Yeah, that's 'bout a year old, iBud.
There's quite a few remarks across the board 'bout his research and how he went 'bout it and how horribly flawed it is.
Take it for what it's worth.
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Yeah I mean the article conveniently left out that he wasnt beating people, in addition to the fact that he was a doucher outside of droning people. It's pretty lame that he was being paid to "figure out" that if youre a ******, people wont like you.
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OK! Did anybody actually read this? I actually find it very interesting! It's really intriguing to look into "our" server and see what rules we have created based on moralities, ethics, etc. versus what the "actual" rules of the game are. I think in the end it just showed that maybe we aren't the only "drama" server and that in fact we all can be complete udder butt nuggets from time to time. I would be totally interested to read more about his observations from the study. I think we all could learn something from it!
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Yeah I mean the article conveniently left out that he wasnt beating people, in addition to the fact that he was a doucher outside of droning people. It's pretty lame that he was being paid to "figure out" that if youre a ******, people wont like you.
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The only thing to "learn" from it is that if you act like a dill hole long enough, you'll get treated like one, and will bait people to do similar in return, much like in RL.
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OK! Did anybody actually read this? I actually find it very interesting! It's really intriguing to look into "our" server and see what rules we have created based on moralities, ethics, etc. versus what the "actual" rules of the game are. I think in the end it just showed that maybe we aren't the only "drama" server and that in fact we all can be complete udder butt nuggets from time to time. I would be totally interested to read more about his observations from the study. I think we all could learn something from it!
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Everything you've said about in-game moralities and ethics I agree with. That stuff is really fascinating.
The problem is that he didn't really do an experiment (even in the loosest sense of the word) to explore any of those phenomenae. He was a tool in PvP zones and then thought it'd be awfully clever to say it was just research.
His findings were that if you're a total doosh (relevant link), people respond negatively to you. Shock, horror, stop the presses.
The ways in which people interact with one another in online games and how that differs from RL is something that interests me a lot personally. But this was not a study of that, it was a farce.
Then again I also think that wanting to physically harm him, let alone kill him, is absurd.
Droning people in a pvp zone and cutting peoples ears off in a war zone are not exactly comparable, Force. They're both offensive actions that can be taken under the guise of "hur hur its not explicitly against the rules" but they're hardly in the same league.
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The problem is that he didn't really do an experiment (even in the loosest sense of the word) to explore any of those phenomenae. He was a tool in PvP zones and then thought it'd be awfully clever to say it was just research.
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I pretty much posted the same thing when I first heard about it. The subject matter has the potential to be interesting. However, in order to come to any sort of conclusion, in order to make his observations meaningful, he should have set up an experiment. Otherwise, it's just a story about a professor who played CoH and got a rise out of other players. Just because he happens to be a professor does not automatically make his leisure activity research.
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Agreed....also folks in game know they can get away with some distasteful behavior becuase they can and becuase they don't have to face the person. I guarentee that if someone was being out right mean to someone in game they would'nt do it in RL. The guy who wrote this obviously knew how to push people the right way and get results. Reminds me of one individual in the past. However I truly believe folks in this server only want what's best for everyone else and to be involved but just like any huge family toes get stepped on once in a while.
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OK! Did anybody actually read this? I actually find it very interesting! It's really intriguing to look into "our" server and see what rules we have created based on moralities, ethics, etc. versus what the "actual" rules of the game are. I think in the end it just showed that maybe we aren't the only "drama" server and that in fact we all can be complete udder butt nuggets from time to time. I would be totally interested to read more about his observations from the study. I think we all could learn something from it!
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The fact people threatened his actual life is silly! I think when I read that I thought... I don't care how big of a "******" he is I would never threaten somebody's life. That DOES shine people in bad light! Like Amy said... it is very true his research was not sound and his procedures not completely in place and standard but... what he was looking at was actually playing the game by the actual rules instead of by the community rules, although I would sound off and say morals, ethics, etc. always play a role in the rules of research which do seem to have been possibly neglected. I think however that game rules vs. community rules is a very interesting topic. I'll hafta get Ashcraft on that one! He'd write it up much better.
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Agreed....also folks in game know they can get away with some distasteful behavior becuase they can and becuase they don't have to face the person. I guarentee that if someone was being out right mean to someone in game they would'nt do it in RL. The guy who wrote this obviously knew how to push people the right way and get results. Reminds me of one individual in the past. However I truly believe folks in this server only want what's best for everyone else and to be involved but just like any huge family toes get stepped on once in a while.
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The fact people threatened his actual life is silly! I think when I read that I thought... I don't care how big of a "******" he is I would never threaten somebody's life. That DOES shine people in bad light! Like Amy said... it is very true his research was not sound and his procedures not completely in place and standard but... what he was looking at was actually playing the game by the actual rules instead of by the community rules, although I would sound off and say morals, ethics, etc. always play a role in the rules of research which do seem to have been possibly neglected. I think however that game rules vs. community rules is a very interesting topic. I'll hafta get Ashcraft on that one! He'd write it up much better.
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The whole article sounds like a grad student who need to suck his way into a reference succeeded with the use of Microsoft's thesaurus and a 5th grade writing level.
That being said, this guy was a pain to deal with in zones; however, regardless of what actions he took, he followed a complete and legitimate way that so, so, SO many people do. He just condensed it down to his single scrapper. Lots of people drone, even more people talk crap on broadcast, and most people in zones are left feeling cheated already.
Was this a good dissertation for his study? No, not really. But sadly he'll publish it within Loyola, keep making his (assisted prof/prof) salary. If you can do it playing a video game, then by all means follow in his footsteps.
Social Science majors are weirdos anyway.
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He tried to make observations on a subgroup by experimentation. His experiments proved that if you continuously piss people off, people will be pissed off. It was written in a way to make it seem like the reactions people had were exclusive to online-gamers, but its not.
As soon as he started to interact with online-gamers by annoying them, he broke whatever is "natural" for online-gamers and turned any reaction they have into something forced. So any threats made against him weren't for no reason, it was because he was digging for them. He wanted those threats so he can have something to write about, twist it, and make it seem like something specific to City of Heroes.
Try continuously cutting the same guy off on the road and that guy will have a similar angry reaction.
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He tried to make observations on a subgroup by experimentation. His experiments proved that if you continuously piss people off, people will be pissed off. It was written in a way to make it seem like the reactions people had were exclusive to online-gamers, but its not.
As soon as he started to interact with online-gamers by annoying them, he broke whatever is "natural" for online-gamers and turned any reaction they have into something forced. So any threats made against him weren't for no reason, it was because he was digging for them. He wanted those threats so he can have something to write about, twist it, and make it seem like something specific to City of Heroes. Try continuously cutting the same guy off on the road and that guy will have a similar angry reaction. |
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I think he got busted playing at work on the school computers too much and let other work priorities slide. He didnt want to go to CoX anonymous and tried to justify his playing by writing a crappy report and calling it research about how people are "cox" when playing CoX.
This guy probably believes in the Tyranny of Choice too.
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Ahhh, the whole publish or perish dilemma... Fan-boy grew up reading comix, then realized that those who can't "do", they teach. As per the factual basis of his l33tnezz, feh. If a bunch of red's want you face-planted, you'd stay face-planted. Playing on a dead server at 4AM or during other people's work/school time doesn't lend credibility to the pwnage of the game... Entitled educators and the self perception of their grandeur doesn't really cut it if you have to actually work for a living. Who does he think he is, Lord Stryker?
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I know that this thing is old news, but back when it was current I showed it to a professor of mine (a Psychology professor), who said in response to his "research," "Harrumph." She said something else along the lines of his research being, at most, a decent excuse for some paid vacation time.
The way he guided people to write the articles about his activities (emphasising how awesomely he played and how totally innocent he was of doing anything more than "following the rules") convinced me that his actual purpose was simply to stick it to the community who fought against him.
People posted lots of the things he actually said in RV over the two years he terrorized it - a lot of it was abuse and baiting that went way beyond just playing the zone.
The most odd thing about this episode was when players confronted him directly on comments pages relating to his articles. He had no workable defence against the specific points raised against him and strangely reverted straight back into the monosyllabic, obtuse and bizarre Twixt that inhabited RV. It was like the Professor was the character and Twixt was the real guy.
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All I know is that someone needs to challenge this guy to a fight in a Wendy's parking lot. It's the only way to be sure.
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A very interestin' read.
Its been out for a while so some of yous may have already seen this but its new to me.
My thoughts?
Well, as I see it he kinda deserves what he got, apart from someone postin' his identity and address ona third party forum, which is pretty messed up, IMO.
But if you are goin' to go against a communities rules and be a down-right c**t then you deserve what you get.
Though it does sound like he was playin' on Freedum (wild guess) so its kinda expected from those peoples.
Dronin' people is not cool, its funny... if it doesn't happen to you but otherwise its very uncool.
Why couldn't he have done his lil' bit of "research" ona different game? Why'd he have to show CoX ina negative light?
CoX's community is without a doubt the best community I have ever seen ona MMO. Sure, there are some d00shes but thats the way it is in all games and RL, also.
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