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U-Naught: I get the Dagger pattern and the "Shag" hairstyle but not much else from it... could be that I don't know your character well enough either though. One thought I had that might help would be, if that is the 50/50 facemask, putting a white circle for the eye cutout on the left and a blue circle for the eye on the right would make it more distinguishable.
Actually - I tried that originally, but pulled it out thinking that it was too detailed and un-needed.

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  • U-naught - iconic, heraldic. Makes a great logo. Not minimal yet. From the costume, I see dark grey top, white bottom, jagged element between. Or perhaps her essence is in her binary face / pale hair, and the costume varies. I had a similar problem with Airhead, and chose to minimize costume, ignoring his unusual face.
Yeah, the U-Naught character does have multiple costumes with variation, and two of them are male. The 50-50 face *IS* a constant, except that its different colors. (the character concept is that "U-Naught" is really a convergence of several different beings from across separate dimensions, sharing ONE existence - as only one can be present in Paragon at any given time) But I tend to think of the one who's image I posted as my "core" character look.
(I finally got a reference posted: http://u-naught.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2qtfy4 )

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Nice, CR - thanks.


 

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I'm probably not looking at this the same way as some of the others do. Part of my process is to figure out what represents that character the most, get that down the best I can, then add a slight touch - for interest. It doesn't always work out well - Caemgen's nose and wing, Synapse's shoulderpads, VexXxa's... well something in there. But sometimes I really like how they turn out - Fenian's lips, Sister Psyche's hair, Amerikatt's tail, Comrade Hero's mask. They might work just as well without them, but I personally like adding those little touches when I can.

The other part that I like to remember, is that this is a superhero game, and there are thousands upon thousands of different designs. It's important to not only make a minimal design, but make one that as uniquely as possible represent the character, and that character alone. That's why I have problems with Suichiro's Burnt Matchstick, Fenian, and VexXxa, as well as Airhead's Synapse (?). If you start at the character, you might be able to see the minimal, but when you start at the minimal, it's a lot harder to go to the character.

An of course, there's the caveat that there is no right or wrong way to do these, I just like writing my thoughts out loud so to speak.

And because I think I can barely make a post here without offering something new, or at least updated, here's a couple more reminimals - which are actually just me cropping the originals down to remove other details.



BTW, I really love seeing how different people bring their own flairs to these. Airhead and Suichiro really do their best to bring things down to the absolute bare minimum (and occasionally beyond in my opinion), I like to add an extra piece to the minimum (with mixed results) I also have a tendency to go for the half-face, and others like to add extra textures and whatnot to help accentuate the pieces - like Christopher Robin's.

Oh, and my 2nd collage with the signature heroes - the pink and purple one is Numina. It's the Freedom Phalanx, she is quite hard to do because she's not as well known, and doesn't have any significant feature that especially stands out.


 

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These are still cool and all.....



...but am I the only one who thinks a bit about South Park when seeing these? I could have sworn I saw a a Cartman in one of them on these pages.


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naw, not at all...






 

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Yeah, I don't think that we're ever going to see eye to eye on this. To me, once you start drawing the character, even in simple blocks, you've lost the point of doing a minimalist piece. To me, it's all about taking a non-human shape and making the audience realize that it's referencing one.

In that regard, I am unhappy with Sapphic's mini, but I don't see a way around it.


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Yeah, I don't think that we're ever going to see eye to eye on this.
Never say never.



(Though I think I've gone back to being less minimal as I've gone along)


 

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Black Scorpion, Westin Phipps?, GeeDubs


 

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that last set was easy bubba. none of my characters are all that recognizable, to the forum at least not like burnt matchstick neko for caem's cadre. So i think that it's perhaps more difficult to breakdown the characters to something simply recognizable when the characters themselves are not recognizable. this makes sense. i think.

changing the perspective from the front shot like many of the examples to a profile or focus on a peculiar aspect (babs fist) of any character may help with recognition. I kinda wanna play around with this, but i also want to play around so maybe tomorrow at work, if i don't bring mids with me.

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naw, not at all...

Oh my god! They... put eyeholes in Kenny's hood!

Awesome.



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This was a tough one to figure out. Not sure if it fully worked or not.


 

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Sorry for the late reply. Life's been... hectic since The Wife™ went back to work 2 weeks ago. Gotta readjust to that...

Anyway, this is an awesome concept and thread, Sui!! Mad props to you!! (Is, "mad props" still cool? Not that I really care... )


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Yeah, I just can't stop doing these... btw, if you like these, I'll happily take requests (I can also move to a new thread if you don't want me stealing your thunder, Suichiro). Link goes to DA page with answers if you don't recognize them.
O_O You minimized me!! Cool!! Thanks!!


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Savannah Nightwolf - I'm not sure if I've seen this hero. Anyone got a link?
I'd say I'm crushed, but as I mentioned at the start of this reply, I've been kinda absent lately...




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How many am I up to again? I lost count. Another retread


 

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[*] Thornster - I mentioned before, I like the hornstache (tm). Hornstache! With an "H". Doh.
I agree ... but I think it should be the Hornfu! Because CR mistook the "chin fur" for the other side of the mustache. Thorny actually has a Fu Manchu. I was actually trying to give my horns and fu a true side view but I think CR's slightly angled view makes for nicer horns and probably could pull off a very recongnizable Fu too!

BTW the "sun rays" in my last attempt, that CR reused, were actually inspired by Throw Thorns, that is why I had put them so far originally. That attempt wasn't in line with what is attempted here but more in line with what had inspired Suichiro originaly. But I do agree with Suichi that adding the name kind of defies the purpose of making something that should be recongnizable "by all".


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Starting to slow down on these, running out of ideas on who to do. Just another collage to show off today.


 

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Okay, I'll bite. This is a minimal effort, but the focus is on 'minimal effort' and not on 'minimal'. Been a long day.



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I think the color are off, i didn't have a reference handy...and was too lazy to look one up. You should still be able to figure it out.


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I know what it is, but I want to say it's Arbiter Fabulous~


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I don't think he would mind.


 

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Okay, I'll bite. This is a minimal effort, but the focus is on 'minimal effort' and not on 'minimal'. Been a long day.



Finally got it....it's a teddy bear with stitches!


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Finally got it....it's a teddy bear with stitches!
Species-wise, you might be right! Although I'm not sure if teddy bears have toenails. It's meant to be the big guy up real close, player-eye view. Maybe it needs toe jam.



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Species-wise, you might be right! Although I'm not sure if teddy bears have toenails. It's meant to be the big guy up real close, player-eye view. Maybe it needs toe jam.
So, it's Jack?

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Not Jack, he's more pink. Looks like my minimal is an epic fail. It's the big ol' Dark Astoria giant monster.



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Not Jack, he's more pink. Looks like my minimal is an epic fail. It's the big ol' Dark Astoria giant monster.

Adamastor? Yeah, it took me a while to figure out that those were, I'm guessing, two toes with the toe nails(?) I was thinking that looked like some stitches. Not positive I'm correct on this, but I think the thing that threw me, for one, was I was trying to make out a part of a face or an emblem or something.

But good on ya for trying something like this with that tough a subject!

I think maybe the fiery eyes might be the thing that would do it...


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