Ill/storm vs AV's


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I'm working towards a perma PA build with storm as the secondary. Is this combo capable, damage wise, of overtaking an AV's regen? Thx.


 

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i dont think you could solo an AV with this build because storm has no -regen powers and ill/storm isnt a very high dmg combo (the perma PA would keep the AV off of you, but thats about it)


 

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Storm is indeed pretty heavy on damage, you'll do just fine.


 

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It might be doable, but it depends a lot on the AV and your epic power pool. You're going to need some hardcore Endurance Recovery, though. IMO Illusion/Cold would have an easier time of it, especially since it gets three native powers you can slot Luck of the Gambler +Recharge in to get you closer to your Perma-PA goal.


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
i dont think you could solo an AV with this build because storm has no -regen powers and ill/storm isnt a very high dmg combo (the perma PA would keep the AV off of you, but thats about it)
I don't agree that Ill/Storm isn't a high damage combo. Tornado and Lightning Storm add a lot more damage. However, the above is correct that there are no -Regen powers (like Ling Rad and EM Pulse in Radiation or Transfusion in Kinetics).

Tornado puts out a fair amount of continuous DoT -- that may be enough to counter the Regen of some AVs, but continually putting out Tornado and Lightning Storm use up a LOT of endurance. Plus, Ill/Rad has the advantage of 30% Recharge from AM, so you will have to make up that 30 % from IO sets.

I have a level 50 Ill/Storm, but I haven't come up with a max build for that character yet. I would bet that it will need several of the purple sets to get Perma PA, however. You will need not only a bunch of Recharge, but a LOT of Endurance Recovery as well.


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Tornado and Lightning Storm work out to be at least 1 endurance / second on a high recharge build, even with ED capped endurance reduction. If you want to rely on those in a long fight (and beating AVs without extreme damage or -regen is a long fight) you'll want a lot of +recovery and probably Conserve Power. Just spamming Blind, Spectral Wounds, Tornado, Lightning Storm, and Freezing Rain at ED capped endurance reduction and 200% recharge is about 4 endurance / second, and that's if you do nothing else at all. I'm not sure you can hit 4 EPS recovery and still get perma-PA, and since you'll probably have over 200% recharge on at least some of those powers and you'll be recasting pets and such you'll likely need even more. I'd strongly suggest Conserve Power since the fights will likely last longer than a full tray of blues.


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Nice, Psiphon, you beat me to it. I was just about to point out Tal and his SFX vids.


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Would this still work now that Lightning Storm is "working as intended," ie, firing at half the rate it once did?


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Still works. problem with ill/storm is the lack of an immob and they will run