The Ultimatum


Chad Gulzow-Man

 

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If your girlfriend (or boyfriend, or whatever you call your significant other) told you that you had to choose between her (him/it/them/whatever) and City of Heroes, which would you pick?

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I picked you guys.

Okay, that's a bit of an over-simplification of things, and it didn't help her accusations that I'm addicted to vidjagames... but I still think I chose the right answer.


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Depends. Were you in the middle of a task force?

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Well, I'm married, so I don't really have a choice.

City of Heroes all the way!


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Well... it depends. How much do you game? If you're playing every day, and most of the hours when you're not working/going to school, you have a bit of a problem, I would say. I love writing, reading, photography, and video games, but I'm not going to spend all my free time with those things, either. My wife would rightly get upset, and even if I wasn't married, I'd be a little obsessed.

Now, if you only play a few days out of the week for a couple hours or something, that's not unreasonable for a hobby. Depending on what it is, your decision might have been right. Any hobby is fine, done in moderation. Well... depends on the hobby. I need to remember what forumites I'm talking to. But playing video games for a hobby is not a bad hobby, and cheaper than many hobbies you can have. So if she was begrudging you playing games at all, I would say that is an issue.


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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster View Post
Depends. Were you in the middle of a task force?
It did come up once during a TF, yes. I explained that I was part of a team of other players who were counting on my participation, and she didn't really get that you can't just press pause on an MMO the way you can on a Nintendo game.


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It did come up once during a TF, yes. I explained that I was part of a team of other players who were counting on my participation, and she didn't really get that you can't just press pause on an MMO the way you can on a Nintendo game.
She sounds a little unreasonable.


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She sounds a little unreasonable.
She is. That's why I had to break things off. ._.

Tough decisions suck. Having to make those decisions and hurt someone you genuinely care about sucks extra.


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It did come up once during a TF, yes. I explained that I was part of a team of other players who were counting on my participation, and she didn't really get that you can't just press pause on an MMO the way you can on a Nintendo game.
Yeah, I mean, you can't just stop in a middle of a task force. That sort of crap gets you one or two starred and bad stuff entered in player notes. She should have been supportive and made you a sandwich.


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It did come up once during a TF, yes. I explained that I was part of a team of other players who were counting on my participation, and she didn't really get that you can't just press pause on an MMO the way you can on a Nintendo game.
You're sidestepping all my questions! I'd say that's unreasonable entirely, unless you said you would be done at a certain time and then jumped on a TF that would take longer than that.

I dunno. Sometimes relationships just don't work out when someone can't understand the other person's hobbies. People can get upset over someone's hobby, no matter what it is. Games aren't the only case. It sounds like you ran into someone that wasn't willing to work with your interest no matter what.

At least I'm assuming you were reasonable on your side and weren't gaming 24/7.


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I'm not sure GP is the best person to ask for advice on matters like this...


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I'm not sure GP is the best person to ask for advice on matters like this...
Or anyone who has posted in this thread above me....


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?

Why... because I suggested you shouldn't follow a hobby every minute that you aren't sleeping or working? If so... ummm, what's wrong with moderation?


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/em whipping sound


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I believe they're implying your opinion isn't valid because you're married.

In my opinion, if you're a gamer and the person you're dating/married to isn't a gamer then you're doing it wrong.


 

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Sorry to hear Chad.

As a person married to a non gamer I find advantages and disadvantages to it.
If you spend too much of your free time gaming and not giving attention to your relationship then that could be a problem. Of course there are those who find any gaming a waste of time and want every second of your free time focused on them which to me is unreasonable.


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She should have been supportive and made you a sandwich.
Haha!


 

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Sounds like she was mad because you wouldn't PL her.


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It did come up once during a TF, yes. I explained that I was part of a team of other players who were counting on my participation, and she didn't really get that you can't just press pause on an MMO the way you can on a Nintendo game.
this is one reason my parents really tick me off, they think i can just push pause or just leave "because its just a game" but they dont get the fact that im actually playing with other people

as for my GF, she plays coh too (a LOT less than i do, but she still plays it and understands when im in the middle of something)


 

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You're sidestepping all my questions! I'd say that's unreasonable entirely, unless you said you would be done at a certain time and then jumped on a TF that would take longer than that.
I logged into the game one time when she was an hour late for a date (without letting me know she was going to be late), and she got mad that I wouldn't log off immediately because I was getting a mayhem mish ready to run with some friends. As soon as we were done, I logged out.

Also, I was unreasonable for expecting her to let me know she was going to be late.

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I dunno. Sometimes relationships just don't work out when someone can't understand the other person's hobbies. People can get upset over someone's hobby, no matter what it is. Games aren't the only case. It sounds like you ran into someone that wasn't willing to work with your interest no matter what.

At least I'm assuming you were reasonable on your side and weren't gaming 24/7.
I work a full-time job and, while City of Heroes is pretty much my number one go-to when there's nothing specific going on, I prefer to spend time with the people around me. I keep myself and my place clean, and I exercise for about an hour at least three times a week.

And you're right, the video games weren't the only thing she didn't like me doing... she didn't approve of me watching anime. The only thing she's ever seen was a tentacle hentai someone tricked her into watching several years ago. I watch Fullmetal Alchemist, One Piece, Naruto and Bleach, and despite my insistence that none of them feature any sexual content, she still thinks I'm watching "smut." : /

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Sounds like she was mad because you wouldn't PL her.
She was interested in trying the game, briefly. When GR came out last month (and I went to stay with her parents for a week instead of playing CoH), I installed the game on her laptop and got it running... but she doesn't have a gaming machine and complained about how ugly the game is and uninstalled it immediately.

It was right after that when she started telling me I was addicted to the game. MMO addicts take time off their game to spend time with the people they love right when a major expansion gets released, right?

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In my opinion, if you're a gamer and the person you're dating/married to isn't a gamer then you're doing it wrong.
It works for some people. I thought it could work for us, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten into the relationship to begin with.

She's got hobbies and interests that I have no interest in (and in the case of her favorite band being ICP, slight loathing of), but I always made sure that she understood that I didn't want her to stop enjoying them. I always have my own stuff I can do, and Gameboys are portable and work with headphones.


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Sounds like you're better off, Chad.

Wait... she was a Juggalette and thought *anime* was smutty?


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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
and she didn't really get that you can't just press pause on an MMO the way you can on a Nintendo game.
This I get this all the time:

Soon to Be Mrs.Scooter: When you get to a pausing point, can you <fill in the blank>?

Me: Um Sweetheart, It's an MMO there is no pause button, I can go AFK but that usually makes me a bad team member and then I don't get to play anymore.

Her: Oh, right, well can you <fill in the blank>.

Me: Yes, after this mob/mission/TF depending on my desire to sleep on the couch/help and the urgency of her request.


Fast forward to next time I am playing.

Her: When you get to a pausing point...

Me: <headdesk>

As far as the OP, IF I was forced to choose, I would publicly choose her, and sneak in game time while she was away/ sleeping.


 

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Wait... she was a Juggalette and thought *anime* was smutty?
A-yup. She does enjoy hypocracy...


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Chad... yup, I would say that's on her end. You obviously were making time to be with her and she wasn't cutting a lot of slack on your end. That hour late for a date thing was just... ridiculous. I'd get sick of that kind of behavior immediately. If you're really late, you have no right to get mad at me when I make you wait a few minutes.

Heck, if anything, I'd say she was coming up with an excuse to fight with you. You're not being unreasonable with your hobby, so to say you're obsessed is a bit much.

My wife doesn't mind games and plays them off and on, but she doesn't like CoH enough to justify an account, she says. She'd feel obligated to play to make it worthwhile, and she'd just want to play once in awhile. Which I get. I'm glad she understands my playing, though!


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Hi. My name is NIGHT RUNNER. (Not really.) Or Uldar the Skilled. (In my other game; but again, not really.) And I am a MMORPG addict.

But it is a nice addiction. It doesn't cost much. No one dies (at least not literally.) I remain functional: I work to support myself and my household, I eat, I sleep and I shower fairly regularly. I am capable of conversation about things OTHER than the games I play. I can even sit in the living room (without game in sight) and perform my central matrimonial function: a good ear as my wife reviews the drama of her day (and she's a high school teacher, so there's a fair bit of drama to cover )

My wife is not a gamer. She doesn't understand my gaming. She says.

And then I catch her playing Spider Solitaire when there are any number of other things she could/should be doing. So she isn't into MMORPGs, but she does understand addiction.

Going back to the OP, it sounds like there were a lot of issues OTHER than the gaming. I think it is very important to recognize our partners for who they are and take a look at the whole package on balance, good and bad. Yes, I game. Yes, I can be a little obesessed about it at times (like when I was depressed/melancholy for two weeks after getting a new computer because I couldn't play my games the way I used to). But I can also carry on normal engaging conversation with people. I perform comedy improv. And some people (my wife included) even find me intelligent and witty on occasion.

So I think the challenge is to find a nice woman with a balanced perspective. I don't know if you're as ancient as I am (44), but I have found that once they get past their "bad boy" and/or "I can fix him" stages, some women can be pretty sensible. (I'm sure that there is a parallel comment that can be made about people of my gender.)

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And some people (my wife included) even find me intelligent and witty on occasion.

Proof, or it didn't happen.


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