Full Respec Request

Yeah...I wanted to get rid of conserve power because I finally beat my end problem so I can get focused acc but I'm to lazy to actually open mids so I can redo the build. (Lost the old one when I switched computers)

I FOUND THE THREAD!!!

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...bscription+fee


Here's some highlights of that guys argument for lowering the sub fee.

You know it's bad when the first response that comes to mind is a "mom-phrase"...

"What part of 'no' don't you understand? The 'N'? or the 'O'?"

I'd still really like to turn my day-one Katana/SR Scrapper into an Energy Melee/Willpower Scrapper, but there's no way I'm gonna re-roll him. I wouldn't mind the 4-6 month crawl back to 50, but I spent waaay too long to earn the badges I have now and there are several badges that I wouldn't be able to obtain a second time at all.

(Not that Energy Melee is available for Scrappers yet, anyway...)

I'm not saying the idea of a powerset respec is inherently good, but I'd certainly use it on at least two characters as a matter of concept rather than performance.

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

Way back in the day the City of Heroes (Prima's Official Strategy Guide) said it was go to be a option and was going to be a massive in game under taking but the powers that be have said nooo's and it never saw the light of day and from the resent Q&A will never at this date see it either.

But if it did would I use it...Sure, I have several level 50 toons that just don’t play the same and some that frankly suck now. Rerolling is the only option but it’s still not the same. I’ve done it like so many of us have but how many clones of the same toon do I have to make just because a new powerset came out that may or may not be better then what I had on that toon. But since it's NEVER going to happen I'll keep rerolling rolling rolling.

No one has mentioed my reason for believing it's a bad idea: Abuse and exploitation.

There are a number of powersets that are late-blooming, and a number that get good early.

For example: Shield Defense is a fairly late-blooming set, but Regen and Willpower have a much smoother leveling curve in the early game. A full respec would allow someone to start out as a Katana/Willpower scrapper for leveling and then switch over to Electric/Shield at 50 so they can have their awesome farmer without having to go through the headaches of leveling a lowbie Shield character. That's part of the trade-off for late-blooming sets, they aren't very good in the early game. A full respec would let you skip the difficult part of leveling a character nad jump straight to where they are powerful.

The same can be said of ANY powerset. Willpower tanks solo well, and tend to level quickly. If you could level a Willpower and switch to Stone after level 32 you would skip the squishy levels of a Stone tank and jump straight to the unkillable levels.

The whole thing would completely undermine the inherent balance between powersets, where the powerful late-game builds are less powerful in the early levels to make it fair. At level 20, few scrappers have the survivability of a Regen, but at level 50 a lot of powersets outshine it because Regen matures in the 20s where others mature in the late 30s. If you could level as whatever you wanted to and switch to the more powerful sets later it would destroy a lot of the work the devs have done to make things balanced.

Wow. I'm absolutely appalled at what I am seeing here. Yes, the devs have said it's not going to happen, but let's be honest here. The only reason a lot of you are trashing this guy so much is the standard MMO elitist attitude that gets pushed around this much, "We had to walk fifteen miles in the snow to get our 50s only to have them nuked in a patch, so so will you!". It's no wonder that people have been leaving CoH in droves if that's what sort of attitude the community portrays...

To the original poster, I offer this. Powersets are relatively balanced these days, you won't have near as many issues with your powersets now as you might have in the earlier days when this sort of suggestion would have been an incredibly Good idea(i.e. for those of us that rolled fire/fire tanks in Issue 6, only to find out twenty or so levels down the road that they were in fact the WORST classification to play in the game). With a standard in-game respec, you should be able to change the way your character plays in a pretty drastic way, should you want to, given that most individual powersets have enough flexibility in them that you can make a real difference in how you approach things simply by changing a couple powers around. I suggest doing as many respec-granting Trials as you can, if you haven't already, and toying around with your toons until you find a groove that really works for you. Spec yourself out one way with a planner, play with it for a week or two, see how you like it, and if you don't, respec and do it again, until you find that groove that really works for you.

ADDENDUM: Reading over what Tenzhi had to say gave me a thought on this. Perhaps a power-tree replacement respec would be best suited for someone with A: At least 200 badges, or a good lot of defeat badges(grind badges are incredibly tedious, especially when you later find out that you did them on a toon you really don't like playing), B: Having reached at least level 40 on that toon(Plenty of time to try out, respec out a few times, and realize that the build is entirely no fun at all), and a swappable C: The powerset in question has undergone moderate to major changes(changes in endurance cost, damage output, healing output, defense, etc) in at least one major Issue release.

As an additional addendum, the idea of a Reslot isn't a bad one, in my opinion. Perhaps a set of mission trees and trials that specifically grant a Reslot, which, as the name suggests, would allow you to re-slot every power you have currently(naturally, powers would be limited in the number of slots by the number of levels you have had the powers for already, etc). This would work well for folks that like their powers, but don't necessarily want to go through the hellacious trial for getting a single respec, or for those that would like to simply try a different slot configuration before attempting a complete respec.

THe poor poor horse. He just wants to be left in peace.