Seriously. Fix this already.

I think it was a mistake mentioning your difficulty settings, Skarmory. That kind of derailed this thread, it seems. That said, I agree. If I want to fight mostly +1 foes, I will SET IT to +1. A mission should spawn foes mostly at the level set by the player with a number of them at higher level, not the other way around. That's how it should work, that's how it USED to work, and it bothers me that so many seem to be okay with this disparity in the difficulty system.

1 boss and 1 minion spawning frequently throughout a mission at x2 players is a fairly new thing (I do not remember seeing it prior to I18) and I do not believe it is WAI. Sure, it could be an occasional spawn, but this spawning is most definitely not how it used to be.

Usually once a floor/room spawns on pack that way, the whole room floor ends up being that way. This is not a good behavior. It is boring and not at all what I want out of +1 / x2-5 with bosses on. Bosses have been spawning way more than they should and it should be fixed.

A few posts asking about that would have been preferable to the dozen spawned by what was given. But hey, feel free to discount the rest of my post, Forbin - I expect no better from you.

Sometimes, it's operator error. However, other times people tend to forget that difficulty got royally screwed over when the new settings were introduced. Just because you're happy with your increased "challenge," guys, doesn't mean you have the right to talk down to those of us who were pretty happy with what difficulty settings used to spawn back before. I was personally told by I think it was Mod8 at the time that the new difficulty settings did not and could not correspond to the old ones in any combination.

The fact that so, so many bosses spawn is new. It didn't used to be like this on Tenacious. You would occasionally get a boss here or there, but missions comprised entirely of bosses were exceedingly rare. After the changes, one of the first things I played was an outdoor instance in Moth Cemetery, where nearly half the spawns consisted of a Dark Ring Mistress or a Master Illusionist. considering how many spawn points that map has, I must have gone through at least 50 of the things. The very next mission, I turned bosses off and have not looked back. Seeing an almost all-boss mission has not been a rare sight since. In fact, every Tsoo mission I'm on these days seems to have at least six Chi Masters, sometimes two right next to each other. I keep being reminded as to why I chose to turn bosses off.

I also dislike how spawn size and spawn level became divorced. Before, the old difficulty settings would give you large spawns at difficulty level and small spawns at difficulty level +1. Right now, that pair-up is no longer valid, so it's not uncommon to see large spawns at +1 and small spawns at difficulty level, which creates a much more massive a difficulty variance. And, yes, boss + minion IS a large spawn, the larger variant of boss alone. It should not be spawning at +1, but it does.

Ideally, if I had a choice, I'd like to fight the level of enemies I actually picked to fight. If I chose to fight +0x2 enemies, I would ideally like to fight +0 enemies. I do not want to pick +0x2 and then face an entire mission of +1s. If I wanted to fight +1s, I would pick +1x2, only then the entire mission will be crammed with +2s. I'd pick -1x2, but then the computer will choose to spite me and give me all -1 enemies despite me wanting to fight even cons. We have a choice, but we don't REALLY have a choice because difficulty varies so damn much that the choices blend together.

I'd ask people to stop browbeating others about wanting the game to be easier. It's not a question of easy or difficult. It's a question of spawn rules. You say pick an easier difficulty, I say I ALREADY DID! I picked +0, but it's not +0 when all it spawns is +1, is it? I don't need it to be easier. I need it to be more consistent with what I actually picked.

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

It's the divorce of level and size that bothers me so much.

Different character, different group. +0x2 gave me a spawn of 4 minions and a LT, all +1. Last I checked, that shouldn't happen outside of, what, +1x3?

That's my main problem. x1 makes +0 groups yawn-inducingly boring. x2 makes +1 groups much too lethal for some of my characters.

Not yet. Will try tommorow, gonna try to score a mission against Arachnos.

some groups spawns have been apparently borked since i18/GR went live

unless someone can convince me that one +2 Freakshow minion by himself in a "mob" is supposed to equal one hero/villain

the XP probably still adds up...but the spawns definitely aren't WAI

Sorry, but I'm still not feeling this is something that needs to be 'fixed'. Rephrase your arguments any way you like but they still come down to this...

"I set my missions for TWO characters and now they are too hard for ONE character."

And...?

If you talk to a Fateweaver (or whatever the blueside equivalent is called.) It says "I think I'm as good as or better than 2 standard villains/heroes." It does not say "I want to fight more enemies, but only even-con please."

As far as I'm concerned once you switch up from the default +0/x0 difficulty settings you forfeit the right to complain about it being too hard for one player, because you've chosen to run a mission that isn't set for one player.

Have any devs commented on this at all? Or is this argument about the difficulty just among the players?