Most of the time.My Arachnos toons are always loyal members of Arachnos,and my Praetorian main is a Praetor,with PPD-like costume!
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Mine aren't necessarily related to the NPCs, although they do weave through their storylines. (Some were the inspirations for my characters to become heroes or villains, others helped shape their powers, etc.) In one notable character (and fanfic) instance, said character is now dating Positron in a rather awkward, geeky, nerd-flirting relationship. On the flipside, one of my villains has a major hate-on for Arachnos and has every intention of making Ghost Widow wish she were actually DEAD.
And as for making them related, you never know - second cousins? Foster child? Genetic sample stolen by a villain that led to your character? There are possibilities...
Good luck!
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well, it all depends, for example, in terms of related powers, I feel that the Devs deliberately leave things open as plothooks for players, namely the Nuclear 90, I rolled a Rad/DP defender as one of them, or my Praetorian Wind(kin)/SR scrapper is supposed to recieve the mantle of Gregale from the Dark Watcher when he leaves Praetoria.
But for actual, blood relations? Well... I sheepishly admit, my DB/SR brute is supposed to be the great great newphew of the Lady Grey. Part of why he gets put through his paces in the Vanguard and why she always seems disappointed in him.
Though, it's not something that comes up often. and I like you, I try to make sure it's within reason of the canon.
And the way I see it, as long as it is reasonable, I don't see why not.
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That's the problem with claiming to be any kind of relation to a game NPC. There could easily be others claiming the same thing; so if you meet, you could end up in a tangled mess.
Purely IMO of course, but this is nothing but godmodding the game universe and should be avoided at all costs. You have NO idea when the devs might actually include a canon relation that stuffs yours right up, and then there's also what other players are doing too.
Also, and I'm being honest here, such characters are Mary Sue's. You want your character to be more "special" than anyone elses and, to be honest, that's NOT going to gain you much respect from other players; quite the opposite in many occasions, actually.
Best to be your own character and get them famous in their OWN right, rather than trying to ride the coattails of another.
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I suspect, in BlueBattler's case, is that he has altitis, been there done that, you know?
Besides, Blue's fanfics are FANTABULOUS. So I don't see why Blue can't do that. Now, any other tom, dick and harry? Yeah - I don't think so.
Personally, none of my toons (and I have over 160 of them!) are in no way remotely related to any of the canon NPCs, kinda due to facts mentioned in FFM's post.
So, if you're one hellatious writer, as in BlueBattler's case, go right ahead fine by me. Also, using lesser known and/or lesser seen NPCs from in-game seems to be the way to go as far as making your toon a leaf on the family tree of canon NPCs.
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So, if you're one hellatious writer, as in BlueBattler's case, go right ahead fine by me. Also, using lesser known and/or lesser seen NPCs from in-game seems to be the way to go as far as making your toon a leaf on the family tree of canon NPCs.
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"Hi, I'm Fusionette's cousin- wait, don't run away! I don't even have energy powers, and I actually PASSED my SATs! Darn it... no one ever wants to team with me."
Better yet, make a totally midget sized female character and relate her to Doc Delilah.
"Yeah... she's my aunt. I think she got all the growth genes for her generation and mine. It's a thing. If I could reinforce her hat, I'd carry it as a shield."
Michelle
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Samuraiko/Dark_Respite
Dark_Respite's Farewell Video: "One Last Day"
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)
THE COURSE OF SUPERHERO ROMANCE CONTINUES!
Book I: A Tale of Nerd Flirting! ~*~ Book II: Courtship and Crime Fighting - Chap Nine live!
MA Arcs - 3430: Hell Hath No Fury / 3515: Positron Gets Some / 6600: Dyne of the Times / 351572: For All the Wrong Reasons
378944: Too Clever by Half / 459581: Kill or Cure / 551680: Clerical Errors (NEW!)
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Yes, Blue's fics are quite the bomb.
(That's a compliment, btw, in case local slang translates that wrong.)Can you imagine your character being related to, say, Captain Castillo? Or Vernon von Grun? Fusionette? "Hi, I'm Fusionette's cousin- wait, don't run away! I don't even have energy powers, and I actually PASSED my SATs! Darn it... no one ever wants to team with me." Better yet, make a totally midget sized female character and relate her to Doc Delilah. "Yeah... she's my aunt. I think she got all the growth genes for her generation and mine. It's a thing. If I could reinforce her hat, I'd carry it as a shield." Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
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Better yet, make a totally midget sized female character and relate her to Doc Delilah. "Yeah... she's my aunt. I think she got all the growth genes for her generation and mine. It's a thing. If I could reinforce her hat, I'd carry it as a shield." Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
For me, basing on lore is fine, but when we get into actual game NPC's, things get a little bit iffy. I'm not sure if the man mentioned has family or not, it's been a long while since I've done the arc, but if I ever use an NPC, it may just be as reference in a story.
What Z said, really.
For example, my main Alpha has Positron in his backstory...in as much as Posi was the one who first sent him to the Zig when he started out.
And that tied in nicely when I did Kuh'Rekt's missions, and handed Posi his own and Valkyrie's backsides.
The closest I've come to a Canon character was with my Crab Spider, Krimzon Commander. As a regimental commander and an Arbiter for a fairly brief stint, there was some written interaction between Krimzon and Recluse. I ended up writing for Recluse very similar to Vetinari from Terry Pratchetts discworld. To still be ruler of the Rogue Isles after so long requires quite a large dash of Machievelli style thought, in my opinion.
However, all of that was very self contained, and I've never had characters that are in any way related to NPCs.
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That's the problem with claiming to be any kind of relation to a game NPC. There could easily be others claiming the same thing; so if you meet, you could end up in a tangled mess. Purely IMO of course, but this is nothing but godmodding the game universe and should be avoided at all costs. You have NO idea when the devs might actually include a canon relation that stuffs yours right up, and then there's also what other players are doing too. Also, and I'm being honest here, such characters are Mary Sue's. You want your character to be more "special" than anyone elses and, to be honest, that's NOT going to gain you much respect from other players; quite the opposite in many occasions, actually. Best to be your own character and get them famous in their OWN right, rather than trying to ride the coattails of another. |
I really want to see a character named Front Lawn Fighter now.
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Yes, Blue's fics are quite the bomb.
(That's a compliment, btw, in case local slang translates that wrong.)Can you imagine your character being related to, say, Captain Castillo? Or Vernon von Grun? Fusionette? "Hi, I'm Fusionette's cousin- wait, don't run away! I don't even have energy powers, and I actually PASSED my SATs! Darn it... no one ever wants to team with me." Better yet, make a totally midget sized female character and relate her to Doc Delilah. "Yeah... she's my aunt. I think she got all the growth genes for her generation and mine. It's a thing. If I could reinforce her hat, I'd carry it as a shield." Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
Hat Shield customization NOW!!!
And thank you both for the compliments! 8-)
In truth, I have lost count of the number of characters I have.
When I make a toon now, I'm looking for something special about it that makes that particular toon fun to play. Sometimes its a particular power set, but generally it's some personal quirk in the character. Some goal that I want that character to meet or achieve as part of his or her personal narrative.
For instance, I have a Traps/Sonic Defender who was "Hero Support" (See the movie Sky High for the reference) whose hero fell in love with someone else and left him. Now Blue Gadgetz is trying to see if he has what it makes to be a hero in his own right.
Shade of Blue is a Warshade from a world where Blue Battler failed to stop the Path of Darkness. His big hook is that he has to grow in power until he can fight Requiem in Unai's arc and avenge his fallen world.
The hero I was referencing in this thread will be a Dual Blades/SR scrapper who is the only survivor of his family after an attack by what he believes are magical creatures. (In his original incarnation it was werewolves and he used a silver blade to fight them.) IN COH terms, he will discover that it was actually the Council searching for something that his ancestor Berekeley left behind with his family. My new hero will find all this out by the time of the Path Arc and then will be understandably* hacked off and reluctant to rescue Berekely during that arc. That's the "hook" I'm thinking of using.
*I'm going by the idea that Berekeley tends to lose track of the people who were important to him in his past due to his immortality. "We were your family! You should have been there!" "Kid, I've got thousands of descendants! There's no way I can keep track of 'em all!"
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No, I don't make characters who are related to canon characters. It's tacky, more or less as soon as you consider doing it. Similarly, I wouldn't have a canon character as a patron, because it's tacky.
Writing fiction about canon characters, having canon characters appear in your fiction... as long as it's done well (and BB does do it well), that's cool. It's not actually that far from using other people's characters in your own stories. (The only difference is that you can ask a player's permission fairly easily.)
If your uncle is Positron, however, your player is a pratt.
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I've never gone the relations angle, but yes I've often tried to integrate my characters/background into canon.
One of my favorites is a necro/ MM that looks no more alive than her henchman, and 'woke up' in Potter's Field after being the victim of one of those CoT rituals heroes run past in Paragon on their way to a mission. (She is a little bitter about not having been saved. And isn't real found of CoT.)
Praetoria has been great for this.
I have a Resistance member whose ID bio is written in Resistance-speak. With an awkwardly phrased normal text addendum post arrival in Primal (trying to fit in, and all).
A Loyalist whose parents were killed in a Resistance raid, and hence is blindly supportive of Cole and Co.
Most recently I worked on one that is colored red from his past usage of Fixadine, and wants to support the Empire in finding a way to help the Destroyers reintegrate. (He is level 1 in the tutorial, and probably in for a bumpy ride.)
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Glad to see other people have similiar ideas of just why a character might hate them so
Well, yes, then there's my Praetorian. Her father was a PR guy in the PPD who shopped her brother to the state for turning Resistance. She hates Cole's side for killing her brother.
On the other hand, a Resistance operative tried to kill her in her bed.
She thinks both sides are about as bad as each other. (Let's face it, they are.)
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I don't know if this counts.
My main tank, a inv/ss behemoth. InvulnerBull gets his size, strength, and horns from Talos. Bull's mother (who died giving birth to him) was the great-great-granddaughter of the giant Talos of Talos Island. He was raised on a Texas farm by friends of the mother.
I almost always include some kind of canon character or faction into the bio of my creations.
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Well....thing is...
Uhm. How would a woman and the big guy...uh
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BS/* Scrapper: Stabberbull
Earth/* Controller: Minerbull
Empathy/* Defender: Healerbull (Battlecry: "ARE YOU HEALERBULL? NO! BUT I AM!")
Philosophy student: Debaterbull
Sorry... my wife hates it when I do bull jokes. The insertion of high explosives into a male bovine? Abominable.
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BS/* Scrapper: Stabberbull Earth/* Controller: Minerbull Empathy/* Defender: Healerbull (Battlecry: "ARE YOU HEALERBULL? NO! BUT I AM!") Philosophy student: Debaterbull Sorry... my wife hates it when I do bull jokes. The insertion of high explosives into a male bovine? Abominable. |
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At least he's not another son of Lucifer born of the 666th angel that he *aped... :/
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It's terribull the linguistic gymnastics being witnessed to make the puns applicabull. It's comparabull to torture of the ears most horribull.
Simply put, incredibull leaps of grammar have turned the passabull into the notabull.
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Hey, all.
Most of the time I don't get to roleplay in the game, but I do spend a fair amount of time thinking about the background of my characters. Some of the information gets put into their bios, and some of it doesn't.
One of the things that I was thinking about was making another attempt to bring a character I had invented as a teenager into the game as a COH character. I was thinking that I'd like to use the "hook" of making him related to a Canon NPC.
I have done this already for three of my toons. Neither they or their ancestor know it, but they are descended from one of the COT Mages who returned to the surface world in the 1920s. (Not Akarist or Zoria; the one who shows up in one of the Patron Arcs partying with the Carnies.) The Blaze Family is descended from this COT Mage and a Flapper Girl-- my hunch is she probably gave their grandfather up for adoption, so he knew nothing of his ancestry either.
Now as in my fanfiction, I always try to make things plausible in the creation of my toons. I don't think it's really plausible for a toon to be a child or spouse of a major NPC like Statesman, Recluse, etc for the simple reason that such a major part of the character's life should show up in canon somehow ... and the odds of the Devs ever making a PC into a canon character are pretty slim.
My latest character I'm inclined to have be a descendant of Bentley Berkeley, the immortal we meet in the Path of Darkness. Now I am debating on whether or not Berkeley would have kept in touch his mortal family-- my own inclination given what he says about not keeping up with people much-- is that even if he knew that he had a child somewhere he wouldn't stick around the family that much ...
Which sort of leads me into the hook for my character. When he loses his family in his origin, he blames Berkeley for their deaths ...
What about the rest of you? Do you often create toons whose backgrounds touch upon Canon NOCs? How far do you think that can go without being tacky?
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