CPU temps/System temps?
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Biidi,
Posted on: 2010-04-06 17:27 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
My personal feeling is that computers (in general) function better if the room temperature is below 65F (18C). If it's hotter than that in your room, a small fan pointed in the PCs direction can go a long way until you finally decide to kick on the AC.
As for the temperatures you are currently getting, they seem well within normal ranges.
On a side note, does your case also have an intake fan in the front?
I don't know if things are different now than they were several years ago but it used to be that a CPU was "good" as long as the temp stayed below around 90C; and most of the hardware sites recommended keeping temps below 60C.
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I'm slightly tired, so take this with a grain of salt.
High enough (don't want to go over these unless you have to...and if you do, time for some house cleaning):
CPU = 65c
NB = 60c
SB = 60c
Mobo/PWM/Ambient case temp = 60c
Vid Card = 75c (I'll give a little extra here...GPU are suprisingly resiliant)
HDD = 55c
PSU = 70c
System makeup = irrelevent (sp?)
Anyone beg to differ? Just out of curiousity, really.
Edit: Oh, and OP, you're plenty fine.
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I'll disagree here. Modern GPUs are designed to run hot -- as long as you're not getting graphical glitches, it's perfectly fine for them to go as high as 100C.|
Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
Vid Card = 75c (I'll give a little extra here...GPU are suprisingly resiliant)
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Well, I do have to admit I was being a slight bit conservative...but you are right...still I'd probably amend that only up to 80c. "Rated up to 100c" is far different than "let's run this at 100c for every gaming session this gal has"...I couldn't see that system lasting very long.|
Originally Posted by Katie V
I'll disagree here. Modern GPUs are designed to run hot -- as long as you're not getting graphical glitches, it's perfectly fine for them to go as high as 100C.
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Originally Posted by Katie V
I'll disagree strongly here. Google's drive failure study shows that failure rates are greatly increased if the drive temperature goes over 40C.
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Sidenote: SSD's are really cool (pun intended), never have to worry about heat again, for those.
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The new "Fermi" GTX 470 and 480 from Nvidia are rated to around 95 C in normal operation, but that has more to do with failure in engineering design than changing physical standards. North of 80 C, you probably do want to look into more aggressive cooling solutions to extend the service life of the card.|
Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
Well, I do have to admit I was being a slight bit conservative...but you are right...still I'd probably amend that only up to 80c. "Rated up to 100c" is far different than "let's run this at 100c for every gaming session this gal has"...I couldn't see that system lasting very long.
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| Wow, Google has a hand in *everything* now, don't they?! Anyway, ok, I'll amend that too...but only to 50c. Show me a 10-15k drive that runs at below 40c, heck 45c at full read/write. |
....You asked.
But again: exception-that-proves-the-rule. The 10,000 rpm Velociraptor families are all about exceptional engineering standards to begin with.
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http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...0_sli_review/7|
Originally Posted by Human_Being
The new "Fermi" GTX 470 and 480 from Nvidia are rated to around 95 C in normal operation, but that has more to do with failure in engineering design than changing physical standards. North of 80 C, you probably do want to look into more aggressive cooling solutions to extend the service life of the card.
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You be speaking the truths!
Only thing that's stopping tem from putting a 3slot cooling solution on those things...is that it would make the companies look REALLY stupid!
...wonder how overclocking (on the hobbiests side) on those things is going...no way it's happaning with stock coolers, I'll wager.
Wow, I'm just not winning tonight...but in my defense (and to agree with you), the Velociraptors are pure awesome and win
(have one myself...but have custom cooling...hence my wager against them being cooler than 40-45...but not by much
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My hard-drive gets as hot as 50 degrees Celsius and I haven't seen it go lower than 47 degrees, even while idle. How concerned should I be by this?
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Just the other week I went to Intel's website to try to find out what the maximum 'safe' operating temp for my CPU is. They don't list one. What they do list is internal case temp, saying that 60c is max. Of course, that doesn't really mean anything since your CPU can be 100c+ while case temp is nice and cool. I found a temp monitoring program (that has a g15 lcd display) and from what it says I run about 45-50 idle and up to around 65-75 depending on what I'm running. The program (Core Temp) tells me that 85c is the 'Tj Max' temp, whatever that means.
To the OP, 45-50 is probably fine. I have 4 fans in my case with a spot for a 5th directly over the CPU. Sounds like your case is similar to mine so you shouldn't have a problem.
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According to the Google study, an operating temperature of 50C corresponds to a 20% chance of drive failure after three years.|
Originally Posted by Demobot
My hard-drive gets as hot as 50 degrees Celsius and I haven't seen it go lower than 47 degrees, even while idle. How concerned should I be by this?
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Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
Wow, Google has a hand in *everything* now, don't they?!
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Your temperatures are fine and will cause no damage. If the cpu temp goes to about 65 degrees I would consider fitting a larger heatsink or a water cooler.
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Originally Posted by Fiftycalsniper
Okay, so my new rig is pretty cool (no pun intended). It seems like the case is VERY well ventilated, with top, side, and back fans to go along with the CPU heatsink/fan, and the PS fan. The sides/top are mesh grill.
The MoBo came with a nifty little utility that lets you monitor CPU and System temps. The weather has just gotten warmer here, but not quite warm enough yet for me to turn on my central A/C. Tonight, my system was running a steady 40 deg C on the CPU and 47 deg C on the system itself. This is about 8-10 deg C higher than it HAS been running, but I attribute it to simply the change in the overall environmental temperature. So what's too hot for a system? Am I cooking things? Should I run an actual external fan to just move the air volume around the case better, or is it time to go ahead and fire up the A/C? Thoughts? Thanks! |
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I wonder how much that says about hard drive reliability in general, and how much it speaks to the quality of drives that Google uses in their 'hundreds of thousands of servers'?|
Originally Posted by Katie V
According to the Google study, an operating temperature of 50C corresponds to a 20% chance of drive failure after three years.
It's their "20% time" policy: Google engineers must spend 20% of their time on something other than their main job, which leads to all sorts of odd things being done -- in this case, a study of the failures of the hard drives in Google's hundreds of thousands of servers. |
Not that I'm not an advocate of keeping computers cool - I'd keep my house at 60 degrees all year long if I could afford it.
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TJ Max is the temp that CPU will get to before it says "ouch" and starts to lower the multiplier itself in an attempt to rapidly cool itself down. |
Originally Posted by Biidi
tells me that 85c is the 'Tj Max' temp, whatever that means.
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Originally Posted by Tyrrano
I wonder how much that says about hard drive reliability in general, and how much it speaks to the quality of drives that Google uses in their 'hundreds of thousands of servers'?
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My wife and son can't handle the AC being put much lower than 77F. My office is on the 2nd floor, north side, and when I'm in it I've got two full sized towers cranking out the heat.
I'm going to do my damndest to get a single story home this summer. I often feel very sorry for my rigs and the environment they are forced to function in.
Be well, people of CoH.
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Just don't live by the ocean. I just worked on a friend of mines pc who lives a few blocks from the water. He was having all sorts of trouble. Kept his PC by the window, with the window open on hot days. Opened up his tower and and it was just being eaten away.The ocean air was slowly disolving the inside...suprised it hadn't fallen apart allready. |
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I'm going to do my damndest to get a single story home this summer. I often feel very sorry for my rigs and the environment they are forced to function in.
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Okay, so my new rig is pretty cool (no pun intended). It seems like the case is VERY well ventilated, with top, side, and back fans to go along with the CPU heatsink/fan, and the PS fan. The sides/top are mesh grill.
The MoBo came with a nifty little utility that lets you monitor CPU and System temps. The weather has just gotten warmer here, but not quite warm enough yet for me to turn on my central A/C.
Tonight, my system was running a steady 40 deg C on the CPU and 47 deg C on the system itself. This is about 8-10 deg C higher than it HAS been running, but I attribute it to simply the change in the overall environmental temperature.
So what's too hot for a system? Am I cooking things? Should I run an actual external fan to just move the air volume around the case better, or is it time to go ahead and fire up the A/C? Thoughts? Thanks!
Basically too many 50's to count, but I'm generally a brute/scrapper/tank kind of guy.