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... but my Search-Fu is weak.

I have been going through thread after thread, post after post, trying to find where the exact system requirements are for Ultra Mode. I am casually looking at buying a new system and if I do invest in something, I want to play the game maxxed out in every category. I just can't find the info.

Could someone take pity on me and provide a link?


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There isn't a link that I've seen. There's been nothing more than guidelines.

I can tell you this, however:

You didn't give enough info to answer your question.

If you're planning to play at 1920X1200 resolution and expect 60+ FPS at all times, then the rig doesn't exist that can do it.

If you're ok with tweaked settings for maximum eyecandy and performance that fluctuates between 20FPS (this occurs during zone travel in some of the poorly slapped together redside zones) and capped 60FPS (turning off vertsync I've seen as high as 200FPS in door missions) due to vertical sync usage, then my current rig is doing fine.

I7-920 proc
ATI 5870 vid
6GB RAM
Win 7 64bit


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Well, yeah, basically I just want it to look as nice as possible. So when I say "maxxed" I simply mean being able to take full advantage of UM. I haven't really set a budget yet, but I want to pay the minimum to get the maximum. I don't want to pay $3000 for a powerhouse system to find out later that $1000 would have been more than enough.


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Originally Posted by Arnabas View Post
... but my Search-Fu is weak.

I have been going through thread after thread, post after post, trying to find where the exact system requirements are for Ultra Mode. I am casually looking at buying a new system and if I do invest in something, I want to play the game maxxed out in every category. I just can't find the info.

Could someone take pity on me and provide a link?
I'd say say just do a search for posts by me in the Technical Support section.

The minimum starting point for Ultra Mode graphics are
ATi: RadeonHD 4850
Nvidia: Geforce 9800 GTX / GTS 250

These cards can push Ultra-Mode in low detail at about 1680*1050 with most Socket AM2 Athlon64 / Phenom processors and most Intel Core 2 Duo processors.

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To run Ultra Mode maxed out, you really want to be looking at a RadeonHD 5770 or better.

Against a Socket AM3 Phenom 965 and an Intel I7 920 Engineering Sample the RadeonHD 5770 can drive 25~30 frames-per-second in most combat situations with all Ultra Mode Effects enabled.

There are various reasons why Nvidia cards aren't really an option right now... The short list on why you wouldn't want to buy an Nvidia card runs like this:

You would be getting price gouged on specifications.
Nvidia's end-of-lifed Geforce GTX series only supports DirectX 10 / OpenGL 3.0. The cheapest one, the GTX 260, starts at around $175. It's younger brother, the GTS 250 can be had for around $110 if you buy a cheap model. The one you'd actually want though, the fully ducted Evga often cited as the best non-BFG card... will set you back by about $130 for the 512mb model, and the 1gb model tops $155.

This $130 market though is where the RadeonHD 5750 can be picked up, and it offers OpenGL 4.0 / DirectX 11 support. You can get a fully ducted HIS 1gb 5750 for about the same price as a good GTS 250.

At the $170 mark you could pick up one of Asus's Copper Cooled 5770's with 1gb of video memory.
You would be getting price gouged for performance.
Both of the RadeonHD 57xx cards listed will scamper right past a GTX 260, and the $250+ GTX 275 for that matter. If you decided you didn't want DirectX 11 / OpenGL 4.0 support, there's still the massive problem of the super-clocked 4890... which can be had for a little over $200. With recent driver updates, the 4890 delivers frame-rates that can match those of the GTX 285... which costs nearly $150 more.

If you break the $300 mark, you could indeed pick up a Geforce GTX 470 for around $340. However, it's not actually any faster than the RadeonHD 5850's that can be had for around $50 less... and the Geforce uses up way more power and puts off way more heat.

If you're willing to part with even more money, the average selling price on a Geforce GTX 480 is around $500. However, it's not actually $100 faster than the $400 RadeonHD 5870... and again, you're going to need power supply with a higher wattage rating, and if you live in the Arctic Circle, your space heater needs have been solved.


 

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I have gathered the following:

The 5850 is cheaper than the 5870 by a margin that surpasses the difference in performance.

The I5 proc is just fine for this game because CHV doesn't really utilize more than two threads anyway.

I bet that with those 2 items, Win7 64 and 4-6GB of RAM, you'd be a happy camper.


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I run with full detail on characters, high detail on reflections, ultra detail on water, but only one pip up the slider on ambient occlusion on a 9600 GSO [beefed up 8800].


 

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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
I'd say say just do a search for posts by me in the Technical Support section.

The minimum starting point for Ultra Mode graphics are
ATi: RadeonHD 4850
Nvidia: Geforce 9800 GTX / GTS 25

These cards can push Ultra-Mode in low detail at about 1680*1050 with most Socket AM2 Athlon64 / Phenom processors and most Intel Core 2 Duo processors.
I can tell you for a fact that the minimum is lower than that. I'm running UM in about medium for occulsion, high for Reflections, world and character details on max, and shadows on Stenciled, and I've only got a NVIDIA 8800GT. I can only do 4x AA, though, otherwise I start getting choppy.

I was actually surprised. I didn't expect it to work at all. I don't run into problems with graphics lag except when first entering a big zone I need about 10 seconds for textures to load. Otherwise, it's been surprisingly good.

Of course, I also have a quad core processor, which might be helping as well.


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There is no exact system requirements for Ultra Mode, and no developer has come out and published details yet.

Any recently built PC comprising of latest hardware, a good amount of GHz and RAM. Along with a fairly recent graphics card. Will do the trick. (2.7GHz, 4gig RAM, GeForce GT 220) are my stats. And it allows me to run City of Heroes on ultra mode, at full settings. Even with ambient occlusion, reflections, world and character details all on maximum.


 

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Thanks everyone. SOme food for thought there.

Now to work out the price...


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I have a 8800 gtx or is it a gts 750mb cant remmeber but It runs COX with everything maxed out with no problems. Then that does not shock me because it runs games with more advanced graphics than COX maxed as well.


 

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Since I didn't see anyone posting it, for the record, here are the requirements from the NCsoft Knowledge Base:

Recommended PC "Ultra Mode" System Requirements:

  • OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP/Vista/7
  • Processor: Intel® or AMD Dual Core processor or higher
  • RAM: 4 GB RAM or more
  • Video: NVIDIA® GeForce 8 Series (or higher), ATI™ Radeon® HD 2000 Series (or higher)
  • Hard Drive Space: 6 GB Available HDD Space
  • Internet: Broadband
  • Input: Keyboard and Mouse


 

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WHAT?!?! You need a keyboard AND a mouse? What do they think I am, made of money?


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If you want minimum specs for max performance, I would say you need more than dual cores (or, shall we say more than 2 total threads). CoH will use 2 threads, and so, you want other threads available for the operating system and other processes running in the background that will not take away from the threads CoH is using.


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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
I'd say say just do a search for posts by me in the Technical Support section.

The minimum starting point for Ultra Mode graphics are
ATi: RadeonHD 4850
Nvidia: Geforce 9800 GTX / GTS 250

These cards can push Ultra-Mode in low detail at about 1680*1050 with most Socket AM2 Athlon64 / Phenom processors and most Intel Core 2 Duo processors.
I'd have to disagree with that, i have everything maxed out on a 4850 apart from Ambient Occlusion which doesn't get along with AA on Ati cards and i hate jaggies, rez is 1600x1200. Generally the FPS 30-50 with occasional dips to the low 20's, even on mission maps even in full teams with all level 50 powers flying around i've not seen it go below 30, it seems to be traveling through zones that will dip it down near 20. My CPU is overclocked up the wazoo so perhaps the new settings are more CPU intensive than people realize.

I'm sure some would find the FPS that im getting unacceptable, but im more than happy with it.


 

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This thread started by Positron was updated earlier this year. The posts near the end might be useful too because they say what people systems people are running. (I appreciate that the main focus of that thread is the gfx card.)





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