, or be available after a series of tasks from the TF/SF Contacts at Level 20 and every 10 levels after that.



Extended Aggression Management (At lv 50 adds up to +8 to Agro Cap)
LV 20 Adds +2 to Agro Cap
LV 30 Adds +2 to Agro Cap
LV 40 Adds +2 to Agro Cap
LV 50 Adds +2 to Agro Cap

Extended Control Management (At lv 50 adds up to +8 to Control/Hold Cap)
LV 20 Adds +2 to Control/Hold Cap
LV 30 Adds +2 to Control/Hold Cap
LV 40 Adds +2 to Control/Hold Cap
LV 50 Adds +2 to Control/Hold Cap

Extended Health (At lv 50 adds up to +200 Health)
LV 20 Adds +50 to Health
LV 30 Adds +50 to Health
LV 40 Adds +50 to Health
LV 50 Adds +50 to Health

Extended Endurance (At lv 50 adds up to +200 Stamina)
LV 20 Adds +50 to Stamina
LV 30 Adds +50 to Stamina
LV 40 Adds +50 to Stamina
LV 50 Adds +50 to Stamina

Enhanced Damage (At lv 50 adds up to +4% damage base)
LV 20 Adds +1% damage base
LV 30 Adds +1% damage base
LV 40 Adds +1% damage base
LV 50 Adds +1% damage base


Enhanced Heal (At lv 50 adds up to +8% healing base)
LV 20 Adds +2% healing base
LV 30 Adds +2% healing base
LV 40 Adds +2% healing base
LV 50 Adds +2% healing base


 

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no. /unsigned. especially to the endurance one. this is code that is just begining to release all sorts of bugs out into the wild.


 

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unsigned,


 

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Originally Posted by Phair View Post
Extended Aggression Management (At lv 50 adds up to +8 to Agro Cap)
LV 20 Adds +2 to Agro Cap
LV 30 Adds +2 to Agro Cap
LV 40 Adds +2 to Agro Cap
LV 50 Adds +2 to Agro Cap

Extended Control Management (At lv 50 adds up to +8 to Control/Hold Cap)
LV 20 Adds +2 to Control/Hold Cap
LV 30 Adds +2 to Control/Hold Cap
LV 40 Adds +2 to Control/Hold Cap
LV 50 Adds +2 to Control/Hold Cap
The powers system doesn't work like that.


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Originally Posted by Phair View Post
Extended Endurance (At lv 50 adds up to +200 Stamina)
LV 20 Adds +50 to Stamina
LV 30 Adds +50 to Stamina
LV 40 Adds +50 to Stamina
LV 50 Adds +50 to Stamina
Whu... wha.... bu... snu.... guh...


*Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*



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+200 Endurance?! Do you have -any- idea of how overpowered that is?! That means 300 -base- Endurance, not counting any IO bonuses or accolades. Which will then in turn go and boost the recovery value up to insane amounts as well.

And yet then there's things like a 4% damage buff? Who would take that compared to a crazy amount of Endurance that could pretty much let you do -anything- with no fear or redlining. 8% of Healing? Pretty much the same as above, an absolutely minuscule amount compared to the Endurance and Health ones.

Just say no to Superadine, kids.


 

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So... Taking all the +50 Stamina boosts, you'd have a base recovery of 5 end/sec. Without IO boosts. Without Stamina. Without any buffs whatsoever. OP much?


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Congratulations, you have just found a new way to break the game.

Agro and hold caps don't scale with level, that isn't how they work, and I'm pretty sure they can't be made to work that way without rewriting a whole helluva lot of code.

The +Endurance thing is just ridiculous. They are already giving us Stamina as an inherent power, what more do you want?

The Health thing is equally ridiculous. What do you do with those bonuses when you find that you've hit the absolute cap for that ATs HP? (It's not hard to hit the cap on stalkers and blasters, the first one of those would do it, and the other 4 would be completely wasted)

The Heal and Damage ones are pretty pointless. You would never even notice a 4% damage boost, and you can get more than that by slotting 3 Obliteration or Devastation in 2 different powers.

Same with heals.

So, /unsigned to the 3rd power


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This idea is terrible and horribly unbalanced. However, the basis for it is semi-sound. I wouldn't mind seeing a slight increase in aggro cap for tanks in particular (something like 20 or 25 would be appropriate). When fighting some enemy groups on an 8-man team (I'm looking at you council and nemesis), a tank as it stands today can't even hold aggro on a whole spawn. And they should be able to.


 

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Originally Posted by Phair View Post
I come from back in the day where agro cap was fiction and holds could go on for miles around. Although this is a slight exaggeration, it is not far from the truth. The idea behind it was that if you can take the damage to hold it, you should!
Do you have the slightest clue as to why things like this don't work now the way the did "back in the day"? Once you realize the Devs did what they did to FIX the game you'll see why they'll never go out of their way to consciously break it again. Think about it a little more and you'll understand why your suggestion will never happen as you've described.


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I understand that my numbers are not what would be accepted and that the code is not yet written for such things. I don’t pretend to know the coding behind the power sets so my numbers are irrelevant, as such overpowering and making CoH unchallenging is not the intent behind this suggestion.

Ten years ago the coding for City of Heroes wasn’t written either, nor three years ago was the coding for IOs. Progression is a good thing in a game as long as it moves the game forward.

I would like to see some character progression for powers besides IO enhancements. I don’t farm AE for the Millions of Inf it takes to get a good IO set now days, nor do I buy Inf from farmers. I’d rather be out playing with other people on scanner missions or running though the sewers.

Originally, I was going to suggest this be done for the core TFs as something that can help the progression of a character without investing anything but time playing with other players. I personally would like to see something like this after the end of a long TF instead of random OI’s.


Also Firespray,
Thank you for the constructive criticism.