Yeah, the Magic Booster costume parts are as close as you're going to get for a Wizards cloak.
Just purchased it. Probably as good as it gets, thanks guys!
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Afraid so. A lot of people have asked for full length robes, skirts, dresses, etc in the past but I believe the stock answer is no because too many powersets (especially martial arts) would clip horribly or just look really bad*. You may say "I don't care!" and I'd agree with you but we don't get to make these decisions 
*Mobs who have robes such as Circle of Thorns members or Tsoo sorcerers were animated around their original design. Full length robes on PC models would require extensive reworkings that they're apparently not up to doing.
Sexy Jay (the main costume guy) has said that he won't release something that he doesn't think looks good, and he hates the way full length robes/skirts look. So until something miraculous happens, we're stuck.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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That seems pretty stupid, really. Are we not the people paying his salary?
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Sexy Jay (the main costume guy) has said that he won't release something that he doesn't think looks good, and he hates the way full length robes/skirts look. So until something miraculous happens, we're stuck.
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No. Paragon Studios pays his salary. We pay NCSoft to play the game. Those are different things. People who use a business don't "pay the employees salaries" no matter how entitled they feel. I always hated the concept people have that patronizing a business somehow puts them in charge.
I doubt Jay hates the look in general (or rather, if he does, it's irrelevant), but the way it looks when he has to implement it under the current system. He's not saying "I hate that look.", he's saying "I can't get that look to look good under the restrictions we have here."
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He's the main costume guy. His word is final. If he says it doesn't look good enough for release, unless he gets outvoted by someone higher up than him, we don't get it. He doesn't want to release something that looks half-*****. I, for one, agree with him. I don't want costume pieces that look like "well, this is what we can do now, who cares, throw it in". I want costume pieces that look like, "I would wear this in real life!"
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Originally Posted by Guitardrumr
That seems pretty stupid, really. Are we not the people paying his salary?
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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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I don't mean to come off as feeling entitled, but in this instance, yeah, we kinda do pay his salary. With no players, there is no NCsoft, and Paragon Studios is left up a certain metaphorical creek with no paddle and a leaky canoe. I'm not saying we should be able to boss him around, but for someone to say "No, I don't like that so I won't do it', when he's got the people who pay to play the game asking for it, qualifies as stupid.|
Originally Posted by Decorum
No. Paragon Studios pays his salary. We pay NCSoft to play the game. Those are different things. People who use a business don't "pay the employees salaries" no matter how entitled they feel. I always hated the concept people have that patronizing a business somehow puts them in charge.
I doubt Jay hates the look in general (or rather, if he does, it's irrelevant), but the way it looks when he has to implement it under the current system. He's not saying "I hate that look.", he's saying "I can't get that look to look good under the restrictions we have here." |
That said, if it is just a matter of not being able to work out the animations without massive clipping issues, that's perfectly fine. I have no issue with that. God knows there's enough of that already, no need to try and add something that won't work anyway.
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He's the main costume guy. His word is final. If he says it doesn't look good enough for release, unless he gets outvoted by someone higher up than him, we don't get it. He doesn't want to release something that looks half-*****. I, for one, agree with him. I don't want costume pieces that look like "well, this is what we can do now, who cares, throw it in". I want costume pieces that look like, "I would wear this in real life!"
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Not really. You have to stretch. We certainly don't do it with any directness. Jay doesn't even work directly for the people we pay, there's a whole 'nuther sub-company in the way. Hell, I don't consider us paying McDonald's employees salaries, and that's far more direct.|
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Originally Posted by Decorum
Not really. You have to stretch. We certainly don't do it with any directness. Jay doesn't even work directly for the people we pay, there's a whole 'nuther sub-company in the way. Hell, I don't consider us paying McDonald's employees salaries, and that's far more direct.
Businesses without customers aren't businesses, they're failures. Really, it's a silly extension of American entitlement. "I utilized your product, so I'm paying your salaries." It doesn't work that way. Which is a good thing he didn't. You're taking someone's second- or third-hand off-hand mention as a quote. BUT, even if he did, this is obviously what NCSoft/Paragon WANTS him to do. If he does it, and he doesn't get fired or reprimanded, then it's WAI. Companies make policy, not customers. Companies do listen to customers, but not blindly and with a whole lot more information than customers have. Right. I prefer someone in that area who's a bit anal and kind of a fussbudget. |
As far as the robes go, if it won't work right and cause clipping issues, then by all means, say no. Quite enough of that with capes/hats/hoods/belts, no need to add more. I would dearly love to see it though (long time Fantasy fan, would love to build a Raisltin-esque toon).
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Guitardrumr takes it in: Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on the whole customer paying the salary thing. You being a stubborn West sider and all, I won't be able to make you agree with me anyway.
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West sider? I'm on the west side of Michigan. Are you a 'Gander, too? (ah, I see it now. River Rouge? **hands Guitar the noseplugs**)
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Closest I've been able to get to a classic wizard's robe is
Considering the limitations, that's a pretty good job actually. I don't remember the kilts being that long. Did you really shorten the legs or is an old man's memory just failing him again?
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Agreed, that's a pretty nice job for a robe and the closest I expect to see for a long while (if ever).
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That said, if it is just a matter of not being able to work out the animations without massive clipping issues, that's perfectly fine. I have no issue with that. God knows there's enough of that already, no need to try and add something that won't work anyway.
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This is TehSexy's primary reason for not adding full robes/full skirts/dresses to the player's costume choices.
There's no way, with the current engine and the movements in powers that player-characters can use, to make it even remotely appealing. Imagine Martial Arts doing their moves in a monks robe...
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Closest I've been able to get to a classic wizard's robe is
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Now if only we could get Akarist's headpiece and robe pattern to lay ontop of that one.
Question, possibly best tossed into Jay's thread, but it is on topic here: We know from Shields and Weapons that they have the ability to limit costume options based on powerset choice. What if the existing CoT robes were enabled only for those non-melee ATs whose leg movements wouldn't interfere/clip?
I'm guessing that jump kick at least in the pools would be an issue and possibly others. But I dunno. If it is the look, could it be enabled for some ATs at least? Does anyone who knows more about modelling than I do have any insight?
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Quite good. My original character, Grey Pilgrim, was an homage to Gandalf the Grey (while still being firmly rooted in the CoH world), and he has an outfit somewhat similar to that. Though I went with baggy pants that tuck into the baron boots, and other differences, of course. Which is all to the good... I would hate to have my characters look like other players. I catch myself using too many of the same costume options on my own characters, as it is.
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Considering the limitations, that's a pretty good job actually. I don't remember the kilts being that long. Did you really shorten the legs or is an old man's memory just failing him again?
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Quick costume question, is there such thing as a full length cloak/wizard style robe? Think of something from high fantasy that a wizard, sorcerer or something to that effect would wear.
A few examples:
http://c2.api.ning.com/files/C9RBQiq...DarkWizard.jpg
http://ronaldcraft.com/wp-content/up...e_sorcerer.jpg
Not looking for exactly that, but something similar. I can't find this option anywhere in costume creation, if it exists. The best thing I can get now is just some wanna be martial arts robe. Is there anyway to get/unlock this? Thanks.
Sorry if this question is a well-known fact, I've been away from the game for about 2 years.
Thanks!
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