The strongest I'd probably say would be Dark/Invul as it has good resistance, defenses, a +hp buff, and with dark a self heal.
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It's very difficult to kill, particularly in its element (surrounded by smashing/lethal enemies), but Dark/Invuln won't do a lot of damage. Burst and single-target DPS are passable, but nothing to write home about, while it lacks significantly in the AoE department.|
Originally Posted by Santorican
The strongest I'd probably say would be Dark/Invul as it has good resistance, defenses, a +hp buff, and with dark a self heal.
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I think the best combination of overall damage (burst, AoE and single-target DPS) and survivability (with a careful selection of pool powers, Steadfast Protection unique, attack frankenslotting, and inspiration use) is Fire/Shield. If you build it "wrong", though, you may be disappointed in its survivability, or find yourself constantly burning out of blue.
A very user-friendly Scrapper is Katana/Willpower. Easy to build, easy to play, easy to level, and gives up nothing in top end survivability. Damage output is only passable, but it has better AoE than Dark Melee (though still not great).
I think it really comes down to what you mean by "strongest". For leveling on a budget? Early-blooming? Late game awesomeness? Level 50 top end multi-billionaire build? With very careful power selection and slotting? Very forgiving of "bad" power selection and slotting? Burst damage? Single target DPS? AoE? With or without inspirations? Survivability? Farming? No temps no insps Archvillain soloer? Top score in the Rikti Pylon soloing thread? Ability to tank for a team of 8? PvP for that matter? Even the powergamers play a vast variety of builds. Different combinations are better at different things.
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Thanks for the advice. I don't really care how much the build costs since I farm a lot. I just want a top of the end build. I like powers that do AoE. Most of the powers I chose eat so much of my endurance. If anyone has a good build to show on any scrapper build they think is awesome, then I would love to see it.
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I have a Katana/Regen. I love it's single target damage and built right, i don't have any problems with anything in the game.
I have an Elec/SD. It's AoE is prolly unmatched. Other than the 2 charges though, i really don't like it.
I want to try a Fire/SD and another Katana but unsure which 2ndary to go with. Maybe /Dark if Werner will send me a copy of his build. 
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Well, maybe Fire/Shield IS for you then. It'll level just fine, and if you spend billions on it, it's VERY strong. The main thing is that you need to be careful with how you build it, or you may be disappointed.|
Originally Posted by Naruto98
Thanks for the advice. I don't really care how much the build costs since I farm a lot. I just want a top of the end build. I like powers that do AoE. Most of the powers I chose eat so much of my endurance. If anyone has a good build to show on any scrapper build they think is awesome, then I would love to see it.
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Let's start with the basics of survivability on Shield Defense:
- Slot Deflection and Battle Agility with three defense SOs
- Slot Weave with three defense SOs
- Slot Combat Jumping with one defense SO
- Slot Active Defense with three recharge SOs for a nice margin of error
- Slot a Steadfast Protection unique
- Take Phalanx Fighting
- Use a single small purple inspiration at a time as required
Those power choices and that slotting puts you at 32.4% defense. One small purple inspiration puts you at 44.9% defense, effectively soft-capped. Status protection and the defense soft cap is all you need to be almost unkillable in normal content. You can now focus the rest of your build on destroying your enemies, at which it will excel. Now, I DO recommend taking True Grit and at least slotting heal SOs in it. You'll want to take and slot Tough (had to take it to get to Weave anyway).
The other thing I STRONGLY suggest is frankenslotting your attacks in the mid 30s or so. For me, the MAIN purpose of the frankenslotting isn't damage output (though it usually improves), but endurance savings.
And here is my own leveling build. I'm not saying it's the best possible leveling build; it isn't. I don't PLAN my leveling builds like I do my end game builds. I just know the game well enough that I can do decently by just picking powers as I go. And this was a very solid build to level with, even if it isn't the ultimate. Think of it as a starting point or as an example, not as a "do it exactly like this". Ignore the levels on the slots - I put the build together in Mids' AFTER I hit 50, and don't have a clue when I picked up the slots. You can get a vague indication from the levels of some of the IOs, though. I didn't buy the highest level I could slot though, just whatever was fairly close to that level, and I could pick up NOW and CHEAPISH on the market. All of this was afforded on influence earned by leveling. Technically, I spotted the character 10 million from another character, but he had well over 10 million for most of his career, so it wouldn't have made much difference if he didn't have a sugar daddy. Not that influence will be a problem for you. Endurance WAS a bit of an issue, despite the massive endurance reduction in the attacks. I was running Tactics, Grant Cover and Assault situationally rather than leaving them on. Oh, another thing to note is that I was playing team tank. That's why he's missing some great attacks like Incinerate and Greater Fire Sword, while going above and beyond on survivability. For a general purpose build, I'd probably stop worrying about defense at around 32.5%, not slot True Grit for resistance, respec into a different chain at a high level, and so on. Oh, and Health is overslotted because I was trying to pick up the Numina and Miracle uniques to fix my endurance problems. But I wasn't willing to pay market price, and didn't get lucky with my lowball bids spread across various levels (on a rich character, not this one). You don't want to overslot health like that unless it's for IOs. Anyway, with that massive list of caveats, here's my leveling build.
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Can do, but it comes with caveats just like my Fire/Shield. The main one is that this is an I16 build. Due to the Miracle nerf, endurance is no longer sustainable (it was actually just slightly under sustainable already). Due to the Blessing of the Zephyr nerf, defense is no longer soft capped. I wouldn't play this as is. I would fiddle with it to pick up sustainable endurance and the soft cap again. Also, it is not generally recommended to go with the lowbie attack chain I use here. In this case, the build was almost purely about survival, not damage output. It'll do about 175 DPS, which is sufficient, but very boring. It has AoE, but only farms about 1/3 the speed of a dedicated farmer. Also worth noting is that Katana/Dark is very sensitive to defense debuffs. My melee defense was high enough over the soft cap to deal with minor debuffs, such as you see on AVs other than a few nasty ones. But it's really nasty trying to take on uplevel Cimerorans or Arachnos, that kind of thing. OK, on to the build:|
Originally Posted by eryq2
I want to try a Fire/SD and another Katana but unsure which 2ndary to go with. Maybe /Dark if Werner will send me a copy of his build.
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"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Here is my finished fire/shield build. There are a few things I would like to make better, but overall it is really good. But I took Body Mastery instead of Flame Mastery.
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I'd tip my hat to Fire/Shield, but as with basicly everything in the game, there is no absolute "strongest" unless you start defining logical parameters (strongest in which sense? at what situations? with what budget? teamed or solo? PvE or PvP?)
In some other games, there's a definable "strongest" character type for all uses and everything else is second fiddle. That's not a problem COH/V has.
It's especially true of Scrappers. The Scrapper sets are better balanced against each other than most of the other ATs are.
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WM/EA is the strongest and prettiest of all
The secon you typed the word "scrapper" you answered your own question.
It really doesn't matter what powersets. Unlike most ATs, you can build just about any type of scrapper you can think of and it will be a death-machine.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
I built my latest scrapper with the idea of being an AoE killing machine. I therefore went with Spines/Electric and the physical mastery epic due to the endurance issues. Survivability and endurance were huge issues until I started the mid-30s. After that, he's been everything I have wanted from a scrapper.
I'm not much of a farmer, but the only thing that even scares me with this build is the ghosts from Black Swan missions. They tend to kill me pretty quickly.
Tempstra.
Tempstra 50 Rad/Dark Defender/War'nt 50 Warshade/Heliosa 50 Fire/Rad Controller//Captain Blue Balls 50 Fire/Ice Blaster/Pinky Swear 50 Dark/Dark ScrapperMind Dreamer 50 Mind/Kinetics Controller/Rex Bubbles 50 Illusion/Forcefield Controller/Cool Wind 50 Ice/Storm Controller/Lil' Miss Dangerous 50 Gravity/Kinetics Controller/Observationist 50 Illusion/Empathy Controller/Kansas City Brawler 50 Stone/Fire Tank/Hades Exhibit One 50 Dark/Robots MM
This falls right into a question I was going to ask but didn't want to start a thread.
That is the weakest, or least synergetic, scrapper combo? Really taxing and horrid?
Cause I'm gonna make one, and rock it.
There isn't one. All scrapper combos rock.
But if I had to choose? Spines/Regen
Be well, people of CoH.
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I counter with MA/FA.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
There isn't one. All scrapper combos rock.
But if I had to choose? Spines/Regen |
Iggy/hackzorz
No contest.
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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^Professional Katana/regen build thread
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Originally Posted by Elegost
Iggy/hackzorz
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Was about to post...
What I'm currently playing...
But that seems like a stronger combo
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Originally Posted by FunstuffofDoom
I counter with MA/FA.
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after I think up a name.
[edited to add: Hutoto Overdrive]
[edited again: Meh, I deleted him.]
I make Mosty Scarppers, the best in AOE Damage is Spines and Elec Melee, if you want add a Secondary, I go with Regen, Willpower or Shield, Shield is nice for teaming and has a AOE that comes with it call Shield Charge.
For the Best single Attacks go with Fire, Broad Sword or Martial Arts, Secondary would be Regen, Invul or Willpower.
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I want updates. Could have sworn... was it Werner?... that another scrapper around here was planning to hit that combo.
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Originally Posted by Postagulous
I'LL ROCK IT!
after I think up a name. |
Be well, people of CoH.
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Yeah, you're probably thinking of me; I decided to play one after a recent "weakest scrapper" thread. Name is "Dead Black", black skin, black costume, fire effects in black, white skull painted on face. Looks great, and a blast to play. I'm still a lowbie, though, because I got distracted by a Fire/Shield, and then I got talked into tanking red side. And yeah, the point was to play the "weakest combo", and still have a ton of fun doing it. And no, I don't feel weak. I need to get back to playing him.|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I want updates. Could have sworn... was it Werner?... that another scrapper around here was planning to hit that combo.
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And hey, plans with friends fell through this evening, so I know JUST what to do with my time...
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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I'm curious how well dragon's tail and burn can work together.
Be well, people of CoH.
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Might be a nice Combo to try out Someday, I think it will Rock, As long you no what you doing.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I'm curious how well dragon's tail and burn can work together.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I'm curious how well dragon's tail and burn can work together.
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"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
Videos of Other Stupid Scrapper Tricks
I don't really know which powers give the most damage? I have a broad sword/shield and it's okay. I also got a dual blades/ reflexes and it survives pretty well. The only problem is that there is a certain order to do these combination sweeps and I don't like doing that. Just wondering if there is anything better out there that does a lot of damage and has a good defense.