What is the strongest scrapper?

Very simple way to prove the list wrong. Go take your scrapper against a pylon and post dps numbers.

Facts always work better than wishful thinking.

For the record, however, the chain I used for BS was later in the thread shown to be a bad choice. BS DPS can certainly get higher than I reported, but it still won't get up there with the big boys.

It's not really a big deal. A BS/Shielder saturating AAO is going to push higher than my claws/sr will ever be able to touch.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

This.

BS/ doesn't suck at DPS, but it's not the best either. My wife's BS/Invul does 158 DPS using the HS>Hack>Disembowel>Hack>(gap) chain. Achille's Heel -Res and 5 Hecatomb(minus Dmg) in Hack, 6 set ToD in Disembowel, and 5 Armageddon set(minus Dmg) in HS, +8% global damage buff.

A BS/Shielder would have much better numbers with the same slotting, but a Shielder with Fire/ or DM/ is going to still beat BS/ numbers.

That being said, BS/ has a CRUNCH-factor that belies it's DPS.

(sigh)

When you say "DPS" you actually mean SINGLE TARGET DPS.

The "DPS" you guys are all trumpeting is NOT the only freakin' kind of damage there is. AOE does way, way more of the total damage done.

All those silly pylon solo numbers are only for single target, in a narrowly focused test that has next to zero applicability to ANYTHING we do in the game. Almost the ONLY place single target DPS means crap-all is in mothership and hami raids. And only barely for motherships.

Stop having such a narrow focus in what you say, and maybe people will stop hearing what you're saying.

What I was originally responding to was this:

"[Broad Sword and Katana] are around 3rd in terms of single target DPS"

SINGLE TARGET DPS.

I was responding to a comment about SINGLE TARGET DPS. Despite that being what I was responding to, I THOUGHT I was fairly clear in discussing the difference between that and burst damage and AoE damage.

I also use what what I believe to be shared terminology. On the Scrapper forum, when someone says DPS, they almost always mean single target DPS. That's just what we MEAN by DPS. We call AoE damage AoE damage. We call burst damage burst damage. We call single target DPS DPS. It saves constantly typing "single target" over and over again. And you understood what I was talking about, because you say "you actually mean SINGLE TARGET DPS." YES. That is exactly what I mean. I thought that EVERYONE was on the same page in that regard. I thought everyone understood that we were talking about single target DPS when I was responding to a comment about single target DPS with a bunch of lists comparing single target DPS (except the two comparing AoE damage).

Yes, I know single target DPS isn't the only freakin' kind of damage there is. I also talked about AoE damage. I also talked about burst damage. You may have noticed me saying that burst damage is one reason why Broad Sword is better than the DPS (SINGLE TARGET DPS) numbers would indicate.

WE'RE AGREEING. OK? Good lord. How can a whole bunch of people in complete agreement that Broad Sword is a good set be in such a vehement argument about something WE AGREE ON.

I don't have a narrow focus here. I was responding to a very specific assertion about a very specific thing. An assertion about SINGLE TARGET DPS. Which we all know isn't the only freakin' kind of damage there is.

Anyway, Y'all believe whatever you want to believe about Broad Sword. Y'all believe whatever you want to believe about what I said. Y'all can now have the last word, because I'm done.