I'm a Mastermind and a Master Jerk!

More raging plz. Sounds like Tank envy, Nalrok_AthZim.

You know, the funny thing is, I haven't had a single tank or brute complain about me being in melee with them. I guess they like my big bubble or leaderships or something. IDK. Confuses the hell out of me...

I think I would just tell the team that you are a tankermind, and your primary goal is dishing damage and taking in damage and it is fair. Also, forget about it negative players. Usually I find most whiners are actually players who believe that they are good, but actually play terribly. I hope you do bubble prior to AV/HERO fights or in special situations, but I think it's fine overall not to bubble everyone, expecially the brute or tank (if they are half decent, they won't need bubbles except at early levels). Pets running wild can actually be one of the most dangerous things on a team in some cases, so better to control their leash.

Of course, I could argue that a good MM should be able to bubble and control the pets and tankermind ;-P, but a good tank and a good brute should not need a bubble. I bubble squishies and only bubble the tanks/brutes prior to big battles or in early lvls.

P.S. Make your bubbles super bright red or green and then people will not ask for them as much. Make them dark grey and they are barely seen, so people will not notice they are on or off much. Either strategy works pretty well actually for bubble/player relations.

Cheers

I feel so liberated on my Bot/FF mastermind because I don't have to constantly swap between firing attacks and putting shields on my teammates. Since my bots are doing damage, I'm free to keep their health topped off and keep shields on my fellow players and my pets.

I'd say it is easier to keep bubbles up on everyone as a mastermind than as a defender or controller.

I have a no nonsense attitude towards villain ATs that don't buff. I give them no nonsense. Evil doers don't care unless there is something in it for them.
If you come to hero side then the concern counts when concern is needed to be had. Are people dying around you? Are people slower without your buffs? Are you always finding other ways to contribute, including saying something funny?

MM's should have a macro saying "full time buffs on teammates as long as there are full time buffs on my pets".

Thank you!

Who teams with masterminds?

Heroes, Villains ♦ Reviews ♦ Retrospect

I know how you feel and trust me it is not something that is limited to MMs. I tend to shy away from buffing sets with my MMS.. My 50 level Thugs has DM as a secondary and so does my 49 level Demon Summoner. I've even told people I hope you have awakes because my Rez is one nasty disorienter and when its recharges I use it. So the chances it will be available if you face plant are slim.

However I have played a LOT of controllers and defenders and just love dealing with players that obviously have no clue how hard it is to keep an entire 8 man team buffed or even what powers you have available. I had a Blaster SCREAM at my ILL/EMP for Clear Mind almost constantly in a mission full of Lost Bosses. Until I finally sent him a tell and informed him that ..
1) I am the only player on the team that I can't buff and half the time while your screaming for help I am being held myself and I am out or breakfrees and

2) At this level CM isn't even available to me yet so you are screaming for a power I couldn't give you if I wanted to.

When I team with whatever I try to take care of my team mates as best I can. Hey as long as I'm alive and have 7 other team mates around me I can always re summon a pet/minon. I have never played a FF but I have Thermals and a Kin and trying to keep everyone on fire can be tricky and even tiring after a while. It's easy for a Blaster to stand there doing nothing but clicking one attack after another to scream for MORE CM, MORE FORT.. all they need to do is worry about the target in front of them and which one to target next. I'm trying to keep 7 targets buffed and at times they are scattered to the point where the only way to get to some of them is to rush THROUGH a mob and hope I survive. Ummm guess what depending on where most of the team is .. If that means the Scrapper that decided to rush ahead and aggro his own private mob dies while I keep the other 6 team mates alive then Scrappy better have some GOOD respites cause I am staying with the TEAM.

Pets can be resummoned indefinitely.

Teammates can't.

Two things I'll say up front to the OP:

1) Nothing wrong with your play style. Works fine with some teams or players, not others, but that's THEIR play style talking. Have some respect for it. Especially if they're jerks about it. I'm one of those odd people that likes being obnoxiously polite to jerks. Amusement often ensues.

2) I tend to have 2 different play styles with buff MMs. a) Buff my pets, and trust my team mates to have a modicum of survival instinct, and b) buff my team mates to the exclusion of my pets which are, after all, easier to replace mid-fight.

When first being added to a team, I'll typically ask something along the lines of "Do you guys want me to buff you all instead of my pets, or do you know what you're doing?" Astute observers will note that "both" is not an option. Don't allow them to assume it is. More often than not, I end up doing option b (my preference), at their behest.

And if another MM on the team wants you to buff him and/or HIS pets... laugh... a lot...

I'm kinda surprised this is still going.

I felt the urge to give a little update to my experiences.

I have continued to go on with my play style. I give buff where it's needed. Team does bad, then hand out some buffs. I respec'd and picked up Provoke after deciding that someone's advice in a guide I read wasn't for me.

I was on a team a few nights ago when I was doing my Tankermind thing full time. Without stretching the story, we had no deaths until after 4 missions. In that mission, the team acquired not 1, but 2 tanks. I took a break to grab some enhancement for my new level (47). Upon returning to the mission, I found nearly everyone acquainting themselves with the floor. The team regrouped. I chose NOT to hand out buffs. Returned to what I was doing on the team and, what do you know, things went smoothly again. Two bad tanks? Perhaps. It felt nice knowing I could handle +4 Arachnos and Carnies though. Team effort though. Can't write off the people I'm taking point for.


To respond to a few posters:

-When a troublesome blaster dies and a tank is tanking, is it the tank's fault that the blaster died? I won't take responsibility for another MM that can't control itself.

-If I'm playing with a Tank/Brute. I'll let them charge ahead at first and get a read on them. Then, I'll charge in with them. If they move too slow for me, I'll take point. If they have a problem with it, I would probably revert to the previous step. Haven't had that yet though.

-My play style has me attacking and re-summoning/training somewhat often. When running 6 toggles (Yes, I have stamina and I slot for END), sometimes the END is low and I don't have blues to spare. I usually keep them for my re-summons when things go bad for my ninja comrades. All in all though, it really comes back to my play style. I'm not going to min/max when it's not needed.

On a final note, I've done some low level TF. Low enough where I'm not equipped to tank as well as I would normally. In this instance, I did put myself in a more supportive role.