Hopefully it's in the works. For now, we've got no idea though. It's been suggested a hell of a lot, and we can only hope it's being worked on.
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Hell just full on accessories! Like have a cool looking knife on the left leg, a back pack, pistols holster. etc would be cool. NOW THAT SHOULD BE A PACK! Not a lame party pack 
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There are a limited number of points where any costume parts can be used. They've used - basically - all but two so far as I know, adding the tails and taking them off the Belt area used up one that they'd been saving up.|
Originally Posted by Stingman
Hell just full on accessories! Like have a cool looking knife on the left leg, a back pack, pistols holster. etc would be cool. NOW THAT SHOULD BE A PACK! Not a lame party pack
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It would be nice, but the costume generator has its limits. I'd like to see maybe "pants" - and then "knife loop left" "knife loop right", etc. Basically the same pants but with new modifiers to them.
Of course, there are at least two threads for costume suggestions. Go find em, post in them.
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I think there is a free node that could be attached to the model...
If so, it must be backpacks.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Hopefully it's in the works. For now, we've got no idea though. It's been suggested a hell of a lot, and we can only hope it's being worked on.
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If I recall correctly, the issue they ran into with back items is that the node to attach things doesn't move when the character's size changes. Ever use a Raptor Pack with a max sized Huge character and had it clipping into their back? |
Originally Posted by BenRGamer
I was playing my Mercs/ MM earlier today, and I had a thought. The Spec Ops have a neat looking backpack that they wear, plus I think a category like that could include more things people like.
I.E. Backpacks, Sword on Back, Dual Swords on Back, Shield on Back, Jet Packs, Raptor Packs, etc. |
Last I checked they hadn't figured out how to fix that issue. And from what I understand they won't do something until they can get it to look decent.
We don't have long robes for the same reason, they looked like crap with any animation that makes your legs move too much. NPCs have them because they can control what powers the NPCs have, they can't do that with player characters. Ever see a CoT Guard throw a kick? There's a reason they don't.
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This has been suggested at least once a week since literally the beta. The developers know that everyone wants the things, and they're not sharing whatever their reasons are for keeping them under wraps. The player skeletons thing is a half-excuse because there are still nodes to be used, and the clipping excuse is never going to convince anyone, since so many different items in the game already clip to the point of hilarity.
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Well the thing to keep in mind is that there are only so many spots on a character model that you can add a new texture to them. However i think that it would be need to see some accessories that fit in with our currect power sets better then we have.|
Originally Posted by Stingman
Hell just full on accessories! Like have a cool looking knife on the left leg, a back pack, pistols holster. etc would be cool. NOW THAT SHOULD BE A PACK! Not a lame party pack
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I get tired of pulling a sword out of my *** on my katana scrapper. It would be nice to have a back detail that had like two modes. Think rocket boots here. Where when flight is on they shoot fire when its off they dont. Have a sword scabard for the back, that when you are attacking is empty but when at rest shows a sword in it. I dont need any fancy animation to match pulling the sword out or anything just something that basic.
Maybe a cool couple jet packs for flight animations with protruding wings when in use and retracted when not. Some belts with dual pistol holsters, again empty when attacking holding pistols when at rest.
I think things that would work into the current costume fields like these would be a great addition and agree with most that i bet more people would be willing to pay for a full one costume accessory package then do for like 2 new costume sets, a new temp power and what not that are in the current sets.
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This confuses me somewhat. Don't wings and capes scale with size? Why would one back detail be able to do that, and another can't? I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist, I'm just saying the reason isn't particularly obvious from looking at what we currently have in the costume creator.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
If I recall correctly, the issue they ran into with back items is that the node to attach things doesn't move when the character's size changes. Ever use a Raptor Pack with a max sized Huge character and had it clipping into their back?
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Been asking for more back options (backpacks, jetpack costume items, etc.) for year. YEARS. As much as I agree with and support this suggestion whenever it crops up, I'm not holding my breath.
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This confuses me somewhat. Don't wings and capes scale with size? Why would one back detail be able to do that, and another can't? I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist, I'm just saying the reason isn't particularly obvious from looking at what we currently have in the costume creator.
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I have noticed though, that when I use the temp powers that are in the form of backpacks, on some characters it matches up perfect, some characters it's buried in their back, and some characters it's floating out behind them.
I would also surmise that, since we have wings and capes, but not backpacks, it would be using a different node.
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While this is most likely true, it's also complete fan thesis, a large part of which I've put forward, myself, with screenshots, no less. It makes sense given how these powers work, but as far as actual, official information goes, I do not believe a developer has ever in the history of the game commented on this subject. Not even to deny its existence for the six years we thought it was coming and it wasn't.|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
If I recall correctly, the issue they ran into with back items is that the node to attach things doesn't move when the character's size changes. Ever use a Raptor Pack with a max sized Huge character and had it clipping into their back?
Last I checked they hadn't figured out how to fix that issue. And from what I understand they won't do something until they can get it to look decent. We don't have long robes for the same reason, they looked like crap with any animation that makes your legs move too much. NPCs have them because they can control what powers the NPCs have, they can't do that with player characters. Ever see a CoT Guard throw a kick? There's a reason they don't. |
I don't know what gives, and there probably is SOME reason why backpacks have been this long coming, but I highly suspect it's "low priority" more than anything distinctly technical. When we talked about power customization back in the days when it was out of the question, BABs dove in with us to tell us why this probably wouldn't happen. Neither he nor anyone else, nor even David Nakayama have so far stepped up to so much as acknowledge that this request even exists.
OK, my error. Jay did acknowledge its existence via a sarcastic post to the effect of "No, really? You guys want jet packs? I did not know about that. I am so putting it on my list!" It didn't really tell us anything on the subject beyond the fact that jay, at least, knows about it (like pretty much everyone else) but what the problem is has never been announced to the best of my knowledge. Not on the forums, anyway. I don't follow the developers on Facebook and Twitter.
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There has been nothing posted anywhere ever as to why back details won't happen. Literally not one post that even ackowledges that people have been asking for them for six years now without result, let alone a proper explanation of why we can't have them. The popular excuses you see floating around are exactly that; popular, invented by other players of the game in the absence of actual reasons, and usualy demonstrably incorrect or at the least misleading.
We have no idea why they haven't been implemented after so long, whether that reason is technical, fiscal, or just an attitude thing. We don't know whether it has ever been worked on. Every time something new comes out for the back, like the capes, the jetpack powers, the halfcape, the wings, and the cloak, a whole new level of antics brews up as people ask why, if we can have these things that seem to take much more developer hours and are in vastly less demand, we can't have back details. We never get a response.
Most people eventually give up on asking, because without any recognition from the development crew, there's not much point in going on. There's always new players to come and ask the same questions. Mayeb one day one of the developers will take the twenty seconds to actually give us any answer. Most wouldn't even care if it's true any more.
we have been asking for this since CoV launch when then hinted at back back packs and back symbols in the beta ><
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While this is most likely true, it's also complete fan thesis, a large part of which I've put forward, myself, with screenshots, no less. It makes sense given how these powers work, but as far as actual, official information goes, I do not believe a developer has ever in the history of the game commented on this subject. Not even to deny its existence for the six years we thought it was coming and it wasn't.
I don't know what gives, and there probably is SOME reason why backpacks have been this long coming, but I highly suspect it's "low priority" more than anything distinctly technical. When we talked about power customization back in the days when it was out of the question, BABs dove in with us to tell us why this probably wouldn't happen. Neither he nor anyone else, nor even David Nakayama have so far stepped up to so much as acknowledge that this request even exists. OK, my error. Jay did acknowledge its existence via a sarcastic post to the effect of "No, really? You guys want jet packs? I did not know about that. I am so putting it on my list!" It didn't really tell us anything on the subject beyond the fact that jay, at least, knows about it (like pretty much everyone else) but what the problem is has never been announced to the best of my knowledge. Not on the forums, anyway. I don't follow the developers on Facebook and Twitter. |
The robes thing definitely was directly from Jay, I believe it was in his costume request thread in response to a whole lot of people requesting them.
I think BaBs mentioned the backpacks when he was talking about Shield Defense. If memory serves, someone said that if we can attach a shield to an arm we should be able to get backpacks, and he explained the node thing. I'm a little fuzzier on the backpack issue, but I remember backpacks being the subject when I first learned about the various nodes for costume piece attachment.
Wish I could be more certain about it, but I'm operating from a vague memory as to why we don't have them yet.
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CoV nothing. People were asking for jetpacks and backpacks since before I joined in May 2004. Why is this such taboo for the developers?
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we have been asking for this since CoV launch when then hinted at back back packs and back symbols in the beta ><
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Ever see a CoT Guard throw a kick? There's a reason they don't.
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A lot.
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Ever see a CoT Guard throw a kick? There's a reason they don't.
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I was playing my Mercs/ MM earlier today, and I had a thought. The Spec Ops have a neat looking backpack that they wear, plus I think a category like that could include more things people like.
I.E. Backpacks, Sword on Back, Dual Swords on Back, Shield on Back, Jet Packs, Raptor Packs, etc.