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I don't know whats going on, but honestly someone needs to step in.

What is the "main" and final chat channel for Liberty?
NYC and promoting LBnoBS is the new liberty channel, other is talking about LBx. Whats going on with LB? Needs to be cleared and made final on which is the main channel for Liberty. This is very confusing on to where to go.

I like sisterhoodfriends because its heavily modded, and doesn't change channels like women changes purses.


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We can chanjoin DreamWeaverz and watch them grow!

I'm sorry I can't resist that. It's like a warm apple pie.

It should remain LB and now that there's a command to boot old / inactive accounts there should be no need to change from LB.


 

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Thats what I said. Why is Liberty split up into 2 channels though? Don't need 2 LBs.


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I never heard the details... (shrug)


 

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Periodically, people start up new chat channels. Some of them grow and thrive; some are empty and silent. It all depends on how people end up using them (or not using them).

There is really not an official "main and final" chat channel for Liberty. We are a little too anarchic to have such a thing. The mods of this channel or that channel can officially announce "Our channel is the official Liberty channel" all they want, but ultimately it comes down to, which channel do people actually use.

Right now, the channel with the most people and the most message traffic is LB. That may change someday, but I believe that is unquestionably true as of this writing.

As an LB moderator, I don't plan to stop anyone from advertising LBnoBS, Liberty's Channel, SisterhoodFriends, Camo's Teen Lounge, Robo's Lounge, or any other random vaguely Liberty-related chat channel they want (provided they aren't TOO spammy about it). If everyone on the channel decides to migrate to one or more of these other channels, that's totally their choice and their right. That may eventually make one of the other channels the biggest and most useful channel -- someday.

In the meantime, life goes on.


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Originally Posted by FitzSimmons View Post
We can chanjoin DreamWeaverz and watch them grow!

I'm sorry I can't resist that. It's like a warm apple pie.

It should remain LB and now that there's a command to boot old / inactive accounts there should be no need to change from LB.

LOL... we're not interested in growing that much... but a nice thought... We've never claimed to be the best or even an alternative to any other SG channel out there... just an option that people are welcome to join without drama...

But I am always flattered at your continued attention

Regarding LB... The channel was just updated to LB a short while back, I can't believe thechannel is in need of another overhaul already... But, whatever works for those mod'ing the site or who want to make it better.


 

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The channels I use are LB, Sisterhood Friends, Robo's lounge, and Libertys channel. LB, SHF, and LC are all of the same idea with differences. LB has a lot of chatter going on but you can still find tf/sf. SHF has some chatter, but it's because they are all friends, mostly focused on teaming/tf. Liberty Channel is like LB with actual rules. Robo's Lounge is mostly friends of Robo and those people's friends.

I think SHF and LC pretty much cover the idea of LBnoBS


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Originally Posted by PoliceWoman View Post
Periodically, people start up new chat channels. Some of them grow and thrive; some are empty and silent. It all depends on how people end up using them (or not using them).

There is really not an official "main and final" chat channel for Liberty. We are a little too anarchic to have such a thing. The mods of this channel or that channel can officially announce "Our channel is the official Liberty channel" all they want, but ultimately it comes down to, which channel do people actually use.

Right now, the channel with the most people and the most message traffic is LB. That may change someday, but I believe that is unquestionably true as of this writing.

As an LB moderator, I don't plan to stop anyone from advertising LBnoBS, Liberty's Channel, SisterhoodFriends, Camo's Teen Lounge, Robo's Lounge, or any other random vaguely Liberty-related chat channel they want (provided they aren't TOO spammy about it). If everyone on the channel decides to migrate to one or more of these other channels, that's totally their choice and their right. That may eventually make one of the other channels the biggest and most useful channel -- someday.

In the meantime, life goes on.
Such an 'arresting' way to put things into perspective... I was 'handcuffed' to my computer while reading in such 'detective-like' detail...
I know, I am 'liable' to get 'busted'... but hey, 'judging' by what others post... I am neither pro nor 'con' and should be 'pistol-whipped'...


 

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Shot, you should be shot.


 

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I say, "The more channels the better." Heck, I can't follow what's being said on all my global channels now, so why not make it completely hopeless for me. I think I'm up to 12 or 14 total channels. Not even sure when they increased the maximum number.

But seriously, if there is a need for a new channel then by all means add it and see if people use it. There is a lot of chatter on LB. It doesn't bother me but if someone wants a dedicated badging channel, I'm glad I added it.


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Originally Posted by FitzSimmons View Post
Shot, you should be shot.
Been there, done that... I just click go to base, reload inspirations, head back to the battle and go from there... Sometimes, I let our friends know on the channel that I am alive again... some even reply... but hey, it's a work in process...

LOL... you're just too damn funny!


 

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Originally Posted by PoliceWoman View Post
As an LB moderator, I don't plan to stop anyone from advertising LBnoBS, Liberty's Channel, SisterhoodFriends, Camo's Teen Lounge, Robo's Lounge, or any other random vaguely Liberty-related chat channel they want
Ouch.

I never claimed SisterhoodFriends was the Liberty channel. I actually promote and encourage folks to join LB, telling them it's our biggest channel. I call SHF a Liberty channel in my forum sig, but I post all over the forums so I kind of thought letting people know where it was based was being a responsible spokewoman.

LB is by far the most populated and most utilized channel that has a majority of Liberty residents as subscribers. No question. Is SisterhoodFriends a good sized, healthy channel? Absolutely. I don't think we are a "random, vaguely Liberty-related chat channel".


 

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No, no, and no.

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I don't know whats going on, but honestly someone needs to step in.
What is the "main" and final chat channel for Liberty?
NYC and promoting LBnoBS is the new liberty channel, other is talking about LBx. Whats going on with LB? Needs to be cleared and made final on which is the main channel for Liberty. This is very confusing on to where to go.

I like sisterhoodfriends because its heavily modded, and doesn't change channels like women changes purses.
I never claimed that Sisterhoodfriends was a main or big chat channel for Liberty. All I said is that I like the channel since its heavily modded.

It's just confusing what channel to use, I'm def keeping shf as one, and obsidian ops, and steeles channel.
Also, theres some people in LB that are not in LBnoBS - vice versa.

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As an LB moderator, I don't plan to stop anyone from advertising LBnoBS, Liberty's Channel, SisterhoodFriends, Camo's Teen Lounge, Robo's Lounge, or any other random vaguely Liberty-related chat channel they want.

Bah, never told you to stop anyone. Advertise all they want, just that some people were irate and confused. All of a sudden, *person* changes description that LBnoBS is the new channel for Liberty for considerate people. I don't think there was a reason until people talking about it, and I think it made *person* to quit as LB/noBS that I've heard.


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Originally Posted by Green_Eyed_Lady View Post
Ouch.

I never claimed SisterhoodFriends was the Liberty channel. I actually promote and encourage folks to join LB, telling them it's our biggest channel. I call SHF a Liberty channel in my forum sig, but I post all over the forums so I kind of thought letting people know where it was based was being a responsible spokewoman.

LB is by far the most populated and most utilized channel that has a majority of Liberty residents as subscribers. No question. Is SisterhoodFriends a good sized, healthy channel? Absolutely. I don't think we are a "random, vaguely Liberty-related chat channel".
Sorry, I meant no offense with respect to SisterhoodFriends -- I only listed it because I consider it to be one of the significant Liberty-related chat channels. In fact, I'd say the friendlier atmosphere on SisterhoodFriends is a big factor in making it one of the more successful Liberty chat channels.

By "other random vaguely Liberty-related channels" I mean stuff like someone randomly starting a new LibertyWithChocolateSprinkles chat channel (or whatever).


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Okay Fitzs or me need to start a LibertyWithChocolateSprinkles chat channel just because PW made me smile.

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Well, chocolate sprinkles do make everything better.


 

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Originally Posted by PoliceWoman View Post
Sorry, I meant no offense with respect to SisterhoodFriends
Thank you, PW!

Maybe I am getting too thin skinned, it just seems I am defending Sisterhood and deflecting things left and right these days...


 

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YUMMMMMMM!... Chocolate Sprinkles...


 

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ahhh I hear PWs gun in the background: *Pew pew pew pew pew BOOM*
Where did Draygos go?


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I'm up on the catwalk... doing my little strut on the catwalk...


 

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Originally Posted by PoliceWoman View Post
Periodically, people start up new chat channels. Some of them grow and thrive; some are empty and silent. It all depends on how people end up using them (or not using them).

There is really not an official "main and final" chat channel for Liberty. We are a little too anarchic to have such a thing. The mods of this channel or that channel can officially announce "Our channel is the official Liberty channel" all they want, but ultimately it comes down to, which channel do people actually use.

Right now, the channel with the most people and the most message traffic is LB. That may change someday, but I believe that is unquestionably true as of this writing.

As an LB moderator, I don't plan to stop anyone from advertising LBnoBS, Liberty's Channel, SisterhoodFriends, Camo's Teen Lounge, Robo's Lounge, or any other random vaguely Liberty-related chat channel they want (provided they aren't TOO spammy about it). If everyone on the channel decides to migrate to one or more of these other channels, that's totally their choice and their right. That may eventually make one of the other channels the biggest and most useful channel -- someday.

In the meantime, life goes on.
PW is wise.

She reminds me of Tub Ci in Praetoria. Justice is given, vengeance is earned.... now show him the gift of mercy.

Channels come and go, thrive and pass into obscurity. Liberty is like a large, loud family at a Thanksgiving dinner. Grandpa is grouching, Grandma is busy in the kitchen, the siblings are fighting, the kids are having fun. And Uncle Bobo is in the corner ignoring all of it getting drunk.

OK, maybe I'm rambling. I agree with PW. For myself I use Liberty's Channel, SisterhoodFriends, and LB (sometimes ignore it when it gets too feisty). I'm currently in LBnoBS but waiting to see how that turns out.


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This thread has too much good in it. Let me bring it down a notch.

**** everyone!

*ahem*

Carry on.


 

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All,

Here is my $0.02 on the issue. If I am not mistaken, there is a finite amount of chat channels that one can have (this may be inaccurate but the number of 10 keeps coming to mind). We have LB, LBx, LBnoBS, Liberty Badges, Liberty TFs, etc so that leaves a precious few channels available for SGs to have (such as Sisterhood Friends and Dreamweaverz) or just a friends only channel (such as Robo's and Camo's lounges) for the toon/account.

I believe the problems that have plagued LBx and LB are more due to some of the moderators not doing their job (I am not singling anyone out here, just an observation). My reasoning for this assumption is the splinter channels that pop up every so often, such as Steele's channel and now nyc's new LBnoBS. These channels were created because of an increase in frustration about conduct and language on the "main" chat channels (LBx and LB specifically). Also, you will get mods who use their subjective judgment instead of a formal set of rules and regulations.

My solution to the problem:

  • Get a group together (either on a separate channel that is private or Vent) to spearhead the creation of an "Official Liberty Channel"
    • The group should be dedicated players who have experience in channel moderating and want to create a channel that everyone can join.
  • The group should then create a set of rules and regulations that everyone agrees on.
    • These rules are to be posted on the Liberty forums which will serve as an "End User License Agreement" stating that by participating in this channel, you agree to .... [insert rules] and failure to do so my ... [insert consequences for non-compliance]
    • The rules are to be enforced evenly and fairly across the board. This will take out the "this mod is to mean" comments and give a legit system of "right and wrong" conduct that is uniform.
  • Post the rules with the chat channel join command.
  • Allow the channel to be silence on join. [see note as to why]
  • Mods un-silence new members.
  • Mods will be responsible for being "keepers of the peace" and enforce the rules.
NOTE - The reason I believe the channel should be silenced on join is simply that if an abusive person is silenced, he/she can still listen to the conversation and, if they leave, they will still be silenced.



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