Really ranged blasters


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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I do a mix of solo and group play - more solo than team at the moment - and I'm happiest when I can stay back, out of melee range, and unload at things that can't poke me. What do y'all suggest for power combos that do nice fun blaster damage while keeping me out of melee as much as possible?

(I realize that the blueside answer for most thoroughly ranged play is "controllers". They're fun too. But I'm curious about ranged blasting at the moment.)


 

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/NRG, Boost Range

put 3 Dam/Range HO's in all viable attacks


 

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/NRG, Boost Range
Yes.

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put 3 Dam/Range HO's in all viable attacks
NO!


 

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/NRG, Boost Range

put 3 Dam/Range HO's in all viable attacks
Yes !!!!!!! Airhammer is the King of Range doing just this.


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NO!
what? lol, there's nothing wrong with it and Dam/Range Hami's are cheap. Not everyone slots with IOs.


 

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Okay, that's a solid consensus, it looks like: /energy secondary makes whatever primary do its ranged thing better?


 

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the power doesn't open up till lv35 though, but Boost Range increases your ranged attack ability by 60%


 

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I like the sound of Dam/Range HOs in a /nrg blaster. I think I should stock up more.


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Archery/Energy is probably and arguably the best ranged blaster. Tier 1 and 2 attacks with enough recharge can be chained by themselves alone, has a 50ft ranged cone, a targeted AoE, an 80ft tier 3 blast, and a fast recharging mini nuke.


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Thanks, I was about to follow up with a question about secondaries.


 

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Originally Posted by Mr. DJ View Post
the power doesn't open up till lv35 though, but Boost Range increases your ranged attack ability by 60%
And I believe you can easily make it recharge fast enough to essentially be permanent. My Elec/Energy always runs around with Boost Range on auto. Distance Nuke!


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arch/em
or
psi/em

both have the most range of the blast sets.

arch is an aoe damage monster with ok st, but psy is very safe and can edge arch out in st damage


 

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Archery / Energy is a lot of fun and plays very well as a pure ranged set. Put Boost Range on auto and you can easily make it permanent (3 recharge SOs or two recharge plus modest global recharge bonuses). It's also easy to get a good single target attack chain out of Snap Shot -> Aimed Shot -> Snap Shot -> Blazing Arrow, and since all of those attacks have an 80 foot base range you'll be able to do so from up to 127 feet away with just Boost Range.

If you slot two Damage / Range HOs per power that leaves four slots for set bonuses and gives you 160 foot range attacks plus a 100 foot range cone. And for maximum goofiness, slot three Damage / Range HOs in your snipe... with Boost Range that gives you a 323 foot snipe. You'd pretty much need a spotter to target through just to see something that far away, and could probably outrange every enemy in the game except Hamidon and maybe the Mitos.


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AR/Energy/Munitions is the way to go if you want massive range, good single target, and excellent AoE damage.

Burst starts out at range 90 - 4 slotted with Devastation + 2 Centrioles + boost range = range 180
Slug starts out at range 100 - 4 slotted with Devastation + 2 Centrioles + boost range = range 200
M30 Grenade starts out at range 80 - 5 Slot Posi (all but the proc) plus 1 centriole + boost range = range 156
Sniper Rifle starts out at range 150 - 5 Slot Sting of the Manticore plus 1 centriole + boost range = range 288
Full Auto starts out at range 80 - 5 Slot Posi (all but the proc) plus 1 centriole + boost range = range 156
LRM Rocket starts out at range 150 - 5 Slot Posi (all but the proc) plus 1 centriole + boost range = range 293

The short stuff like Flame Thrower and Buckshot are just a couple feet off of standard range.

teleport + hover is the transportation method of choice. Teleport + Boost range = fastest travel in the game.


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You can probably see why /NRG is a secondary without the immob.


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I've been dabbling on and off all night (joys of insomnia). Archery/energy is a lot of fun, but energy/energy is a special craziness.


 

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And I believe you can easily make it recharge fast enough to essentially be permanent. My Elec/Energy always runs around with Boost Range on auto. Distance Nuke!
mhm...2 or 3 recharges


 

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I'm going to disagree with everyone else and say /Dev instead of /Energy. The only benefit /Energy has is that you get Boost Range and therefore a longer range for your attacks. Most of the rest of the set is melee range powers. Ice and Devices both offer ranged powers that can be used to keep you out of melee.


 

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I'm going to disagree with everyone else and say /Dev instead of /Energy. The only benefit /Energy has is that you get Boost Range and therefore a longer range for your attacks. Most of the rest of the set is melee range powers. Ice and Devices both offer ranged powers that can be used to keep you out of melee.
Hover and maximum range is 100% chance of staying out of melee range. The slows in Ice and Dev (and controls) are short ranged and don't work on things that are immune to slows like BP zombies and War wolves.

The other nice thing about going /energy and focusing on range is that you can skip most of the rest of the secondary and take other pool/utility powers that compliment the primary.


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Hover and maximum range is 100% chance of staying out of melee range. The slows in Ice and Dev (and controls) are short ranged and don't work on things that are immune to slows like BP zombies and War wolves.

The other nice thing about going /energy and focusing on range is that you can skip most of the rest of the secondary and take other pool/utility powers that compliment the primary.
If you're going to hoverblast you want one of two things:

A) Go Devices so you get Web Grenade

-or-

B) Take Air Superiority

Reasoning:

There are enough flying enemies in the game that hoverblasting will not always keep you out of melee range of everything. So, you need something with -fly to get the flyers away from you. My Sonic/Devices has both....I just like smacking stuff outta my face, even though I could just use my webnade. Also, it's nice to have a back up plan in case one misses.


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AR/Energy/Munitions is the way to go if you want massive range, good single target, and excellent AoE damage.

Burst starts out at range 90 - 4 slotted with Devastation + 2 Centrioles + boost range = range 180
Slug starts out at range 100 - 4 slotted with Devastation + 2 Centrioles + boost range = range 200
M30 Grenade starts out at range 80 - 5 Slot Posi (all but the proc) plus 1 centriole + boost range = range 156
Sniper Rifle starts out at range 150 - 5 Slot Sting of the Manticore plus 1 centriole + boost range = range 288
Full Auto starts out at range 80 - 5 Slot Posi (all but the proc) plus 1 centriole + boost range = range 156
LRM Rocket starts out at range 150 - 5 Slot Posi (all but the proc) plus 1 centriole + boost range = range 293

The short stuff like Flame Thrower and Buckshot are just a couple feet off of standard range.

teleport + hover is the transportation method of choice. Teleport + Boost range = fastest travel in the game.

I have this as well !!! It Rocks !!!


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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
If you're going to hoverblast you want one of two things:

A) Go Devices so you get Web Grenade

-or-

B) Take Air Superiority

Reasoning:

There are enough flying enemies in the game that hoverblasting will not always keep you out of melee range of everything. So, you need something with -fly to get the flyers away from you. My Sonic/Devices has both....I just like smacking stuff outta my face, even though I could just use my webnade. Also, it's nice to have a back up plan in case one misses.

Power Push slotted with Three Damage Range HO's keeps EVERYTHING out my face.. in fact it never gets near my face...


The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.

If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-

 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
If you're going to hoverblast you want one of two things:

A) Go Devices so you get Web Grenade

-or-

B) Take Air Superiority

Reasoning:

There are enough flying enemies in the game that hoverblasting will not always keep you out of melee range of everything. So, you need something with -fly to get the flyers away from you. My Sonic/Devices has both....I just like smacking stuff outta my face, even though I could just use my webnade. Also, it's nice to have a back up plan in case one misses.
friend of mine who plays a AR/NRG Blaster with extreme range, he just uses Power Thrust for those enemies who want to say "hi"


 

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Devices has a lot of nice tricks and gets two powers to help keep enemies at range in the low levels.

I am surprised no has mentioned Mental.
At level one you get a ranged immob (80', which is way longer than any other secondary's immob) to keep an enemy at range.
At level 4 you can take a melee KB power to send an enemy back to range.
At level ten, you get a 60' ranged cone with good damage and decent mitigation in the form of -recharge.
Take Concentration (Build Up clone) at level 16.
At level 35 you get a ranged control power.


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Originally Posted by Mr. DJ View Post
what? lol, there's nothing wrong with it and Dam/Range Hami's are cheap. Not everyone slots with IOs.
Posi minus the proc add a range common [or, at that level, a lev 50 SO will be dirt dirt dirt cheap.]

Gives the same damage and range with some end and rech thrown in, and speaking of rech, you get 6.25% global, and 9% acc global.

But, short on slots, and aren't we all, the three hamis are great. I never, ever, knew there was one that was actually useful to me without having some resistance or something tacked on in some way that makes no sense.