Officially speaking, as others have stated, if I have my characters interact in story or background with canon NPC's, then mine are always, like Desdemona, a footnote. The principal I apply to it is most famously formulated as:
"For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me... it was Tuesday"
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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The really brain-woggling thing is that it's apparently semi-canon for PCs to be able to become Arbiters and Marshal. Particularly the latter, where the badge title outright says that you've been granted that title. Doesn't necessarily mean I like the idea of characters doing it, since we'd have ten billion characters per server with the titles if it were recognized, but still.|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Claiming to be a Marshall would be a huge no no. Arbiters? Well, they seem to have a lot of them in places like GV and whatnot. I personally avoid Arbiters now as I said, but if anyone can play 'em well, so let 'em.
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I hold with the general consensus--Having your character related to/highly important to a canon NPC is generally bad form. Your character has a crush on Indigo or once had a few drinks in a bar with Synapse? Fine by me. You're Indigo's lover or Synapse's son? Now you're pushing it.
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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Originally Posted by Kelenar
The really brain-woggling thing is that it's apparently semi-canon for PCs to be able to become Arbiters and Marshal. Particularly the latter, where the badge title outright says that you've been granted that title. Doesn't necessarily mean I like the idea of characters doing it, since we'd have ten billion characters per server with the titles if it were recognized, but still.
I hold with the general consensus--Having your character related to/highly important to a canon NPC is generally bad form. Your character has a crush on Indigo or once had a few drinks in a bar with Synapse? Fine by me. You're Indigo's lover or Synapse's son? Now you're pushing it. |
Well, in actual canon backstory it says specifically that each Island has a Governer and a Marshall, so badge be damned, frankly.
Arbiters, on the other hand, seem to be fairly common, as seen in Grandeville and, heck, every zone. Recluse's own personal eyes, ears and in some cases fists. And we also know they do go out and fight, a la Arbiter Sands.
So Arbiter is at least half way believable, although most people still seem to use it as a power and ego trip rather than an actual RP challenge.
Marshall? Nah.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Hmm...
Everything I've said in this thread has been my opinion. I've not attempted to set rules for other people, but an opinion was requested and has been given. It isn't just my opinion however, I could get a random selection of roleplayers and (especially) LARPers together and get the same opinion. You earn positions of power, you don't assume them.
However, I have been rather nice about my opinions here. Actually, I'm rather more hardcore about it.
"I'm related to Statesman:" Why? What possible benefit is to be gained by this? Aside from making your character more important or boosting your ego, there's nothing about this that's not gained by using a non-canon character instead.
Two good examples, both Zortel's characters. Arrow Azure's father was a semi-famous hero from a while back and his son has followed in his footsteps. He comes from a line of heroes. He could have been Manticore's long-lost brother, but he isn't. The Moral also comes from a line of heroes, the title passed down since the Civil War. It creates a history for the character, but doesn't mess with canon and is actually imaginative.
There's no need to be a relative of some famous, canon character, because you can always use your own imagination to create a character to be related to. Unless, of course, you want some RP advantage due to the relationship. All you're doing is demonstrating your own lack of imagination.
Now, what I don't understand about the OP here is that he clearly has a good imagination and he's a pretty good writer. I have absolutely no problem with his stories about the canon characters, because they're good stories, and I don't have to treat them as canon, they're his interpretation of the characters. It's not much different to me writing a story with any of the GG characters (which I've done, with permission of the player). So why feel the need to have characters related to the NPCs? Why not create something that's actually original?
I'm happy enough with characters being members, or even leaders (to a certain level) of canon groups. The alternative is that they create their own group and be entirely unable to back it up with any in-game effect. Both have the issues, generally that you run the risk of power-gaming contact with other players. ("You're under arrest, and if you don't agree I'll have fifty PPD officers down here to arrest you." "Oh yeah, let's see that then." "You're a lousy roleplayer...") I have two PPD characters, one a bit part created for some fiction, the other a member of a special ops team I barely ever play.
Vampires: I have no problem with people playing vampires. I have a problem with people playing uber-hard, super-vampires who ignore any and all conventions and simply want a God character. If you can play a vampire well, more power to your elbow. Most of the vampires I've met in this game (and almost all other MMOs) have been power-gamers wanting to play gods.
And I'm getting a bit tired of being told I set rules for people and then break them myself, especially when the person making the accusations can't back up the accusation with any facts.
Disclaimer: The above may be humerous, or at least may be an attempt at humour. Try reading it that way.
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