Gravity woo!!

Screw you and screw the Habs. Halak stole that series.
You'll get yours against the craptacular pens and that whiney snot sidney crosby.

Ya, I live in DC and am the no. 1 Caps fan there is!!!

Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf My favorite combo is Faceplant/DebtCap with the TeamWipe Ancillary

Originally Posted by Dispari Yeah, I like Blasters too.

I would be concerned that if the animation time were reduced too much, that they would have to bring down the damage to compensate. Having that one, heavy hitting attack is one of the things that makes the Gravity set unique.

Lift should get a boost -- I see no reason why Lift shouldn't be the same as Mind's Levitate. Or here's an odd idea -- If Lift has to have lower damage than Levitate for whatever reason, it should do something different. How about use a short version of the Soul Storm animation? For an extra second or so, let the foe twist in the air before he falls down to get his damage -- not as anything more than a kind of extended knockup. Don't lock the character in while it animates . . . so the character can begin Propel or something else during the end of the "twisting-in-air" animation.

As for trying a Grav controller again, have you tried it as a Grav/Storm? The Storm secondary helps this combo become a very good solo player -- not real fast, but fun. There are so many ways that I found I could use strategy to make best use of the powers. Crushing Field + Freezing Rain makes FR into a pretty reliable knockdown field. That really helps get through those lower levels.

I found that Hurricane makes a huge difference in the character, in that I can immobilize them and then drop their ToHit chance, almost as good as an AoE hold up ALL THE TIME, so the foes can't do much of anything while I take my time to pound on them one by one with GD-Crush-Propel. Then when I got Wormhole . . . while Hurricane is on, I can WH them into a corner and hold them there while I pound on them one by one. Plus, Wormhole+Thunderclap lets you stack stun mag to 5. Then Singy became my tank because I stayed invisible with Steamy Mist +Super Speed. He draws the aggro while I take out the foes.

I don't think I ever could have gotten a Grav controller up into the 40's if I hadn't paired it with Storm. The chaos is a lot of fun solo. On teams, I am far less effective, relying upon the Crushing Field+Freezing Rain combo a lot and having to limit my chaos causing powers . . . and Propel is often worthless on teams that kill stuff fast.

Right, currently Grav's "thing" is its annoying powers--Dim Shift & WH. Now WH used properly is very good, but it still comes late and has a small-ish radius, and used poorly is just awful. Grav is sometimes mistaken as another "damage" set to compete w/Fire or Plant, and it's just laughably not. Reducing Propel's animation to a 1.5-2.0 sec range would still not get it in Fire or Plant's range (cuz AoE still wins, and by a lot), but at least you could carve out a niche.

Actually, Lift has a comparable DPA w/Levitate which has a longer animation, so I have no problems w/its damage. I always did think that it should have a low mag (2), short stun effect attached to it. I mean, you just dropped a guy on his head, right? Wouldn't be horribly powerful (ST, minions only), but it'd add some more unique, fun features to Grav.

My first controller ever was Grav/FF, I think. Way back at launch. Deleted him around 20-ish. I tried something else to the 30s, might've been Grav/Storm, tho I doubt it, cuz one of my surviving controllers from launch is my Ice/Storm, and I'm pretty sure I didn't like dup'ing powersets even back then. Anyway, because of my Ice/Storm, Grav/Storm's out of the question, but yeah, there are a lot of nifty tricks that combo can pull off. WH & Hurricane for positioning is a good one. The soft immob w/FR's nice too (Sleet + Tentacles on my Cold/Dark is very nice). Of course, the flip side is the soft immob w/Tornado.

But I may try a Grav/Therm or FF if they fix Grav enough. I've always wanted a Grav/FF for concept (I wanted a TK mutant at launch, but non-telepath, so Mind wouldn't work), but I just couldn't get the combo to feel powerful enough. Also, I wanna roll a new troller (again, unique powersets, only), but the new Elec set is doing nothing for me atm, and I just don't like Mind.

Yep yep, and personally, I don't mind the animation.

What always gets me killed (when I'm sloppy and just switched over from a Scrapper, etc) is activating Wormhole when I'm standing where the unaggro'd critters can see me. Then they all get a free shot before they get wormholed and stunned.

AoE Lift would be the coolest power since [Sliced Bread].

Why didn't we get a cool power for that, something like "Gravity Well" that would suck all mobs into a pile against a stationary sphere of gravity that you created somewhere.... that'd be cool.

EDIT: seeing as statesman weakened the singularity a great deal, almost 50% some years ago, can we please get 2 singularities as pets? You still can't heal them last time I checked, unlike other controller pets. 2 Pets would go a long way in helping underpowered gravity compared to the other controller sets.

I see alot of people saying "grav is great when paired with...." well so is every other set when paired with whatever. Gravity Control needs to stand on its own as strong as the other sets and currently it fails in that regard spectacularly.

In the past, there have been long discussions about a "gravity well" or "black hole" type power that sucks in foes. The general belief is that it would be difficult or impossible to do with the current game engine. A few folks came up with some creative ways to try to make it work, but they were pretty complicated and would probably take a huge amount of time for the Devs to implement, even if possible. It probably would not be the best use of Dev time. But it would be cool.

Besides, the Devs seem to generally resist making significant changes to powersets. Adding the heal power to Electric Armor is one of the very few.

But almost everyone hates (and skips) Dimension Shift.

While an improvement to the animations would be a nice improvement to Gravity, the one thing that would result in a huge upswing in the number of Gravity Controllers would be if Traps were ported over to be a Controller secondary. The ability to lay out a bunch of Trip Mines (and other traps) and then Wormhole foes on top of them would be a heck of a lot of fun -- not fast, but fun. Just imagine what would go through somebody's mind if he were wormholed onto trip mines . . . "Huh? Wha? WAIT . . . <BOOM>"

Yeah I hear you on how it could be difficult. The way I'd handle it would be that the "well" would be a pet that would "hit" nearby foes (whatever raidus - make attacks against them - with or without to hit rolls) and then just does like a reverse telekenesis and instead of pushing the foes directly away just pulls them in.

Sadly we are probably stuck with dimension hole crappy power that it is. Man I remember when everyone hated wormhole too I seriously doubt that shaving a second off propel is going to be enough to "fix" gravity. The singularity is nowhere near as tough as it used to be. Statesman changed its resistances from 90% to 50% and left it unhealable that combined with only ever having one out at a time severly weakened the Singularity. After the changes I watched tougher mobs wipe mine out pretty fast.

At least if this animation change ever makes it in that'll be a good start. GR has been out for a few months now and we're 2 issues past it with no word yet