Which is the Most Populated Server?
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Captain-Electric,
Posted on: 2010-08-11 19:13 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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They're probably out there if you want them, I guess. But I'm on a PUG on Virtue pretty much every night, and it's been literally months since I saw somebody RP'ing on one beyond having a battle cry or just putting everything they say in (( )) (and not saying a thing in-character.) And I get away from Atlas Park and into the high-level zones as quick as I can. Virtue's probably the place to go if you want RP, but conversely, if you don't want to RP, you'll barely notice it unless you hang out in Pocket D or join a supergroup.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Electric
I don't want to derail the topic, but I want to correct this. RP PUGs have always been alive and well on Virtue. What I HAVE found to be true, increasingly over time, is that many of the more serious mission-running RPers are avoiding Atlas Park. RP PUGs are more commonly found among the 20-and-up zones (especially Talos Island), through Pocket D, and through the tried-and-true method of building up a global contact list of RPers (this last tactic is absolutely necessary in the Rogue Isles).
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
Personally I'm not a huge RPer, but I do enjoy concepts. I have always hanged out in Virtue because I enjoy teaming with people who put a little thought into their character and their bio, even if we don't RP with each other. Makes the game that much more immersive. :-)
I think random RP is uncommon, but I always see a lot of ((RP)) in bios, so I always assume it is done with friends, sg mates, etc.
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When we have a population in the billions in-game, they can rethink it. |
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
We live on Earth (well I do, you might live in another galaxy and just use your CoH account as a sockpuppet), but here on earth we've had four men in recent history all using the same name and right now they're ALL using the same name AT THE SAME TIME.
So the argument that a person's reputation is tied to their uniqueness in holding a name is weaker. |
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How many people named Michael are there in America? Where you live? Are they not all unique and beautiful snowflakes (Tyler Durden's theories to the contrary)?
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
When we have a population in the billions in-game, they can rethink it.
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Another poor example. People with the same names have been around...well, probably since people started using names probably, a long time that is for certain.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
How many people named Michael are there in America? Where you live? Are they not all unique and beautiful snowflakes (Tyler Durden's theories to the contrary)?
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CoH didn't start that way and people got attached to the uniqueness. To change now wouldn't be pretty IMO.
Anyhow, if they merge, if they change naming is really pointless since there is nothing hinted or on the rumor horizon to indicate they will be happening. This will just turn into the many other threads on these topics.
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Take away my servers for your red side healer? Um, no don't take away my servers devs. mmkthnx
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Originally Posted by MidKnight
Ok, I've played this game since beta. I like this game, no complaints, but I am starting to have a really hard time finding teams on my server. I like red side, so there are even FEWER people. I literally see the same 7 people every day, and if those teams fill up I am out of luck. I generally play healers, so this is critical to my survival and enjoyment of the game.
I just wondered if there was any data about the amount of heroes and villains per server so I can where to go for this transfer I get on the 17th. Would love ANY help to make sure I don't spend the next 5 months crying, party-less under Recluse. Also suggestion for devs-- I know it's complicated, I know you guys know what you're doing, but maybe if you take away three or four servers teams would be easier to find.  <3 |
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
as everyone has saod freedom and Virtue. I have been on both never found much rp on freedom but there is always a ton of PUGs
I will dissagree with any inuendo rp is dead on virtue. You can ALWAYS find rp on virtue in pocket D 2nd floor blueside. If noone is there just wait idle a bit. (especially if its 2 or 3 in the morning or right after a server downtime) And the D is full of serious rp SGs. just watch if you see a sg/vg name a lot ask if they are recruiting.
Atlas people rp but often its the silly annoy people rp. But a lot of people go to atlas to advertize thier rpsg so it has merit..and costume contests. on villian side check out both cap and mercy for recruiting.
I have also seen rp in the RWZ , AE, and Chimeroa. things to look for is people with all the same sg name. (on virtue it may be a "event" and if you rp at them they may let you join.)
Even dead supergroups can be good to join if they have a good coalition list. say hi in the coalition chat every day see if similar people answer. (then join thier sg) I have accually found better rp through the coalition than the accual group on occation.
Also check out virtueverse as a lot of SGs advertize there.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
We live on Earth (well I do, you might live in another galaxy and just use your CoH account as a sockpuppet), but here on earth we've had four men in recent history all using the same name and right now they're ALL using the same name AT THE SAME TIME.
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And the Universe is vastly larger and more heavily populated than this one tiny little planet in the outer spiral arm of the Milky Way Galaxy. Which means there are uncounted duodecillions who have never encountered more than one Green Lantern and don't know more than one even exists.
Besides Green Lantern isn't even a super hero name. It's a job title they get when they join the law enforcement agency known as the Green Lantern Corps. They get called "green lantern" just like guys that join the police get called "officer".
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Because that is how you interpret it that is why you don't get it.|
Originally Posted by Akiru_NA
There's a difference between light and borderline empty. I'm also curious why anyone would dislike seeing other people while playing.
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People can transfer to another server if they don't like the one they are on.
I'm curious why people would want to lose the option of the other servers. See it works both ways.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Yes, there is. None of the servers are borderline empty.
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Originally Posted by Akiru_NA
There's a difference between light and borderline empty.
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Right. But on this one tiny little planet there are four super-heroes running around with the name Green Lantern and they have been on the evening news of this planet, so the people of THIS planet (where CoH takes place) know there are four.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
And the Universe is vastly larger and more heavily populated than this one tiny little planet in the outer spiral arm of the Milky Way Galaxy. Which means there are uncounted duodecillions who have never encountered more than one Green Lantern and don't know more than one even exists.
Besides Green Lantern isn't even a super hero name. It's a job title they get when they join the law enforcement agency known as the Green Lantern Corps. They get called "green lantern" just like guys that join the police get called "officer". |
I don't mean to be a xenoist, but I don't give a rat's patoot what the people of other planets know.
EDIT: And the "officer" thing just supports my point. Right now people don't have the ability to be the same if they want. They are FORCED to be unique. Where's the choice?
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
I don't think CoX exists in the DC universe.
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They aren't FORCED to be unique, just to have a unique name. If they want to join an organisation in game they can join a SUPERGROUP, where they can all wear the SAME UNIFORMS. And if they play enough as a group people will start calling them by their SG name just like people do to the Taxibots. You don't see people asking for Taxibot Jorge. Instead they just ask for the Taxibots.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
EDIT: And the "officer" thing just supports my point. Right now people don't have the ability to be the same if they want. They are FORCED to be unique. Where's the choice?
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Sometimes they even sing.
Oh where, or where has the Taxibot gone . . .
Oh where, oh where can he be?
I need a teleport from one end of the zone to the other.
Oh where can the Taxibot be . . .
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Ah but does DC comics exist in the CoX universe? One of my characters is a mutant, who grew up reading Green Lantern comics and when she started firing radiation blasts from her hands she wanted to be like her imaginary hero!
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Originally Posted by Emberly
I don't think CoX exists in the DC universe.
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OK, but why force the unique name. Why are you so opposed to people being able to choose conformity for themselves? Don't you think that's rather selfish. I mean you don't see me here saying you shouldn't be able to come up with a cool name and concept that no one else is using right now.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
They aren't FORCED to be unique, just to have a unique name.
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The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
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Asked and answered previously in this thread and in every other thread dealing with the naming issue.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
OK, but why force the unique name. Why are you so opposed to people being able to choose conformity for themselves?
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| Don't you think that's rather selfish. |
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You don't know how many times and on how many issues people have stated something to this effect just to see the devs come around to my view. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I love the devs for not compromising on this issue. Deal with it.
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Personally, I don't care one way or another, but you folks get so up in arms, it's highly entertaining arguing with you.
EDIT: I would suggest to anyone arguing any point on the boards, do not use the devs' CURRENT view as a point in your favor. They can and do change their minds quite often. The market merger being one of the most current and spectacular recent examples.
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
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Posi's blog has been on the name issue but it would seem to me that with the current game setup non-unique names by server would require an awful lot of changes only providing a benefit to people who want names other people already have.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
You don't know how many times and on how many issues people have stated something to this effect just to see the devs come around to my view.
Personally, I don't care one way or another, but you folks get so up in arms, it's highly entertaining arguing with you. EDIT: I would suggest to anyone arguing any point on the boards, do not use the devs' CURRENT view as a point in your favor. They can and do change their minds quite often. The market merger being one of the most current and spectacular recent examples. |
So if I were in charge I'd be weighing the effort plus alienation of those who want unique names against people who don't want unique names.
So people need to ask themselves if they think there are enough people who want unique names to go away to offset the people who want to keep unique names and offset the amount of effort it would take to make that change after over 6 years of the game being live.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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The unique name thing is almost a red herring compared to the real benefit of an unified game. I've always been intrigued by the idea of a single shard game. I don't know how the heck they would do it here though.|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
Posi's blog has been on the name issue but it would seem to me that with the current game setup non-unique names by server would require an awful lot of changes only providing a benefit to people who want names other people already have.
So if I were in charge I'd be weighing the effort plus alienation of those who want unique names against people who don't want unique names. So people need to ask themselves if they think there are enough people who want unique names to go away to offset the people who want to keep unique names and offset the amount of effort it would take to make that change after over 6 years of the game being live. |
I don't think the name thing would be as big a deal as figuring out what to do with folks who have 234 alts or whatever.
For my money, a cross-server TFs or ten would be just as good.
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
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I wouldn't mind losing my unique names if the benefit was the ability to play without the current 11 servers' setup. I would mind if it was because they merged servers to satisfy people who won't take advantage of server transfers to get off the low pop servers.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
The unique name thing is almost a red herring compared to the real benefit of an unified game. I've always been intrigued by the idea of a single shard game. I don't know how the heck they would do it here though.
I don't think the name thing would be as big a deal as figuring out what to do with folks who have 234 alts or whatever. For my money, a cross-server TFs or ten would be just as good. |
I suppose they could always laugh at us (with hundreds of alts) like Nelson on the Simpsons and tell us to purge our rolls down to 100 or so.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Nothing I can do to stop the devs from changing their minds except tell them I support the current naming setup. I'm not going to quit in a nerdrage if it were to happen.|
Originally Posted by EvilGeko
You don't know how many times and on how many issues people have stated something to this effect just to see the devs come around to my view.
Personally, I don't care one way or another, but you folks get so up in arms, it's highly entertaining arguing with you. EDIT: I would suggest to anyone arguing any point on the boards, do not use the devs' CURRENT view as a point in your favor. They can and do change their minds quite often. The market merger being one of the most current and spectacular recent examples. |
And to be honest I'm not worried about losing any of my characters uniqueness because even after 6 years I can count the number of times I didn't get my first choice for a name on one hand.
If in the future the devs change their minds and decide to do away with unique naming I hope they have the sense to make whatever moniker they use invisible to the players. We already have tools that let us spot different players, like the color name feature in the chat box. So if we saw this . . .
EvilGeko: Blah blah blah.
EvilGeko: Blah?
EvilGeko: Blah blah ;P.
It's obvious that they are three different players.
So there's reason we should ever see EvilGeko@thisnamelooksstupid.
Oh and I'd just like to point out that the devs never changed their minds on merging the markets. They always said it was something they would like to do but had reasons for not doing it. We just didn't agree with their reasons for delaying it.
There are very few things they have flat out said would never happen and to date they have not changed their minds on any of them.
There is a huge world of difference between the devs saying things like "We'd like to but can't right now", "It would take a lot of time and resources that we don't have right now", or "We're looking into it" and "No."
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They most certainly did state, and emphatically so, that they didn't want to merge the markets.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Oh and I'd just like to point out that the devs never changed their minds on merging the markets. They always said it was something they would like to do but had reasons for not doing it. We just didn't agree with their reasons for delaying it.
There are very few things they have flat out said would never happen and to date they have not changed their minds on any of them. There is a huge world of difference between the devs saying things like "We'd like to but can't right now", "It would take a lot of time and resources that we don't have right now", or "We're looking into it" and "No." |
Positron first stated that madness that they couldn't merge the markets because heroes had more inf than villains as if that were even remotely relevant to the issue.
Later he discussed mythical "issues" which came up that precluded them. I even saved a link there:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...52#post2741652
That all said, I agree with you if they ever did a merge that allowed non-unique names that they come up with something besides EvilGeko@thisnamelooksstupid.
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
That link doesn't seem to go anywhere...
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Maybe this one. |
Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
That link doesn't seem to go anywhere...
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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...52#post2741652
It's on page 9 of this post:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=215504
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.
If someone else decides to use their name then that is completely different. We all know the lengths Marvel goes to to make sure that their character's names are not used elsewhere.
I realise we don't technically own names in CoH, but we do adhere to a system where once you pick a name that name is yours and no one else can use it on that particular server. It gives you an identity and some uniqueness in that CoH world. Even other, non-superhero games allow you that small pleasure. The whole naming convention of champions is just one of many flaws that should never be emulated elsewhere and to my knowledge, it never has been.