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Am I reading this correctly: Bud has 3 accounts, which are @Xxl3udweiser8xX, @Budvveiser8xX, and @Terminal Bliss, but he wants to play with the first 2 of those and some other person's account (@Sgt. Klaw) and then have his nephew use the @Terminal Bliss account?
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"I" have 16 accts. Myself, Cougar Pride & Dupont Warrior both of whom are my nephews, and their mother Azure Scythe, started all playing this game together 6 years ago, We all have accts, we all use the accts, were family... why cant we? I pay for the accts, We all use them. Hell half the time you think your talking or fighting with me, it might be with them.
Cougar wanted to take part in the event, He had 2-3 toons in mind he wanted to use. Hes being told he cannot take part in the event if he uses "whats known to be my acct" @Terminal Bliss, UNLESS the acct global is first changed, The individual toon names must be changed, and this one Im assuming, the appearances must be change because Kat told me the toons must not be recognizable as my toons at all.
To me, this seems unfair and way excessive. having to put out large amounts of actual cash in order to go play in a pvp tourney? Wow... and I really thought we had put the bitterness and out to get eachother attitudes behind us. But maybe Im taking this all wrong and its a rule designed to keep "all the pvpers with multiple accts from letting their FAMILY members that have every much as right to the accounts as they do, from cheating in this most devious way"
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What you could have done is added @Terminal Bliss next to your name, and @Cougar Pride next to his name. Then privately plan to allow him to use @Terminal Bliss, while you either sat out that match, or secretly used his account. Although that is also against the rules, its what i would have done if the situation was that dire to me.
The rule that kat is enforcing is actually in fact not her own. It is a common rule amongst pvp ladders and she is adopting it for her event. Its not to punish family members who share accounts, but to keep the people who take this game waaaaay to serious in check.
Sorry that your cousin wont play but if you do it the way i said in the beginning of this post, im sure most captains will turn a blind eye to it, as long as terminal bliss and budweiser aren't in the same match at the same time.
But that's still against the rules
Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I'm assuming Kat is trying to prevent others from abusing rules regarding accounts; I doubt any people would have a problem with the family sharing plan you described there, especially if accounts are designated for certain people before the start of the league.
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Im nervous since my team has no experience playing together
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I fully understand the not using Sgt. Klaw acct, thats fine and understood. But heres the part Im having an issue with.
"I" have 16 accts. Myself, Cougar Pride & Dupont Warrior both of whom are my nephews, and their mother Azure Scythe, started all playing this game together 6 years ago, We all have accts, we all use the accts, were family... why cant we? I pay for the accts, We all use them. Hell half the time you think your talking or fighting with me, it might be with them. Cougar wanted to take part in the event, He had 2-3 toons in mind he wanted to use. Hes being told he cannot take part in the event if he uses "whats known to be my acct" @Terminal Bliss, UNLESS the acct global is first changed, The individual toon names must be changed, and this one Im assuming, the appearances must be change because Kat told me the toons must not be recognizable as my toons at all. To me, this seems unfair and way excessive. having to put out large amounts of actual cash in order to go play in a pvp tourney? Wow... and I really thought we had put the bitterness and out to get eachother attitudes behind us. But maybe Im taking this all wrong and its a rule designed to keep "all the pvpers with multiple accts from letting their FAMILY members that have every much as right to the accounts as they do, from cheating in this most devious way" |
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By admitting you pay for the accounts you are saying you loan them out (not a good idea to do by the way). The only time you can do this is if you are the parent or gardian of a minor child and you have payed for the account for them.
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Im nervous since my team has no experience playing together
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You know what I give rat butt if that a rule or not. If I want to let my girl,my son, my bird, my Kat, my mistress
I am. I think that rule was more towards those power lvl websites and to handle the issue about someone stole ur crap on your toons and you can't complain to get it back.
Im nervous since my team has no experience playing together
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First off, I think we can all agree that Klaw's account should not be used by anyone otherthan klaw.
However, I think Bud and Bud's nephew should both be able to participate. When I read the no-account sharing rule, I interpreted it as being a way to keep people from bringing in "ringers" or preventing people from playing for multiple teams. So long as Bud and his nephew are the only ones on the accounts, I don't see much of a problem. People are allowed to play whatever toons they want, so as long as the PLAYERS themselves do not change, there should be no problem. If Bud and his nephew are on ventrilo to prove that they are the ones playing, then who cares? If Bud plays a psi/em on the terminal bliss account and then plays a rad/psi on the cougar pride account, I don't see how that's any different than playing both the psi/em and the rad/psi on the same account. Seems like it'd be a pretty strange and ineffective way to cheat.
So, to wrap it up, as long as Bud and his nephew are the only ones playing the accounts I see no reason why they shouldn't be permitted.
Edit: I think it would also be very reasonable for certain accounts to just be designated to each player (i.e. Bud can play the terminal bliss and Budweiser accounts and his nephew can play the COUGAR PRIDE account)
Edit 2: Sorry if this is awkwardly worded, I just woke up
Ultimately, it's up to the PvPEC, and the team captains, so I think they should just have a vote.
I think if said person were to approach Kat in a mature manner, we prolly wouldn't be this far in discussion. Im not saying he did / did not, but Im not picking up a "did" vibe from the previous post.
Regardless, its Kat's call ultimately and since pvpec has to go by the game rules, it's probably a dead issue. Now if it wasn't said that Bud and company were sharing accounts on a public forum, this could have had a happy ending via mature communication and pm's.
I really don't care what accounts they use, just as long as they're not using the same characters.
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Seriously though, if Bud could just list his nephew's account on another line, list his accounts on the leader/player #1 line and go from there...
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TF to teh fase is OP.
16 accounts?
I'm not in this go around (all my Champion toons are for lvl 4 PvP) but for my 2 cents I think an exception may be warranted here.
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First off, I think we can all agree that Klaw's account should not be used by anyone otherthan klaw.
However, I think Bud and Bud's nephew should both be able to participate. When I read the no-account sharing rule, I interpreted it as being a way to keep people from bringing in "ringers" or preventing people from playing for multiple teams. So long as Bud and his nephew are the only ones on the accounts, I don't see much of a problem. People are allowed to play whatever toons they want, so as long as the PLAYERS themselves do not change, there should be no problem. If Bud and his nephew are on ventrilo to prove that they are the ones playing, then who cares? If Bud plays a psi/em on the terminal bliss account and then plays a rad/psi on the cougar pride account, I don't see how that's any different than playing both the psi/em and the rad/psi on the same account. Seems like it'd be a pretty strange and ineffective way to cheat. So, to wrap it up, as long as Bud and his nephew are the only ones playing the accounts I see no reason why they shouldn't be permitted. Edit: I think it would also be very reasonable for certain accounts to just be designated to each player (i.e. Bud can play the terminal bliss and Budweiser accounts and his nephew can play the COUGAR PRIDE account) Edit 2: Sorry if this is awkwardly worded, I just woke up Ultimately, it's up to the PvPEC, and the team captains, so I think they should just have a vote. |
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But I approched (as team captain for team 0utcazt), Kat on this very thing last night and was told there will be no exceptions made. So apparently a vote by 50% of the team Captains doesnt matter.
The only Solution for Cougar Pride to be able to use the @Terminal Bliss acct I have been provided is The changing of the global on the acct, Change Names and appearances of toons so they are no longer identifiable as my toons. Again, a very "costly" solution.
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why cant he be on his uncles account? their related, and theirs no cheating in it, all they are doing is making the league better by making it bigger, so why don't you just let them be on what ever account, because if you don't let them in, your losing 2 of the best pvpers on the sever.
Totally off-subject here, but I read your name as "Falafeltron" and thought it was the coolest forum name ever.
It's not possible for me to care any less about who plays what on whichever account on this team, but I'm just making sure I understand what the problem is here.
The issue seems to be that his globals were split under two players, so basically his nephew would be on the Cougar Pride account and the Bliss account depending on what was needed.
Also, champ3v3team.guildportal.com will be posting the schedules as well. There are forums available for you all to shoot the crap away from these forums, heh, and to discuss the games etc.
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