No players whatsoever?
Huh, live and learn. I thought virtue was under guardian :/
Even on Virtue lately, I have had trouble finding teams.
Go to PI and broadcast that I am looking for a team for missions, then wait and wait and wait and wait. Repeat 5 to 10 minutes later and wait some more.
Then run a mission solo and broadcast again upon exiting, and still be unable to get a team.
And when bringing up the search window, it appears that I am usually the only one who does not have the "Not Looking For Team" flag set. Usually after an hour of trying to find a team, I finally give up and go watch a movie, or get some sleep, or read assorted forums.
I never thought I would ever have so much trouble getting my Ice/Rad controller on a team until I started working PI.
Broadcasting is among the worst methods of getting a team in a game that's as largely instanced as this one. For it to work, the team has to 1) happen to be in the same zone you are, 2) outside, 3) at the time you broadcast. And this is assuming you're broadcasting using the best possible method ("Level 41 Ice/Rad Controller LFT" vs "lvl 41 lft" or "ned teamz")
It's far more effective to use methods that don't have the flaws listed above, methods that people will see while they are traveling between zones or in instances (which is greater than 90% of most everyone's playtime). Such methods inlcude Global Chat Channels, active SGs/Coalitions, and well-maintained friends lists. Of those, the Globals are the easiest and the one you can use immediately as you build up the third and look for the second.
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Well, I don't know any of the global channels. And even then, if the search results show not looking for team, I am going to take that to mean not looking for team.
Well, I don't know any of the global channels. And even then, if the search results show not looking for team, I am going to take that to mean not looking for team.
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There are (at least) two ways to find Global channels. One is to pop down to the server forums you are interested in and ask there. (Although they are cross server, many tend to cluster around a single server.)
The second way is to use the Channel search function. Right-click in your chat box to bring a very large list of options. Channel search is about 3/4 (?) of the way down. This brings up a search box (default search is for server and Archetype I think) that you can type whatever topic you like, and if the search term is in the name of the channel, it is listed. The search box tells you both total membership and current online membership of the channels you find.
With regards to looking/not looking for team:
Just because one is not actively looking for a team does not mean one is not open to a team. Not Looking is the default option, and most of the time I (and I imagine many others) don't bother to change my flag. Note that there is an option specifically against teams (the red 'No' slashed circle). If someone sets this flag, team invites are auto-rejected, and the entire line in the search box for that person has a red background.
When I put together a team (and there are people with better technique that will hopefully share), I look for Looking flagged people first, then anyone in an open zone that is Not Looking, then inside missions. I send a tell stating what I intend to do with the team (Radio missions, fight such-and-such AV, putting together a TF, whatever) and possibly the level range. After a positive response, I send the invite, to negative ones I say thanks anyway. I stay aware of how many non-responses I get so I don't end up with a sudden flurry of acceptances after my team is filled.
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With regards to Global channels:
There are (at least) two ways to find Global channels. One is to pop down to the server forums you are interested in and ask there. (Although they are cross server, many tend to cluster around a single server.) The second way is to use the Channel search function. Right-click in your chat box to bring a very large list of options. Channel search is about 3/4 (?) of the way down. This brings up a search box (default search is for server and Archetype I think) that you can type whatever topic you like, and if the search term is in the name of the channel, it is listed. The search box tells you both total membership and current online membership of the channels you find. With regards to looking/not looking for team: Just because one is not actively looking for a team does not mean one is not open to a team. Not Looking is the default option, and most of the time I (and I imagine many others) don't bother to change my flag. Note that there is an option specifically against teams (the red 'No' slashed circle). If someone sets this flag, team invites are auto-rejected, and the entire line in the search box for that person has a red background. When I put together a team (and there are people with better technique that will hopefully share), I look for Looking flagged people first, then anyone in an open zone that is Not Looking, then inside missions. I send a tell stating what I intend to do with the team (Radio missions, fight such-and-such AV, putting together a TF, whatever) and possibly the level range. After a positive response, I send the invite, to negative ones I say thanks anyway. I stay aware of how many non-responses I get so I don't end up with a sudden flurry of acceptances after my team is filled. |
Well, I don't know any of the global channels. And even then, if the search results show not looking for team, I am going to take that to mean not looking for team.
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1. I am not actively looking for a team, but if someone asks, I may very well join a team.
2. It's the same as the 'Not Accepting Invites' flag, go away and don't bother me.
I ascribe to the former.
There seem to be two modes of thought when it comes to the 'Not looking for a team' flag.
1. I am not actively looking for a team, but if someone asks, I may very well join a team. 2. It's the same as the 'Not Accepting Invites' flag, go away and don't bother me. I ascribe to the former. |
This is how I work too. If I really don't want a team I set the auto-reject. If my name just says I'm not looking for a team, go ahead and send me a tell, the worst I can say is no.
Well, the worst I can say is a lot ruder than that, but if your tell is polite, then the worst you'll get is "no thanks".
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This is how I work too. If I really don't want a team I set the auto-reject. If my name just says I'm not looking for a team, go ahead and send me a tell, the worst I can say is no.
Well, the worst I can say is a lot ruder than that, but if your tell is polite, then the worst you'll get is "no thanks". |
Yep, me too. Unless they are set to Not Looking and have a Search Message of "Not looking" or "Soloing" there's never any harm in asking politely and waiting for a response (the second part is important, no-one likes getting a Tell and Invite 2 seconds apart).
Of course even if someone is flagged as LFT I still send them a tell first. People can forget they have it on or might like to know what you're up to before responding. Some people don't mind SSKing a few levels, others do. My rule of thumb is certainly ask anyone less than 5 levels above the team, I leave others off unless their Search Comment says "Up for anything" because I know I hate it when powers grey out on me. Anyone lower level should be fine but again I send them a tell and let them decide if they feel their character is up to it.
I've been leading quite a bit of villainous Virtue teams recently, taking the bull by the horns works well even if you do end up with just a 4 or 5 man team, no-one seems to mind much.
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I haven't hopped servers for a couple years, but that got me a fairly good intro to teams back when I expanded to Victory, and to Freedom.
I know, you need one team to kickstart the process and it's not perfectly reliable.
In emergencies, you can ask up to 5 people who are ON teams, "Does your team have any use for a [level x] Ice/Rad controller?" Note the relevant facts:
1) your level
2) Your powersets
3) Asking if THEY need YOU. The creaky old Adam Smith quote is still true:"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest."
You may get abuse for this; you have to realize that YOU intruded into THEIR play experience and they're entitled to be ill-mannered boors. They're still ill-mannered boors, but they're entitled to it.
If you don't get an answer after 5 polite, passive, constructive requests it isn't your time to get a team. Let the zen flow.
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I have since found two global channels on Virtue that looked promising. But so far, they both seem pretty dead after all (one is simply called Virtue; the other is Virtue LFG Alpha).
I was hoping to join a team (just not feeling up to forming and leading my own teams lately) this evening for my Dominator there, to get him some help on This arc. But so far, no luck. Looks like I may just have to outlevel the arc and complete it solo then, since I highly doubt I would be able to take on either Infernal (that is the mission I am on now) or Lilitu myself. If that Wailer EB I failed to take down in the Johnny Sonata arc was any indication (I had to drop that mission), then there is no way my Dom would be able to solo these. I'm sure they are a whole lot tougher than that Wailer, and my inspiration tray is not big enough to outlast either Infernal or Lilitu.
VU2010 for Virtue. It's a generally-yearly new version of Virtue United, which became locked-out full (once the max number of globals is met, no more globals can join the channel).
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Now what? If I can't post to the channel, how do I find a team there?
I really hope they raise the cap on the channel numbers soon - it'd make it way easier for newer players to get involved in the server community.
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So i just bought the architect version from steam, installed and patched, and am playing the champion server.
I finished the tutorial and went straight to galaxy city, but i can't seem to find/see ANY fellow players at all, is this supposed to be? If so, how do i get out/find other players. If not, is there a fix? Did i do something wrong? |
Start in Atlas and you'll see more people.
Also, /t @Cobalt Azurean for an invite to the global teaming channel, BMT of Champion...lots of teaming through there/
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Thanks for the info. Got set up almost an hour ago now. Still have had no luck getting on a team though, unfortunately. Most of the chatter seems to be just that, general chatter about whatever.
Guess I'll give it another hour tops, then call it a night, or switch to an alt that is capable of soloing most types of missions (most likely the former actually, since I am bored with soloing).
Do this: run the game, enter you password, and click on a really low pop server (like Pinnacle or Triumph - I'm not bashing on the servers). Then at the character selection screen, return to the server screen.
Now, the list that appears will be the order of the server's population at the moment, except the first place which will be the one you last logged in.
So if you logged in to Pinnacle and came back to the server selection screen, Pinnacle will be #1 and then the rest will be ordered by population. So you'll see something like this:
Pinnacle
Freedom
Virtue
Justice
Infinity
Meaning (in the example) Freedom is #1, Virtue #2, Justice #3 and Infinity #4 in player numbers at the given moment.
I haven't paid attention since I came back (I played so little since I returned ) but for me, in 25 months before I took a break, Freedom was always number 1, Virtue was always 2, and usually Justice or Infinity took the third spot.
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Do this: run the game, enter you password, and click on a really low pop server (like Pinnacle or Triumph - I'm not bashing on the servers). Then at the character selection screen, return to the server screen.So if you logged in to Pinnacle and came back to the server selection screen, Pinnacle will be #1 and then the rest will be ordered by population. So you'll see something like this: Pinnacle Freedom Virtue Justice Infinity |
Pinnacle
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Infinity
Justice
Virtue
Freedom
I think they do it that way to give the lower population servers a better chance at getting more players.
At some point, Kioshi, they flipped that so the highest pop servers were at the bottom. They thought there was a self-selection process going on where the most popular servers were first in line, so getting a more-than-random number of completely new people.
Aside from the order-flip, though, you're right. I think of Infinity as "#3" but there's such a huge difference between #2 and #3, and such a small difference between #3 and #7, that it's not really worth arguing about.
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Oh thanks for correcting me Fulmens. I left a few days after i14, the order was top-to-bottom. I didn't really pay attention since I came back because I only logged like 5 times and all Freedom/Virtue. I guess it happened in 2009, I was still active for some time but I didn't play.
And yeah, there's a big difference between #2 (Virtue) and #3. I played some in Justice which used to be #3 for me and the channels there were kinda busy but I was on a special Repeat Offenders Team and didn't try to group there at first. When I made a toon there and tried to PuG later I found it a bit hard to assemble/get teams at odd hours (teaming in Justice at peak hours was easy in my limited experience tho, I just found the large number of blind invites weird, this rarely happened to me in F/V).
Also I found such a huge difference redside between Freedom and Virtue that I never tried to make a villain anywhere else because I was afraid I'd be in a ghost town. Well there was the STRONG AND PRETTY superteam in Infinity but it disbanded after level 8ish.
Freedom and Virtue are #1 and #2.
All others combined, at any given time, will be around the population of those two. I saw hand-gathered numbers once and I don't remember if "all others" equal F&Vir combined, or separately... but the point remains: you'll see a whole lot more on either of the big two than on ANY of the others. Champion may shuffle around with infinity or whatever- once I saw Liberty in the #3 slot, once I saw Liberty in #11, so they move a lot during the day- but I don't think I have ever seen anything in the 1/2 slots except Freedom or Virtue.
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