Total Respec


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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Old thought finally asking about it.

Played this for many years but my previous MMORPG experience was Star Wars Galaxies. Its crap I know but when you did a respec on it your could completely rebuild your character. Like if you were a Bounty Hunter you could change out all your skills and be a Merchant or Cook or whatever.

So when I got my first respec on this game long time ago, I was surprised that I couldn't change my Primary and Secondary Sets. What I mean by is being a MA and switching to Katana as my primary.

Has there ever been a discussion on why this route wasn't ever taken? Not sure how it could hurt the game if it was possible.


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O dear lords of Kobol. Can they please do something to the forums to make it auto-check for this question and just make it impossible to post? Please? Or something?


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Has there ever been a discussion on why this route wasn't ever taken? Not sure how it could hurt the game if it was possible.
Nope. It's a very original idea and certainly has not been brought up at least a couple hundred times in the past...

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O dear lords of Kobol. Can they please do something to the forums to make it auto-check for this question and just make it impossible to post? Please? Or something?
How about this just ignore it and don't waste your time reading it. Because frankly I find the search feature on here pathetic so if I have a question I ask and I don't care how often its been asked before.


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There are many, many reasons why the devs are unlikely to implement this sort of thing however I will limit myself to just giving you the response Positron gave when asked about it in the last Q&A.

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What is the chance of having a "wipe clean" respec for a toon to repick powers or Archtype. I have been told the reason is no heroes ever change their powers. I have to disagree on that. Superman Red/Blue or Guy Gardner and their are a lot more. A vetpwr?

Posi - The reason isn't that those characters don't, it's more that a complete overhaul invalidates a ton of work we've put into making the game alt-friendly.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
There are many, many reasons why the devs are unlikely to implement this sort of thing however I will limit myself to just giving you the response Positron gave when asked about it in the last Q&A.


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How about this just ignore it and don't waste your time reading it. Because frankly I find the search feature on here pathetic so if I have a question I ask and I don't care how often its been asked before.
Umm.. What's so hard about clicking Search, entering the keyword "respec", selecting Search Titles Only, then scrolling down and highlighting Suggestions & Ideas?

Took me a grand total of 5 seconds to find 29 other threads about respecs in Suggestions & Ideas just now.


 

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I got an answer from a helpful human being so I don't care.


Suriel- Scrapper MA/SR
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There are tons of reasons.

Posi's answer sums up one of them in inarguable terms, since it came from the head honcho himself.

Exploitability is another reason.

Super Reflexes and Shield Defense scrappers get really really powerful at high levels when they have all their powers, but both are kind of squishy while you're getting them there. If full respecs were allowed you could level up as a Katana/Willpower scrapper (which is a much easier character to play at low levels) and then switch over when you get to a level the set you want gets powerful at. Or level a Willpower tank and switch over to Stone so you can have Granite Armor without having to play the set through 32 levels of relative squishiness (for a tank at least).

A third reason: Just because you know how to play a scrapper at level 50 doesn't mean you automatically know how to play a corruptor at 50. It would create a lot of players with very little idea how to play their character, because they respecced into a different AT at 50 that they have little or no experience with. Even within ATs you'd have problems, an Ice Tank doesn't play like a Dark Armor tank. Just because you've played one does not mean you know how the other works, because you haven't spent the time learning it.


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BACK! Get back in your crypt you evil, rotting equine!

Suriel, please put down the bat, you'll only make it angry!


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I got an answer from a helpful human being so I don't care.
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Umm.. What's so hard about clicking Search, entering the keyword "respec", selecting Search Titles Only, then scrolling down and highlighting Suggestions & Ideas?


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You have a pet peeve. Your problem not his.
You're right.. It's totally a pet peeve of mine. Everyone else obviously enjoys seeing the same tired, old, dead-horse topics brought up over and over and over and over and over again, week after week.

I think I'll wander off now and go post a thread in the controller forum asking if anyone has any fire/kin builds... Maybe ask when the devs are merging the servers...


 

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BACK! Get back in your crypt you evil, rotting equine!

Suriel, please put down the bat, you'll only make it angry!


 

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I don't care how often its been asked before.
Then you have no right expecting anyone to care about your feelings when they respond to your posts. You get back what you give. So if you come here with an attitude your going to get it back in full measure.

Deal with it.


 

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First, Ultimo makes ANOTHER rant about the "need" to buff xyz regardless of his poor build choices.

Second, we get ANOTHER thread about how "unfair" vet rewards are.

Now, we get ANOTHER thread about respec'ing into new primaries/secondaries?

I've always been irritated by people who say "search next time", but seriously...search next time. Ugh. I said it. I feel dirty now. This...this makes me very sad.


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Then you have no right expecting anyone to care about your feelings when they respond to your posts. You get back what you give. So if you come here with an attitude your going to get it back in full measure.

Deal with it.
Not my attitude, I didn't start it. You should respond to a post politely or politely ignore it.


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Not my attitude, I didn't start it. You should respond to a post politely or politely ignore it.
1. Yes actually you did start it because you openly admitted that you have no regard for how often a suggestion has been discussed before posting, and you have no intention of using the search tools.

2. This is an open forum and you have no authority to dictate who posts in a thread you start nor what they choose to say. If you aren't mature enough to deal with criticism then you should refrain from posting till you grow up, or you should make use of the ignore feature the forums provide.


 

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Yeah, it is. Sadly, I can't claim credit for that one, but hey, I'm a Villain. Whatcha gonna do?


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Yeah, it is. Sadly, I can't claim credit for that one, but hey, I'm a Villain. Whatcha gonna do?
Wait... If you're a villain, shouldn't you be taking credit for it?


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1. Yes actually you did start it because you openly admitted that you have no regard for how often a suggestion has been discussed before posting, and you have no intention of using the search tools.

2. This is an open forum and you have no authority to dictate who posts in a thread you start nor what they choose to say. If you aren't mature enough to deal with criticism then you should refrain from posting till you grow up, or you should make use of the ignore feature the forums provide.
Guess you have selective memory but the post was attacked before I "reacted".

And as this is an open forum as you say you prove my arguement, I can post anything I want even if its a question asked a billion times and no one should be telling not to.


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Guess you have selective memory but the post was attacked before I "reacted".

And as this is an open forum as you say you prove my arguement, I can post anything I want even if its a question asked a billion times and no one should be telling not to.
Oh? Not even the mods? From the forum rules (also in the How to Search First sticky up top, which itself should tell you something by dint of it BEING a sticky) :

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That aside, no, you cannot "post anything you want to." You can post anything NCSoft and/or Paragon Studios decides to let stand. You cannot post porn or links to porn, for instance. (Well, you can, but you won't be doing it again on that account, and the post(s) will go bye bye.)


 

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Oh? Not even the mods? From the forum rules (also in the How to Search First sticky up top, which itself should tell you something by dint of it BEING a sticky) :
This. You don't really have a leg to stand on here.

'I don't have to use the search function'. Mods say otherwise. End of.


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.