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http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...48#post3067848

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*sighs* I only hope that you can earn them while doing the same content as other currency, and that it doesn't replace them. If it's for certain mobs or only certain content, that's not a good feature at all (I hate it with Vanguard merits). I don't care how good the rewards are, I'm not wanting to keep track of and earn a separate currency that much.

And if it's a "choose this merit or that" option for task forces, it's a terrible idea. It makes the game more annoying to keep track of, and smacks of a timesink philosophy.

I only hope it's not that bad. *sighs*


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My concern/whine: I had planned to making all characters vig/rogues, just to open up the number of characters/number of task forces each can do. Now this. Bah.

Also concerned about a new market/mechanism for manipulating the markets. Still annoyed that you can buy crap w/ AE.


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Why? Supply is supply, so I'm not sure why it matters to you how people are getting it. There were idiots that were not using AE tickets to get salvage that they needed at first, but I think that has evened itself out (we don't have the supply issues for salvage anymore).

You can just see this as getting benefits for doing one thing or another. If you want a middle status, those guys can run any content in the game and get the regular merits that way. And as Ghost Falcon confirmed with another post, you can sideswitch, reaffirm your status as a "pure" villain or hero, and get these alignment merits.

The only thing I worry about I mentioned before. Having to choose these merits over one of the other many rewards in game. If that is the way it's set up, this isn't a bonus to my mind, just another added currency to keep track of, and annoying for that.


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Yeah, but AE allows another way for people to manipulate the economy/supply.

As you said, however, I think this might be worse.

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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster View Post
My concern/whine: I had planned to making all characters vig/rogues, just to open up the number of characters/number of task forces each can do. Now this. Bah.
Without this incentive there is a no non-RP/concept reason for everyone not to do this.

As I understood it, you would get these mysterious Hero and Villain merits by playing the game as a Hero or Villain, not for any specific content.


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Without this incentive there is a no non-RP/concept reason for everyone not to do this.

As I understood it, you would get these mysterious Hero and Villain merits by playing the game as a Hero or Villain, not for any specific content.
Very interesting is all I got to say...

Anyhow, I agree MG. After seeing all the should I stay hero/villain or just park rogue/vigilante threads or just bring all to blue, and it could have been just me, I saw a lot of people trying to find that "optimal point" so that they can enjoy the most content.

Adding this feature will give pause to a lot of people's plan IMO.

And I was never planning on taking all my toons to one side, maybe one or two of them just to try the content out.


 

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I have enough characters that it doesn't matter all that much to me. If it's villainside, I have villains that can run it, and same for my heroes. Though I may put a couple in the middle for fun. It may be nice to have certain ATs on other sides of the fence, I'll admit (I'll probably run a few Corruptors since Defenders just annoy me, I'll finally give a Brute a try blueside, etc.).

Anyway, I hope it evens out fairly well no matter what you choose to do. Giving options is the best way to go with this. I'm just nervous that they may or may not go with this, even though the overall idea of Going Rogue seems to be giving us options.


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You are both technically wrong and not-quite-right-but-kind-of-close both in total scope and, more importantly, in specific details given in the link you provide.

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You literally can't argue with that.

Bravo.


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He knows I never, ever, ever look at anything he links to. *shrug*


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I'm glad I haven't played much this summer.

With every new piece of info that comes out it looks like it's best to wait until GR/I18 to do anything in game.


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the salvage from AE is still a crappy argument. What of those of us who don't actually enter that building? ever? Since other people do, and get salvage that way, now I'm practically forced to, or I'll otherwise have to slow-buy or high-bid all the salvage I need.

I hate AE. It's cool and all, but I still would prefer it to be completely separated from general gameplay.

aside from that...
This pure-merit thing just looks like a reward for those who don't switch. Switchers get more access to more content (thus resulting in more stuff {IOs, salvage, etc}), so those with less access get more stuff to stay up to par with those who don't.
t's an in-addition-to thing, not another have 3, keep 1.


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You literally can't argue with that.

Bravo.
This week is insane enough already, why not have a silly Hamster picture to go with it?

I'm not sure what is worse... that he linked to that, or that someone actually created that picture. Go, go Chewbacca on a squirrel fighting Nazis! Everyone hates Nazis!


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So does this count for Godwin's law?


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the salvage from AE is still a crappy argument. What of those of us who don't actually enter that building? ever? Since other people do, and get salvage that way, now I'm practically forced to, or I'll otherwise have to slow-buy or high-bid all the salvage I need.
Ele... this doesn't make sense. You get salvage drops from doing non-AE content (heck, you can for some AE missions as well), so what does it matter? You get stuff for playing, simple as that. No need to get annoyed at another part of the game you don't touch for that.

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So does this count for Godwin's law?
Pretty sure Ham is Godwin's Law. Not sure what that means, but it is Hammy-related, after all.


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Ele... this doesn't make sense. You get salvage drops from doing non-AE content (heck, you can for some AE missions as well), so what does it matter? You get stuff for playing, simple as that. No need to get annoyed at another part of the game you don't touch for that.
Pretty sure he was referring to the fact that even though rare salvage prices are pretty normalized, they're still pretty much always VERY much cheaper to buy them with tickets, with ticket drop rates vs rare salvage/inf drop rates anyways. At least it sure as hell feels that way to me.


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I am curious to see what the merge does to salvage prices (after the initial insanity, of course). I've always liked crafting redside more, as the supplies for salvage were always better/cheaper.

I'm not sure which is better, either. Though it is nice to pick the thing you're wanting. Hopefully the new alignment merits will be nice in that regard for Purples.


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I'll probably run a few Corruptors since Defenders just annoy me
Not sure if it would really change your mind. Personally, when I think of my Corruptor as something Blaster like I'm massively disappointed. If I think of them like a Defender then I enjoy using them. It could be an issue of powerset choice. I prefer debuffing the enemy more than buffing my team.


 

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Now somewhere in this there is logic. Somewhere.


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Now somewhere in this there is logic. Somewhere.

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Some people just lag behind the times.


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