PvP Tutorial?


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Just an "outside the Box" thought. Since PVE and PVP are actually 2 seperate animals all together. How come we have a Tutorial for Players going into PVE and not one for First timers going into PVP? Not everyone that signs in and creates a Hero has PVP'd before and most are lost as to what IS actually important in PVP as opposed to PVE. For example we now have 2 builds so you can have 2 seperate and distinguished builds. In my SG most have one for PVE and the 2nd for PVP or visa-versa.

So my thoughts are this you have 2 options (or more if anyone cares to expound on this) you can either cram it all into a multi session prior to someone entering A pvp zone for the first time to get their PVP graduate badge, and teach them things like Defense vs Resistance attacks/holds Kiting anything PVP that will 1 give them a leg up and make them feel semi-knowledgable and 2 possibly get their PVP juices flowing so-to-speak.

So if its a single tutorial then you can have them run the gambit and instruct them and train them in a few techniques they may need in the Zones or Arena.
and if you choose the gradual training. Teach them the basics of dual build advantage and enhancements etc. Defense vs. Resistance as they enter bloody bay and then give them follow up tutorials as they enter the other Zones increasing their knowledge base. Just a suggestion but I wish I had it when I started.

Problem is is that there are too many really good, really knowledgable PVP'ers out there that are unwilling to share their knowledge even within their own SG's I know my Sg we share what we know with people that wish to learn and enjoy doing it. But reality is that is just not the case in general.

Anyhow this is yet another idea on how to help stimulate PVP. Additions/criticisms/ideas all accepted.

B


 

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A PvP tutorial is a good idea, except that it would actually require people to administer. Every once in a while you'll find people putting on training sessions, or just hanging out helping new PvPers out, but really, the only way to get actual PvP experience without 24/7 volunteers is to just jump in.

Any tutorial the devs made like the PvE tutorial wouldn't have other players to fight, and wouldn't prepare anyone for anything.


 

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Contact @Oh My Gawd he runs pvp training groups everyday.


 

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Contact @Oh My Gawd he runs pvp training groups everyday.
One of the best there is.


 

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@Critical Kat for PvP help


 

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A game tutorial, similar to what you get to introduce you to the invention system would definitely be helpful, considering how PVP is essentially a completely different game from pve.

What I see happen all the time is people venturing into a pvp zone for the first time with no clue about DR, TS, HD, mez changes, etc. A lot of people hit this wall, see confusing numbers (Dude, where's my defense?) and after fumbling about for a bit give up in frustration and don't come back.

Unless you're kind of a forum junkie or have a photographic memory for patch notes there's no way to know what to expect going into pvp.

As user experiences go, this is pretty much a complete dev fail.


 

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Originally Posted by SkeetSkeet View Post

As user experiences go, this is pretty much a complete dev fail.
Yep, they completely redesigned the game to the point where it's practically a totally separate game, but gave ZERO explanation of anything to the players.

We had to figure everything out ourselves, which was ok because we were already experts on the game. But new players are completely lost in PvP.

The problem is that the devs simply don't know anything about PvP. Definitely not enough to write ANY kind of tutorial. Their advice would very likely be even worse than Dahjee's. And they would rather see the company go out of business than listen to actual PvP'ers to get advice on writing such a tutorial. Hence, it will never happen.


 

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@Critical Kat for PvP help
Should I be insulted by bad pvp'r inuendo's when I admit I am terribad? Let me know so I can be sure to feel the emotion you were looking for.


 

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You feel embarrassed.
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No, that would be the emotion you feel when you look down at yourself naked.
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The truth shall set you free.


 

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The truth shall set you free.
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No, that would be the emotion you feel when you look down at yourself naked.
How would you know kat.....


 

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Fixed.
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How would you know kat.....

Big ego's almost always = little weewee's. That is how I would know. If you doubt me, just look down.

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P.S. <3 Barrier.