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Quote:yeah and now you just totally belittle the efforts to train organize and figure it out initially. Yes NOW it is pretty easy. In the beginning Before everyone had their incarnate powers when Pinnacles three main SG's banned together to make it workable it wasnt a walk in the park. IT is now. Fairly easy but still inexperienced teams fail it quite frequently. Both the BAF and the LAM.Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I have already lead 3 lambdas and a BAF. It wasn't an effort any more than logging into the game. It was a nuisance.
Here's lambda.
Repeat call to global and broadcast that trial is forming.
As players join, place in appropriate group. Equalize ATs.
Once desired league size is attained, queue it up.
Run lap. Clear courtyard. Clear guns.
Split up. Blow items up.
Give all grenades to appropriate player.
Close doors with acid.
Keep Marauder pacified.
Repeat. Yea, it's SOOO very difficult. No wait, it isn't. It's annoying. Especially that part where I'm standing around doing nothing but clicking invite to league/move to team X.
I could be killin stuff instead if only there were some other viable way to get the shinies.
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Quote:To promote teaming and unity through:Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Why would the devs introduce near-gamebreaking powerlevels in a way that all you had to do was farm two trials for a few hours a night over the course of less than two weeks?
That's a good question.
Of course the followup questions is why would they do so in a way that ONLY farming those two trials gets you there?
That's a better question.
A) semi difficult challenges
B) Organization (<----something that you cannot rate difficulty wise in a solo mish because it doesn't exist, nor can it be duplicated.)
For 1 it takes time and patience to set up a team As well as waiting for it to begin as the leader('s) set up the team('s)
second it takes organization (especially during the learning phase, which some avoid all together) in order to direct 24 people to focus on a common set of goals (<---again something you CANNOT duplicate in the difficulty ratings of a solo mish,arc, whatever)
And third you have leaders (<--- yes in the world of teaming such a thing does exist) that do set up the trials as well as Defer to other leaders amongst their peers in order to accomplish said goals/tasks etc.. Again something that cannot be duplicated in a solo mish.
Also there is the sense of accomplishment amongst the group and the sense of community that some develop during the course of the teaming which is conducive to a healthy MMO. Quite possibly you may achieve sense of satisfaction while soloing and accomplishing tremendous solo feats, but that is all. In the end, who is there to share it with you? The only thing you are able to do at that point is become a selfless braggart, and those are a dime a dozen.
So maybe the devs are rewarding us FOR teaming, FOR organizing, FOR being able to muster together (as intended) and learn/Excel/overcome the trials but paving our path to glory by giving us rewards to unlock the "Game-Breaking" powers you speak of.
If you want then they have laid out the path to get them, and if you don't want to do it the FAST way then you can grind it out 1 shard at a time. The solo path is clear as well... Enjoy it. -
Sorry but I have to say I do like running the trials, I am playing this game BECAUSE I would rather play in a social environment than play single player console games. The trials are fun but on underpopulated servers are already hard to run and at times hard to initiate.
That being said, making solo incarnate content would pull people away from the trials in favor of soloing especially if it were easier, so why in the world would the Devs be silly enough to do such a thing when the idea is to create MORE teaming not destroy what already exists.
I am sorry but this entire train of thought is not really conducive to maintaining any type of healthy teaming environment which is the ENTIRE purpose of any good MMO. The more people team, make friends, enjoy the game, spread the word, invite others to play (the more money the game makes @_@ ) the longer it stays around. Honestly the whining and SOLO FIRST mentality are what Drag MMO's down. IF you dont like it all I can say again is X-BOX.
The devs have gone out of their way to make amends for some of the garbage that was spewed at us in previous issues. Most of us on vent discuss this (some of it laughingly) and all agree that the recent additions to the game are what we have been searching for, To bad it wasn't released over 2 years sooner this game might still be thriving. The Devs are currently on track however, according to most. And as for the un-silent minority of Soloist's. I am sorry but I honestly hope they turn a Deaf ear to all of you at this point. We need more Team related content not more reasons to abandon it. -
So basically what I see here is people crying because they are not getting the same amount of reward that we get from running teams of 24? You are in the wrong game. Way to make a lame attempt to bring teaming in an MMO (social based multi player game) to a grinding halt. The idea of the game is to try and influence teaming not stop it.
And honestly if you are soloing all the time what in the heck do you really need incarnate powers for anyhow?
The simple answer has been in front of your faces the whole time, if you don't like to team I have one word for you "X-BOX" -
Quote:which means you have to get smart and build according to the new limits instead of whining about it. And solo grinders can get threads and convert through tip mishes etc so they can if thye want but honestly Sol grinders are the reason the game is gone down hill in the first place. You take what was once a good social mmo and throw in the "I dont want to be bother'ds" with the "I want to whine about every little thing that doesnt go my way's" and the "It's all to hard because I dont want to slot one of my 3 builds good enough to play the content" and this is what you get. Freakin whiners man. Really.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Oh, so I can figure out my defences meaning nothing, Praetorians having 65% base accuracy instead of 50%, and a giant, map-wise Auto-Hit pulse that means I'm as good as the flying dead?
Oh, yes, I just figured it out! It's called 'Using Hax instead of coming up with a decent challenge mechanism'.
Honestly, there are so many needless gimmicks stuffed into KIR to make it a 'challenge' (which it isn't, its just unavoidably punishing) that it's amazing it got through Beta. You must have found the most grind-loving macho fans out there.
It reminds me of the Sewer Trial, in fact. Except the design team kept the forced +4 Boss con enemies, monsters and AV but left out the teamwork mechanics part.
But then I guess if you spend all day farming and marketeering then there is really no need for a build anyhow right? I mean how vicious are the wentworths reps really? -
Ok but the question is more related to the Devs as can they look into this first off. I understand very well how the power works what I am asking is Can you have more damage in liu of the knock back or have knock back for those that wish it.
Not everyone shares your view on the balance of the power nor the "Joy of Knock Back" some despise some love it.
And as we have seen in the incarnate VOID power the devs are aware of this as they gave people a CHOICE (<---- which is what I am asking them to look into) as whether or not to choose knock back or damage.
And I would be willing to wager you that given the choice a higher % of the players would choose damage OVER knock back especially in that particular power set. -
So here is my is my issue. Early on in my CoH n00bness my 2nd creation was a powerset that really looked cool. I made an Energy/Energy Blaster not really understanding the issues I was about to encounter as the knockback that is inherent to that powerset is really most annoying. although I am very adept at manipulating it now I can play this toon without be a burden to Mob supported buffs of toons such as "Invuln Tanks" or Willpower or even toons running AAO in the shield set.
I am just wondering, especially after seeing VOID in the incarnate power set Judgment (where you have the OPTION of choosing damage over knock back) Why can you not adjust sets with heavy knock back so that the knock back is NOT present if a Knock back Set or IO is not slotted in it?
Say I slot all of my powers with Thunderstrikes for example then no knock back effects will be present and I would get benefit of max damage. Or Visa Versa if I slot Force Feedback (even one) that the knock back would be allowed.
If that is not possible at this point then maybe the creation of such a set that would dampen the knock back or secondary effects of powers like this one.
Problem is on some servers knock back is Taboo thus in some instances causing AT alienation. Anyway just curious if something could be looked at in this regard ... Thanks guys. -
Doesn't matter I associate with some of the best of the best, and as usual the point is missed. Have a nice day to all.
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Just need to get this off my chest, I was at first very excited that the markets were merging but now it would seem that this Global economy has all but taken the fun out of the game for me. I like playing my toons and building setting them out, but lately even the common salvage is going for such a high and unreasonable price that it's just plain frustrating to build toons. It's expected that we will pay a bit for recipes and rare salvage but these folks purposely marketing cheap common salvage is too much.
I really don't even want to build my toons any longer and if I don't build them why play them, and you see where that leads. I have spoken to many of the people that I play with and most share similar views on this subject. maybe this game is getting long in the tooth.
I mean I have been playing for a while, I have the means to make the inf in order to build what I need, but it is no wonder with an untouchable economy and unforgiving reward system that we do not retain more people in the game. If it weren't for the PVP-IO farmers there would be none on the market. As well I have run TF's and Trials out the wazoo and still as long as I have played this game cannot say that I have had enough purples dropped to me to make a complete set, I have had some don't get me wrong but now with the economy the way it is I would sure sell it before I would ever consider using one.
I am sorry but the Devs for not wanting people to farm are making this a farmers game that it pretty much all folks can do to get by any longer. All that aside the market needs looked at, it is out of control.
That's my grip and no I have no possible solutions this time only grief. but then again that's not my job, I would like to continue playing this game for a while but man every time I set foot in Wents, it hurts. -
AS well it was said the reward tables have been adjusted. I play an Invuln/Energy tank and my participation is always high but apparently there is something wrong with my particular AT I guess as I have everything crafted and ready for tier 4 with exception of my very rares I played him all morning and nothing. Again I don't expect to get them all 4 back to back but I have played this toon since Day one and lead both BAF and Lambda alike I have ran many Master BAF runs. And all Successful Lambdas, pulled AV's I have nuked my brains out and even try minimal participation just in case, but nothing.
I have not received very rare for any level of participation. And now with no one wanting to have anything to do with the BAF do to LAG it only makes it harder. I think the reward table needs another look see. -
Quote:Yes, If you un-dock you league team window you can re-size it practically anyway you wish, currently I run mine Vertically on the right side of my screen.Originally Posted by baron_inferno
I like the ideas. I have one more to add though.
I wouldn't mind if we could re-arrange or re-size our own maximized league windows so we could align the teams horizontally instead of the current vertical method. I don't know if there is a way to do this right now. If there is, I haven't found it.
The reason I ask for this is because right now the league window is so tall, it actually covers up most of my map window. I know I could move the map window to another place on my screen but I have so many windows/power trays as it is, something else will have to be moved to its place and that in turn will get covered up. Then there are the choices of minimizing my chatbox to a much smaller size (won't be able to see much league/team conversation) or switch to team only tab (won't be able to see the other the league team's status). None of those options are really desirable. -
Quote:Got my Master Badge with you also ..Thanks BeefOriginally Posted by Beef_Cake
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Quote:The BAF is fairly easy as long as the league follows direction of the league leader. The Lam is definitely the harder of the Two for some reason the Warehouse seems to chew up players. We play and beat both and a fail is a rare occurrence but over all the Lam is the more difficult of the two.Originally Posted by Jasra
And scrappers all have the ultimate taunt anyway: Damage. My DM/SD frequently steals aggro form tanks without trying, I don't expect it to be an issue here.
One thing did jump out at me looking quickly at these guides - Lambda is listed as more difficult than the BAF? My impression was that the BAF was more difficult, though my runs thru both were some of the first runs when they became available in the sneak peaks. What are everyone's thought about the comparative difficulty of the two Trials? -
What is up with all of the Continual MASSIVE DC's? As well when we came back we rejoined our BAF and ended up with 20 people inside someones Tip mission? My PC never DC's in this game for any reason and now all of a sudden I DC's 4 times in one mish last night BAF every time.
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Grats and Happy late B-day (we already gave you your present lol)
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Omega Factor is the Ranked #4 on the Pinn Server. We are recruiting currently, ALWAYS looking for both new and used players. Omega Factor has been around for quite some time and we would like to Roll on with I-20 with some new faces.
If you are looking for a group to game with that:
-Runs all of the current TF's
-knows the game and the content
-Starts/ Runs/ Particpates in Raids, content, PVP, Master Runs
This could be the group for you, Omega is filled with some strong personalities and appreciates good game play and fun people.
As far as the game goes we have quality Toon designers and Both run and instruct Toon Builds for MAX-Uberness. This goes for both PVP and PVE, we do both.
Omega Factor uses a Ventrillo (voice chat) server for in-game play. And for those of you leary of Ventrillo that have not tired it, you must not have tried it. This only enhances your game play as well as allows you to excell In-game at a much faster pace.
Omega Factor runs a Large Base with all of the extras, as well as plenty of adjoining bases for Alts/50's and PVP toons.
As well of course we have our own Global chat channel
There is no facet of the game that Omega does not touch.
Contact us In-Game:
@Rage I
@SniperN44
@Blondiva
Also Check us out at the following:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=253586 <---CoH SG thread
http://omegafactor.org/ <---- Omega Factor Web site and Forums -
SG/VG Name: Omega Factor / Anarchy Alliance
Public relations: omegafactor.org
Peak teaming hours: 12 noon EST, until 2am EST (heavy weekends)
Amount of PvP: As much as you want. Heavy PVP'ers in SG as well as PVE'ers
Amount of Powerleveling: We do it, but don't expect it
Amount of Drama: Don't
Size of Base:
Omega factor / Large Base
Omega Factor Black Ops / Medium Base (Alts)
Omega Legends (50's only) / Medium Base
Alpha Strike (PVP Toons) / Small Base
Requirements: Play the Game / Learn the game / and Team participation. Basically be able to fit in with the team, if you can do that your golden.
Guild Description: We are a fun, fast paced SG, we run hard and enjoy doing it. Constantly running Task Forces, Raids, as well as joining in Zone or Arena PVP events. (Not only do we PVP but we Share/ Teach/ Instruct, for those who wish to and are unsure)
Omega Factor is ranked #4 on the Pinnacle server and always moving up. Omega Factor is a Leading SG on the Pinn Server.
If you are not intimidated by exceptional players with STRONG personalities this could be the place for you. PVE / PVP/ TF's/ Content, we do it all and do it all well.
We run a Ventrillo (voice chat) server as it only increases/enhances your in game enjoyment.
Give us a shout in game via the leaders or at Omega Factor.org
Leaders:
@Rage I
@Nexus
@Utopia
@Aceovhartz
@SniperN44
Captains:
@Blondiva
@Fear the Junior
Voice Chat:[/QUOTE]
We do use Voice chat and it is prefered but not required. We use Ventrillo and it is a private server shared between SG members and coalition's for joint TF's and missions. If you are not on Voice chat I would strongly suggest it, as you really should keep up with the times. As well if you are unsure or it is your first time using voice chat we can guide you through the short simple process of setting it up. We also have our own Private Global channel for members of Omega Factor or our Red Side group Anarchy Alliance. Come on and join the Fun!
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Guess I wont be posting here either . And this is the reason we really have no love for other server PVP'er on Pinn becasue you guys are all about whats cool and talking trash sorry we PVP to have fun because we enjoy the game and we do it well. Ya'll harass Funk but honestly all talk aside he enjoys it as do we You guys are all into the "FITEKLUB" and why it can't be the way we had it but honestly we will do a non sanctioned league we dont need PVPEC telling us who to let in and why I dont need prizes or an undefeated tag, whatever PVP is fun with the RIGHT people. I came on here in the proper place to ask the "DEVS" in public why we could not hvae a cross server setting on the Arean maps, and look at all the Drama it started. You guys are rediculous and can't refrain at all. IF the Dev's have an answer for me great if not This is my last post here as well I'm not a Drama Queen nor do I intend to start.
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Quote:Which is the main reason I was addressing the Devs. Dont want to go to freedom to play shoudnt have to. Dont want to move toons to test shouldnt have to. Should be able to have a setting that allows cross server map set up period..end of story. Not in test where Duping is legal. And yeah you say kitted out toons whatever not everyone farms MY main PVP toon is still several enhancements away from incomplete and may be for some time but I make up for the lack with my skill, as well it is the same with others and that creates a balance within it self and a randomness that makes PvP not so cookie cutter as it is on test. Querry? How long did SoCo go undefeated? Why?Originally Posted by Neuronia
Your cross-server PvP can be found on Freedom or Test.
IO duping, as lol @ is it seems to you actually creates an even playing field where experience, evasion and precise spiking make you come out on top.
Let's be honest, even in the Pinnacle Ladder you have the entirely kitted out toons and experienced people rolling the other teams. That's just the way it is in any gear-oriented environment.
Posi said back in the day that Test was the cross-server PvP enclave, that or move your stuff to Freedom or a heavy pop server.
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Ok this one for the Devs... May or may not have been suggested but I will suggest it anyhow. Seems the PVPEC committee has decided to try to tell us on Pinnacle who we MUST allow into our PvP universe over there. As such most of the Top teams are now withdrawing from a Legue we set up in order to have fun and enjoy Pinn PVP amongst ourselves and the people of our community. Anyway to get to my point. It seems that people are power hungry and wish for nothing other than to exert their dominance of PVP over eveeryone else to the point it is no longer fun to do so and now they are Invading our server in a rather unfriendly fashion.
My Question is this... And please think hard about this as the PvP community already feels they are blackballed from society as apparently allot of them report being placed on ignore from the Devs.
1.Why do people have to actually transfer servers in order to PVP with others? Why can we not reinvent PVP also to a degree is it not possible in the Arena to make an All Server setting? Just curious? I mean the matkets are merged across all servers are they not? Why can we not "Zone into" the same Map and have a 4 man team from Freedom matched against a 4 man team from Pinnacle without them haveing to leave their home server? Is it that difficult? or is their not enough Dev interest in the subject.
Not trying to be slamming but you guys watch what we go through on the forums. Three maybe all 4 top teams have or are going to withdraw from our Pinn PVP ladder now because of people of questionable character. If we could set up matches cross server that would be ideal honestly we could do an all server league show up and fight and then not have to deal with those people on a weekly daily basis. As well without the hassle of transferring to TEST (<---lol IO DUPING) where anyone with a PSy can be king. it's so cookie cutter on test honestly Im surpised it lasted as long as it did. Most of the real PvPer's wont have anything to do with it. Diversity in PVP is king and we run teams in our league for the fun of it. And with people from other servers coming in trying to force open the door they don't understand what the league is about F U N <---- what is this word you say? And now its us against them we are fighting to show who can puff out their chest farther instead of enjoying what we started and the F U N is gone now so instead of breaking the sanctity of what we created we are withdrawing, that's another issue.
But again my point is most of this drama would be washed if we could fight cross server. They could stay there we could stay here and run our league in peace and as well run a "Cross-server" "all-Server" league and they could stay there.
I'm just thinking that there are a few other aspects of this game that bridge the server gap so please give it some thought. MAybe a PM response if possible as my curiosity is now peaked. A post would be better but I'll take what I can get -
Oh and The whole Team Run n Shoot is officially withdrawn even though we have probably won this month finally. We want no part of this league any longer ... ... Collectively. And I am not speaking for the captain of NWS but I am sure his team is withdrawing as well.
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Welcome Back Ninj
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Quote:And either way the fact is these people are jerks and we really dont want to play wth them ya know what Im out. Not going to debate this anymore anyhow. IT was for a better cause and was actually building something here. But if the powers that be are going to try to force us to "choke down" rotten food and play with people that server only to ruin what they touch then im out. IT was a good run and looked like our team had won this month as well so we are not a push over team but honestly these test guys and their attitudes and egos are not wanted here. anyone else would have been welcome but I cannot begin to say how dissappointed I am in both the System the game and soem of the people. Later.Originally Posted by perilX
I wish I would have head this off a lot sooner.
Being that this is a "captain run league," you may add, edit or remove rules as you see fit, which is clearly stated in the rules. Voting to not allow teams in is not a rule.
You can choose to add said rule, and the way the league was set up will allow for that, but if said rule is added, or any discriminatory rule for that matter, we will pull all prizing and PvPEC support.
I can't stop you from doing it, but it will not be a PvPEC event. If that doesn't matter to you, carry on. If it does, a PvPEC rep will have to grab the reigns here. Captain run with no PvPEC intervention will not remain a ruleset. You can have a captain run league, but a PvPEC rep needs to be present to maintain fairness.
Again, I wish I would have head this off a few months ago.
I will team with you all feel free to hop on vent those of you that have it but as for the ladder Im done. I wont be forced to play with anyone by anyone regardless of the motivation. As well their is again the Prize issue Lame F'ing excuse Going Rogue. How much time and effort does it take to freakin log in and award prizes and take off. whatever -
Quote:Sorry DarkAngel but the counting Vote has to come from Enigma he is your Captain you say has no sway. Not to be rude but that is the same for my Co-Captain he voiced his opinion but he is not the counting VoteOriginally Posted by DarkAngel17
I am placing the vote for Team 320. We vote yes to having more people to fight in Pinnacle. Just as long as the drama is left at the door. This vote is cast with reservation from all the flames that went on earlier in this thread. But plain and simple, it would be fun to have more people to fight.
There was a concern raised that the PinnLadder is dead. Why not bring in some new faces to liven it up again.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Psyrene
I have 3 people that have transfered toons to Pinn for this but and we are waiting on the 4th and 5th, my question now is, after reading the rules, where does it say that a team that posts a roster can be voted out survivor style before they even get a chance to have a match against anyone. I know there is a rule that says as long as the captains vote something it can be played on like the previous match with the tie and then the following rounds being fought as they were. No where does it say that the captains can say no to a team entering, so I would think that the roster would go up and then a challenge is made, if challenged team does not want to fight the challenger then they would just choose to forfiet. It is all for fun anyway, right. You would be amazed at how civil most people can be if they are not met with hostility immediately upon them posting anything. So again just really posting because I have 3 and waiting on the other 2 and didnt see the team can only enter the ladder by popular vote anywhere in the rules so I am kinda confused and if everyone else that tries to enter is gonna get the no vote then it is pointless to have anyone else transfer anything. And wouldn't letting more teams in solve the "haven't had a match in a month" problems.
We are really interested in joining up for some fun .
For one read the name of the Thread Pinnacle Ladder League. Two we are aware of the now defunct Test ladder. Three we have already had Drama revolving around those types of people here in our Forums. See there would never have been an issue but it seems everyone wants to "bad mouth" Pinn and talk about how we suck at this and cant do that but everyone wants in here? Reality is after all of the Drama (and still some of the people wanting in are causing Drama as they ask Can I play in your sandbox) we really dont want it here.
And you ask about being voted in or out? IT's a Pinnacle Captains run league. Which means Captains have say over every aspect of how it run when it runs and why it runs. As well as who is allowed to "play in our Sorry Sandbox" as some of you folks have said of our league. I for one will not be in the league if Vex sets foot in it. I am sorry I have a bitter taste in my mouth about letting Test people in here but we were doing fine before and reeally dont need or want the drama. Go PvP on champion or liberty. Heck there is always someone in Zone on the King (freedom) server why cant you play intheir sandbox?
plenty of server just not this league (IMO)
