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Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
this build is all over the place. you didn't slot for rech, HP, or defense. you six slotted health, you underslotted PSW, you took ES, all of which you shouldn't do.
this might be the worst build i've seen that uses 6 purple sets and a glad and shield proc.
my suggestion, find a bonus that you want, probably rech or defense, and slot for it. honestly, it looks like you saw this stuff is expensive and slotted it without having a focus on where your build wants to go.
here's my build.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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Level 50 Natural Blaster
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pistols -- Entrpc-Acc/Dmg(A), Entrpc-Heal%(17), Achilles-ResDeb%(19), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg(34), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 1: Subdual -- GravAnch-Immob(A), GravAnch-Immob/EndRdx(9), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(37), GravAnch-Acc/Immob/Rchg(37), GravAnch-Acc/Rchg(37)
Level 2: Dual Wield -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(11), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(27), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(27)
Level 4: Mind Probe -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), F'dSmite-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 12: Bullet Rain -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(13), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(15), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Ragnrk-Knock%(40)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(17)
Level 18: Concentration -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(21)
Level 22: Drain Psyche -- Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(A), Nictus-Acc/Heal(23), Nictus-Heal(23), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(31)
Level 26: Piercing Rounds -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(46), Posi-Dmg/Rng(46)
Level 28: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 30: Kick -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Knock%(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 35: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36)
Level 38: Psychic Shockwave -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 41: Flash Freeze -- FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(42), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(43), FtnHyp-Acc/Rchg(45), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(45)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- DefBuff-I(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 47: Hoarfrost -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(48), Dct'dW-Heal(48), Dct'dW-Rchg(48), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(50), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 49: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 10% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 10% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 10% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 10% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 10% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 10% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 10% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 10% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 21.8% Defense(Smashing)
- 21.8% Defense(Lethal)
- 3% Defense(Fire)
- 3% Defense(Cold)
- 3% Defense(Energy)
- 3% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 18% Defense(Melee)
- 3% Defense(Ranged)
- 3% Defense(AoE)
- 2.25% Max End
- 90% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 81% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 5% FlySpeed
- 153.6 HP (12.7%) HitPoints
- 5% JumpHeight
- 5% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -4)
- Knockup (Mag -4)
- MezResist(Confused) 2.75%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 11%
- MezResist(Stun) 4.4%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 14.5% (0.24 End/sec) Recovery
- 36% (1.81 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 20% ResEffect(FlySpeed)
- 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
- 20% ResEffect(RunSpeed)
- 10.4% Resistance(Fire)
- 10.4% Resistance(Cold)
- 5% Resistance(Toxic)
- 5% RunSpeed
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Oh at least he's improving, trust me. He posted a 15 billion Spines/Fire build in the scrapper forums with 20% global rech and no other significant bonuses, healing flames at 41 w/almost no recharge and lots of underslotted powers, like he did with PSW now. |
this build is all over the place. you didn't slot for rech, HP, or defense. you six slotted health, you underslotted PSW, you took ES, all of which you shouldn't do. this might be the worst build i've seen that uses 6 purple sets and a glad and shield proc. |
And a Fire/Kin build on the troller forums with crucial powers skipped (like Flashfire) and others severely underslotted, iirc it would cost about 8 billion.
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Yeah, looking at your build I see you have softcap defenses to S/L.|
Originally Posted by PC_guy
this build is all over the place. you didn't slot for rech, HP, or defense. you six slotted health, you underslotted PSW, you took ES, all of which you shouldn't do.
this might be the worst build i've seen that uses 6 purple sets and a glad and shield proc. my suggestion, find a bonus that you want, probably rech or defense, and slot for it. honestly, it looks like you saw this stuff is expensive and slotted it without having a focus on where your build wants to go. |
However, I have no idea why you would skip ES. Which has better DPA than DW.
And why not put the placate proc into Flash Freeze? For solo play, the sleep would be useful and for team play, placate while not reliable, at least would have uses.
BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
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placate proc is useless in pve. besides me having no need for flash freeze anyway. |
Originally Posted by BrandX
Yeah, looking at your build I see you have softcap defenses to S/L.
However, I have no idea why you would skip ES. Which has better DPA than DW. And why not put the placate proc into Flash Freeze? For solo play, the sleep would be useful and for team play, placate while not reliable, at least would have uses. |
ES's DPA is barely higher than DW which is easily made up for by the higher range, lower end cost, and .9 sec lower activation time.
that aside, looking at all the other posts, ima stop feeding the troll now.
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Hrm. Opinions. How do I put this...
The build you've posted is just absolutely one of the worst ways you could build a DP/MM, even if you put high value on concept (like me).
Psychic Shockwave, Drain Psyche, and Hail of Bullets are your most important powers, and you've managed to make them almost useless with the way you've slotted them, short of Hail of Bullets.
Your build is also ridiculously expensive, especially when considering how under-performing it would be.
Looking at others' posts, I think I should stop taking this thread seriously.
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Hmmm...I can see what you're saying, I think I just don't care for the waiting on my single target attacks to recharge, and don't want to keep using the AOE attacks for a single target, not to mention I love the ES animation. All that makes me keep it in.|
Originally Posted by PC_guy
placate proc is useless in pve. besides me having no need for flash freeze anyway.
ES's DPA is barely higher than DW which is easily made up for by the higher range, lower end cost, and .9 sec lower activation time. that aside, looking at all the other posts, ima stop feeding the troll now. |
As for the placate proc, I have it, havent slotted it into a power yet, so I haven't seen it in action in a PvE setting. Since it wouldn't hit all the time, I don't figure it will be all that great, but I was thinking it may have some use if I did use Flash Freeze.
BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
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Yah. PC_guy's build, while powerful, really didn't look "fun" by my standards. It was just a purely maximized build. Personally, I took all Dual Pistols attacks just cause they're freakin' fun! And Suppressive Fire comes in handy quite often when I solo. But even then, I still managed to find a nice balance between fun, concept, efficiency and price! Here's my build, if anyone's curious:
Originally Posted by BrandX
Hmmm...I can see what you're saying, I think I just don't care for the waiting on my single target attacks to recharge, and don't want to keep using the AOE attacks for a single target, not to mention I love the ES animation. All that makes me keep it in.
As for the placate proc, I have it, havent slotted it into a power yet, so I haven't seen it in action in a PvE setting. Since it wouldn't hit all the time, I don't figure it will be all that great, but I was thinking it may have some use if I did use Flash Freeze.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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Psicorpion (Concept): Level 50 Natural Blaster
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Munitions Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pistols -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(48), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 1: Subdual -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(15), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(17), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(17), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(46), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(46)
Level 2: Dual Wield -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 4: Empty Clips -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(5), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(5), AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-Travel(9)
Level 10: Bullet Rain -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(11), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(11), AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(13)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15)
Level 16: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 20: Drain Psyche -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(21), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(21), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(40), Heal-I(42)
Level 22: Telekinetic Thrust -- FrcFbk-Acc/KB(A), FrcFbk-Rchg/KB(23), KinCrsh-Acc/KB(23)
Level 24: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(25)
Level 26: Piercing Rounds -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(27), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(27), AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 28: Concentration -- AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(29), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30: Suppressive Fire -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(31), Lock-Rchg/Hold(31), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), Lock-%Hold(36)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 35: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx(36), DefBuff-I(36)
Level 38: Psychic Shockwave -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 41: Body Armor -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(42), ResDam-I(42)
Level 44: Surveillance -- AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(A), AnWeak-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(45), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: World of Confusion -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(48), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(50), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(50), CoPers-Conf%(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition
Well both your (Bright Shadow) and PC Guys builds give me something to think about for my own DP/MM build.
I have all the attacks except SF (animation is good, I just dont find a mag 3 hold useful...i need another hold to stack with it AND IF DID that's even more redraw).
Anyone have a link to Umbral's post giving the DPS of Dual Pistols compared to everything else? I can't find it now. 
BrandX Future Staff Fighter
The BrandX Collection
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It's true. Suppressive Fire could be better (especially in the range area), but it goes well with my play style. I rely on Suppressive Fire and Telekinetic Thrust, and sometimes Subdue to keep enemies away from me. And when solo, it helps picking off nasty enemies like Sappers and Sorcerers.
Originally Posted by BrandX
I have all the attacks except SF (animation is good, I just dont find a mag 3 hold useful...i need another hold to stack with it AND IF DID that's even more redraw).
But yes, the re-draw makes me sad.
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fun is purely subjective. yea DP has cool animations, but for me, that only gets the set so far(throwing pistols up in the air is cool until you get killed mid animation). my build is maxed so i can make up for the lower DPS/DPA and redraw has compared to my other blasters.
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Originally Posted by Bright Shadow
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Yah. PC_guy's build, while powerful, really didn't look "fun" by my standards. It was just a purely maximized build. Personally, I took all Dual Pistols attacks just cause they're freakin' fun! And Suppressive Fire comes in handy quite often when I solo. But even then, I still managed to find a nice balance between fun, concept, efficiency and price! Here's my build, if anyone's curious: |
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More food for thought, here is my DP/MM//Cold's build. S/L Capped, 65% Rech, 22% global DamBuff (Helps with DP's over all DMG output) |
Originally Posted by BrandX
Well both your (Bright Shadow) and PC Guys builds give me something to think about for my own DP/MM build.
I have all the attacks except SF (animation is good, I just dont find a mag 3 hold useful...i need another hold to stack with it AND IF DID that's even more redraw). Anyone have a link to Umbral's post giving the DPS of Dual Pistols compared to everything else? I can't find it now. |
The LoTG, Obliterations and Kinetic Combats make it a little pricey but not horrible.
The only attack I don't have is Peircing rounds because although the animation has a cool factor, I'm not a big fan of tossing my Gun in the air sporadically, plus I wouldn't have had any slots to give it, Suppressive Fire has a single slot with an Acc/Rech, since it is my highly situational power.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Zero Defex: Level 50 Mutation Blaster
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Pistols Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(7), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 1: Subdual Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(5), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(13), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(19), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(27), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(31)
Level 2: Dual Wield Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(7), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Empty Clips Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(13), Posi-Dmg/Rng(17), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 6: Swap Ammo
Level 8: Bullet Rain Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(9), Posi-Dmg/Rng(17), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 10: Psychic Scream Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(11), Posi-Dmg/Rng(19), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 12: Suppressive Fire Para-Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 14: Swift Run-I(A)
Level 16: Health Heal-I(A)
Level 18: Executioner's Shot Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(21), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 20: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(34), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(46), P'Shift-End%(46)
Level 22: Concentration Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(23), AdjTgt-Rchg(37), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Boxing KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 26: Tough S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 28: Weave LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31)
Level 30: Combat Jumping LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Hail of Bullets Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 35: Drain Psyche Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(37), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(42), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(42)
Level 38: Psychic Shockwave Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 41: Snow Storm CtlSpd-Acc/Slow(A), CtlSpd-Acc/EndRdx(43), CtlSpd-Rng/Slow(43), CtlSpd-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(43)
Level 44: Frozen Armor LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(45)
Level 47: Hoarfrost Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Rchg(48), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Hibernate RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), KntkC'bat-Knock%(50)
Level 1: Sprint ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 2: Ninja Run
Level 6: Chemical Ammunition
Level 6: Cryo Ammunition
Level 6: Incendiary Ammunition
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Set Bonus Totals:
22% DamageBuff(Smashing)
22% DamageBuff(Lethal)
22% DamageBuff(Fire)
22% DamageBuff(Cold)
22% DamageBuff(Energy)
22% DamageBuff(Negative)
22% DamageBuff(Toxic)
22% DamageBuff(Psionic)
21.4% Defense(Smashing)
21.4% Defense(Lethal)
3% Defense(Fire)
3% Defense(Cold)
3% Defense(Energy)
3% Defense(Negative)
3% Defense(Psionic)
20.2% Defense(Melee)
3% Defense(Ranged)
3% Defense(AoE)
2% Enhancement(RunSpeed)
2% Enhancement(JumpSpeed)
2% Enhancement(JumpHeight)
2% Enhancement(FlySpeed)
65% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
4% Enhancement(Heal)
45% Enhancement(Accuracy)
3% Enhancement(Immobilize)
5% FlySpeed
180.7 HP (15%) HitPoints
5% JumpHeight
5% JumpSpeed
MezResist(Immobilize) 6.6%
MezResist(Stun) 4.4%
MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
20% Perception
11.5% (0.19 End/sec) Recovery
66% (3.32 HP/sec) Regeneration
5.99% Resistance(Fire)
5.99% Resistance(Cold)
1.88% Resistance(Negative)
5% RunSpeed
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Set Bonuses:
Devastation
(Pistols)
12% (0.6 HP/sec) Regeneration
27.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)
Enfeebled Operation
(Subdual)
3% Enhancement(Immobilize)
1.88% Resistance(Negative)
2.5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.25% Defense(Melee)
3.75% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.13% Defense(Melee), 1.56% Defense(Lethal), 1.56% Defense(Smashing)
Devastation
(Dual Wield)
12% (0.6 HP/sec) Regeneration
27.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)
Positron's Blast
(Empty Clips)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Positron's Blast
(Bullet Rain)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Positron's Blast
(Psychic Scream)
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Devastation
(Executioner's Shot)
12% (0.6 HP/sec) Regeneration
27.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
3% DamageBuff(All)
Performance Shifter
(Stamina)
5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
22.6 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
2.5% DamageBuff(All)
Rectified Reticle
(Concentration)
1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
20% Perception
Adjusted Targeting
(Concentration)
2% DamageBuff(All)
Kinetic Combat
(Boxing)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
18.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Steadfast Protection
(Tough)
3% Defense(All)
Luck of the Gambler
(Weave)
10% (0.5 HP/sec) Regeneration
13.6 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Luck of the Gambler
(Combat Jumping)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Obliteration
(Hail of Bullets)
MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
3% DamageBuff(All)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Efficacy Adaptor
(Drain Psyche)
13.6 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
1.5% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
10% (0.5 HP/sec) Regeneration
2.5% DamageBuff(All)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Obliteration
(Psychic Shockwave)
MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
3% DamageBuff(All)
9% Enhancement(Accuracy) (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Curtail Speed
(Snow Storm)
MezResist(Immobilize) 1.1%
2% Enhancement(Slow)
1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Luck of the Gambler
(Frozen Armor)
10% (0.5 HP/sec) Regeneration
13.6 HP (1.12%) HitPoints
9% Enhancement(Accuracy) (Exceeded 5 Bonus Cap)
7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Doctored Wounds
(Hoarfrost)
MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
4% Enhancement(Heal)
5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Kinetic Combat
(Brawl)
MezResist(Immobilize) 2.75%
18.1 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
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Active 50s:
Zero Defex: DP/MM//Mace Blaster
Mutant X-7: Fire/MM//Mace Blaster
Running my Kin/EA gloriously
Come on I21!!!
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Sure, the devs are supposed to listen to their customers, mister business 101 out there. And if I decide to start suggesting that the devs change the game from being about superheroes and supervillains to being about clowns that is my right as well, and technically Paragon Studios is supposed to pay attention to me. But I hope strongly that they assume a meth-head somehow managed to hack into my forum account and make paper airplanes out of my posts, because I hope they recognize stupid when they see it. I assume they will recognize futile just as accurately.
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Agree about not wanting to use AoEs on single-targets. Just seems so wasteful.|
Originally Posted by BrandX
Hmmm...I can see what you're saying, I think I just don't care for the waiting on my single target attacks to recharge, and don't want to keep using the AOE attacks for a single target, not to mention I love the ES animation. All that makes me keep it in.
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ES also has reliable knockback with standard rounds, which helps a lot when soloing (DW seems to knockback only rarely). With build-up it's also a 1-shot kill vs minions. I wouldn't want to solo without it, DPA be damned.
As for animations, I personally don't like the throwing-the-guns-in-the-air schtick. ES looks way cooler. So it's got that goin' for it.
I didn't scroll through and read all of the posts, so I dont' know if anyone has suggested this already, but..
I would definitely suggest throwing a Devastation Hold Proc in Pistols. I have one in mine and it works wonders in PvP, it almost procs as much as Flares. Well maybe not THAT much, but still, it's clutch if it lands when your opponent only has about 10% health, leaving him stranded unable to use inspirations, hiber, or hoarfrost. It's so satisfying to run up and plant a flaming Executioner's Shot to the back of their cerebelum. xD
DUAL PISTOLS FTW!
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It never ceases to amaze me how many people post a build and ask for comments on it, and the build incorporates multiple billions of inf worth of rare and purple enhancements, while so few post builds for comment that show the slotting and enhancements the character's going to have for the other 99% of play -- the time spent getting up to 50 and collecting the inf to buy all those purple enhancements. For all that you may be short-stroking all over yourself at how studly your character is going to be once they're fully purped out, you're going to be a long time getting there, and not making any plans for the trip is going to cost you more in the long run.
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Originally Posted by PC_guy
this might be the worst build i've seen that uses 6 purple sets and a glad and shield proc.
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"But in our enthusiasm, we could not resist a radical overhaul of the system, in which all of its major weaknesses have been exposed, analyzed, and replaced with new weaknesses."
-- Bruce Leverett, Register Allocation in Optimizing Compilers
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meh. thats not entirely true. there are plenty of people, myself included, that have played the game so long, know how it works, and have saved up enough influence that actually getting to 50 and slotting everything with expensive stuff takes all of 2-4 weeks. at most.
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Originally Posted by srmalloy
It never ceases to amaze me how many people post a build and ask for comments on it, and the build incorporates multiple billions of inf worth of rare and purple enhancements, while so few post builds for comment that show the slotting and enhancements the character's going to have for the other 99% of play -- the time spent getting up to 50 and collecting the inf to buy all those purple enhancements. For all that you may be short-stroking all over yourself at how studly your character is going to be once they're fully purped out, you're going to be a long time getting there, and not making any plans for the trip is going to cost you more in the long run.
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Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
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We're all poor shhh!
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Originally Posted by PC_guy
meh. thats not entirely true. there are plenty of people, myself included, that have played the game so long, know how it works, and have saved up enough influence that actually getting to 50 and slotting everything with expensive stuff takes all of 2-4 weeks. at most.
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Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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Ricochet: Level 50 Technology Blaster
Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Munitions Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pistols
- (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (3) Apocalypse - Damage
- (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
- (5) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
- (5) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
Level 1: Subdual- (A) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold
- (39) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
- (39) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
- (40) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
Level 2: Dual Wield- (A) Devastation - Chance of Hold
- (7) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
- (7) Devastation - Damage/Endurance
- (9) Devastation - Damage/Recharge
- (9) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 4: Empty Clips- (A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
- (11) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (11) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (13) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (13) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 6: Super Jump- (A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth
- (15) Unbounded Leap - Jumping
Level 8: Swap AmmoLevel 10: Bullet Rain
- (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown
- (15) Ragnarok - Damage
- (17) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
- (17) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
- (19) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
Level 12: Mind Probe- (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (19) Hecatomb - Damage
- (21) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
- (21) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
- (23) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
Level 14: Swift- (A) Run Speed IO
- (23) Run Speed IO
Level 16: Health- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
- (27) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
- (27) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (29) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
Level 18: Executioner's Shot- (A) Devastation - Chance of Hold
- (29) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
- (31) Devastation - Damage/Endurance
- (31) Devastation - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 20: Stamina- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
- (34) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
Level 22: Drain Psyche- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (43) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (45) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (46) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
Level 24: Concentration- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
Level 26: Piercing Rounds- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (34) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (34) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (36) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (36) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
Level 28: World of Confusion- (A) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion
- (40) Coercive Persuasion - Confused
- (40) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge
- (42) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge
Level 30: Combat Jumping- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 32: Hail of Bullets- (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
- (36) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
- (37) Armageddon - Damage
- (37) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
- (37) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
Level 35: Scare- (A) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic)
- (46) Glimpse of the Abyss - Endurance/Fear
Level 38: Psychic Shockwave- (A) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
- (46) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Recharge
Level 41: Body Armor- (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (42) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
- (42) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
Level 44: Surveillance- (A) Analyze Weakness - Chance for +ToHit
- (45) Analyze Weakness - Defense Debuff
- (45) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
Level 47: LRM Rocket- (A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
- (48) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
Level 49: Stealth- (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (50) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%
- (50) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Quickfoot - RunSpeed
Level 2: Rest- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: DefianceLevel 4: Ninja Run
Level 8: Chemical Ammunition
Level 8: Cryo Ammunition
Level 8: Incendiary Ammunition
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 16.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 6% Defense(Smashing)
- 6% Defense(Lethal)
- 6% Defense(Fire)
- 6% Defense(Cold)
- 7.88% Defense(Energy)
- 7.88% Defense(Negative)
- 6% Defense(Psionic)
- 6% Defense(Melee)
- 9.75% Defense(Ranged)
- 6% Defense(AoE)
- 87% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 67.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 6% Enhancement(Heal)
- 2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
- 4% Enhancement(Confused)
- 15% FlySpeed
- 180.7 HP (15%) HitPoints
- 19% JumpHeight
- 19% JumpSpeed
- MezResist(Held) 9.9%
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- 32.5% (0.54 End/sec) Recovery
- 62% (3.12 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 10% ResEffect(FlySpeed) (in PvP)
- 10% ResEffect(RechargeTime) (in PvP)
- 10% ResEffect(RunSpeed) (in PvP)
- 3% Resistance(Smashing)
- 3% Resistance(Lethal)
- 19.7% Resistance(Fire)
- 19.7% Resistance(Cold)
- 3% Resistance(Energy)
- 3% Resistance(Negative)
- 8% Resistance(Toxic)
- 6% Resistance(Psionic)
- 22.5% RunSpeed
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Apocalypse
(Pistols)
- 16% (0.8 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 36.1 HP (3%) HitPoints
- 4% DamageBuff(All)
- 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Gravitational Anchor(Subdual)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
Devastation(Dual Wield)
- 12% (0.6 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 27.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
- 3% DamageBuff(All)
- MezResist(Held) 3.3%
Positron's Blast(Empty Clips)
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Unbounded Leap(Super Jump)
- 4% JumpSpeed, 4% JumpHeight
Ragnarok(Bullet Rain)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Hecatomb(Mind Probe)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Numina's Convalescence(Health)
- 12% (0.6 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 22.6 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
- 6% Enhancement(Heal)
- MezResist(Held) 3.3%
- 3.75% Defense(Ranged), 1.88% Defense(Energy), 1.88% Defense(Negative)
Devastation(Executioner's Shot)
- 12% (0.6 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 27.1 HP (2.25%) HitPoints
- 3% DamageBuff(All)
- MezResist(Held) 3.3%
Performance Shifter(Stamina)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
- 22.6 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.5% DamageBuff(All)
Performance Shifter(Drain Psyche)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
- 22.6 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control(Concentration)
- 5% JumpSpeed, 5% JumpHeight, 5% FlySpeed, 5% RunSpeed
- 22.6 HP (1.87%) HitPoints
Positron's Blast(Piercing Rounds)
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Coercive Persuasion(World of Confusion)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
- 4% Enhancement(Confused)
- 4% DamageBuff(All)
Luck of the Gambler(Combat Jumping)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Armageddon(Hail of Bullets)
- 4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 5% Resistance(Toxic)
Glimpse of the Abyss(Scare)
- 2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
Fury of the Gladiator(Psychic Shockwave)
- 1.89% Resistance(Fire,Cold), 10% ResEffect(RunSpeed) (in PvP), 10% ResEffect(RechargeTime) (in PvP), 10% ResEffect(FlySpeed) (in PvP)
Gladiator's Armor(Body Armor)
- 3% Defense(All)
Impervium Armor(Body Armor)
- 3% Resistance(Psionic)
Steadfast Protection(Body Armor)
- 3% Defense(All)
Analyze Weakness(Surveillance)
- 10% (0.5 HP/sec) Regeneration
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
Positron's Blast(LRM Rocket)
- 2.5% (0.04 End/sec) Recovery
- 1.58% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
- 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
Shield Wall(Stealth)
- 3% Resistance(All)
Luck of the Gambler(Stealth)
- 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Gift of the Ancients(Stealth)
1. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than
standing in a garage makes you a car
2. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
3. Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the
real world