Making money on WW

What items, on the blueside, are actually worth buying as recipes, crafting it and selling it as an enhancement? I can't find any that would be of great profit (5 million or more)! Thanks for the help. And yes, I saw fury's guide.

in all honesty I doubt any1 will give u any potential niches, if too many people crowd one area it becomes less profitable...I'll give u some tips tho, explore the market and play around w/ mids

toying around with whatever popular fotm build on mids can help find very potential niches...

These niches may go away for a week or two now that I'm calling them out:
Level 40 miracle and decimation yellows. I was getting a straight 6 million each on level 30 Karma KB protections. There were one or two level 50 Thunderstrikes, look for the ones with relatively few crafted for sale, where I could buy the recipe for less than the crafting cost, sell the final product for 6 or 8 million. I did at one point overlap a little on the Doctored Wounds, it turns out. Oddly, whenever I went to the "buy for 40 mil/sell for 60 mil" I had trouble, but I did find a couple "buy for a 1-3 mil, buy salvage for 3 mil, sell for 20 mil" niches. I even found a couple "buy for 5 mil, buy salvage for 3 mil, list for 31, sell for 40 mil" items, but I didn't sell a LOT at those prices. (I don't remember what they were. Orange recipes, took an expensive rare salvage, one of the B-list sets like Miracle or Devastation.)

So that's how I went from a million to 300 million on my latest marketeer. Start by flipping one or two at a time, then once you work up to 10 million two or three, and so forth.

The important thing is to find something where the last 5 sales are in the last day or two. And if you overlist and it doesn't sell, relist it lower. Don't let the pride make you dumb.

niches come and go

I recommend playing with Mids' so you learn which IOs are useful. Then when you get one of those recipes and see that it's not priced as high as you would expect you realize the profit potential.

The best way to find a niche is to do some active studying and field research. Fortunetly the game has a fun way of doing just that! And here is how it goes:

1. If you have a toon level 30 or higher, run enough AE missions that net you about 1000 tickets. Heck you can even score big at level 10! with bronze rolls in that range, but pre stamina is yucky to me.
2. Roll 30-34 bronze random rolls to get rid of all your tickets.
3. Take em all to the market. Drop them each into the market and click the find button. If you see 0 bids and more than 10 all selling for 10k or less probably safe to vendor or delete, but best to check what the crafted piece goes for.
4. If it sells for more than the crafting + salvage cost + slot profit value (figure around 500k or more) then may as well go ahead and craft it and post it at the going rate.
5. Wait a few days and see what sells.
6. If you liked doing AE missions go back to step 1. and enjoy the game (make sure you run some non farm AE missions!) else...
7. Note what sold and start bidding for those same recipies at lowball prices especially for ones that dont have any bids yet. Goto step 4.

Once you get setup you will want to run multiple toons. One for running AE missions and get new tickets and selling, one for bidding on new stuff to craft.

Many ways to make inf on the market. Since you mentioned a 5 million+ profit, look at the big ticket items: purples, LoTG's, Kinetic Combats, Numina's..

or take a sneakier approach: Look at the sets that you would like to have on your toon (doesnt really matter which one) then place low bids (in sets of 10) on them. then SLOWLY place them on the market. Having loads of IO's for sale will drive the bids down. An example: bid 55,559 inf on level 50 Doctored Wounds Recharge (a stack of ten of them) then log of, or go 'arrest" some bad guys. if/when that order is filled, craft them and list them.

Level 40 Miracle Heals were insane redside a few weeks back, recipes selling at 30 million and crafted IOs at 90 million or something.

I spotted this because I got a recipe drop, and decided just for once to craft it, with that mark-up.

It got me thinking why is this piece so expensive?
Well, if you stick the Miracle +Recovery IO in Health you can then replace one of the Heal Ios in there with this pice to score an extra +2% Recovery.
If you're doing this, you;'re obviously loaded anyway because you can afford the Miracle unique, it goes ina power almost everyone takes regardless of archetype, and almost everyone could do with a bit more recovery.

So yeah, thats a good place to start looking. What can everyone use to boost pretty much any high end build?
I used to craft low level Performance Shifter +End procs (<25 means cheap salvage). Same applies there I guess, if you take Stamina and have a free slot, you'll like it.

You can make insane amounts of influence with the correct amount of patience. And it varies depending on if you are talking black market vs WW. In a month and a half, this becomes moot though. I don't even wanna speculate on how the merged markets will be like in the first few days of GR. I imagine some players will try and take advantage of knee-jerk buyers. I will be one of those if i can get in on the action soon enough

But for the time up to GR, here are a few to at least try. Do NOT expect quick returns. it takes time. Especially redside. Efficacy adapter:end mod, Titanium coating:any, crushing impact:triples, Thunderstrike:triples, touch of death acc/dam... that is just a few. Someone else in this thread mentioned a few others that i have tried and made some serious inf. Just to give you an idea, i was at 400million on my main redside and after a few months of working the BM, i had 1.7 Billion. I not once played that toon on a tf or any other mission. the 1.3 billion was made purely on BM profits in a few short months. So if the OP wants to make some inf with the markets, it is certainly possible. good luck.

SJ

I've had a great amount of success buying Touch of the Nictus and Thunderstrike recipes, crafting, then selling. I do it sparingly though. I've rarely needed much more Influence than I make from drops and random Merit rolls. But I can almost always count on those two niches if I need a quick influx of cash.

Bah. Wrong thread.

A couple of months or so ago, I was looking for a Set IO niche for one of my mostly retired character to work in between my shifting him around for Day Jobs. He hadn't been generating any income for a while ever since I got the basic Common IOs memorized. I was considering the 2 level 50 Taunt Sets. There's not a lot of action on them, but they seemed to be moving. Some pieces were only selling for 1 million Inf, though, so they weren't worth a lot. In my indecision, I decided to procrastinate about it. But still, just to do something, I decided to place really low bids on the crafted IOs for kicks.

So every few days, I would make my rounds on all of my characters to check Day Job status (I don't keep a spreadsheet like others) and check if anything happened in the Markets. With this one, I find that he's snagging several Taunt IO pieces every time I check him. It's like the Taunt Sets have no respect and people are just crafting and dumping them. Well, I put them right back on sale at somewhat-below "going rate" and next time I come around, they're sold anyway.

If you see a sale at 56,789 Inf, that was me buying it. And, depending on the piece, I'm selling them back between 1-8 million Inf. I've got a few pieces that haven't moved in a couple of weeks, but hey, for what I've paid for them, I have no concerns about waiting them out or deleting them. I didn't make a note of how much Inf I started with, but I'd estimate that I'm probably up close to 100 million over the past couple of months without any effort and because of a whim.

I'll concur that its easy to make money redside. Many niches go unexploited as in nobody crafts them. Then the buy it NAO! crowd drives the crafted IO price up to whatever is 10M above the highest listed one and you'll see like 44 bids and 0 avail with last 5 sales for like 30M 30M 22M 31M 40M. Then you go to the recipe and there is like 10 of them available with maybe 7 lowball bids (or not sometimes) and the last sales are all under 1M (100k in one case).

So how do you handle this? You buy all the recipes which are selling for under like 3M, craft them all....list for 2/3 of the 30M avg (20M) and often you'll see an instant sale or 2 for like 30M.

I did this recently with one IO and someone had typo'ed and left the standing bid and boom.....300M autosale.

Just examine the recipes you pop as you get them and you'll have a hard time NOT finding something profitable that nobody else wants at that moment.

I recently dropped my thunderstrike crafting from an alt cause the profit per craft dropped below 3M and I found something nicer....but I was still running stacks of 10 on thunderstrikes and selling them all out in 3 days or so netting 22-26M total when I dropped it.

I'm not a fool though and won't give up what I'm crafting atm

One thing that I like to do and I'm sure many others do as well is what I call 1 will get you 999,999. Just add a single 1 to the end of any 1,000,000 (or higher) sale price. Often when someone is hungry for an IO that costs, say, 5,000,000 they will make their next bid 6,000,000 instead of a smaller increment. This works best if you are the only one selling. But it will also work at other times.

As well bid 1 more if, for instance, your 5,000,000 bid isn't accepted.

This is obvious to anyone that plays the market for any length of time. You get to know what the traffic will bear. And often you don't get a quick turn-around. This is just like a real market. Patience is a virtue.

Otherwise buy low sell high.

Good luck.