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Wow, you're a comedian too?
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Originally Posted by Dahjee
I'm not clueless.
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Caltrops and Acid Mortar is what stalkers will fear. Caltrops to break hide well before an AS, and Acid Mortar because once hide is broken, they're hit with a long DoT that prevents them from hiding again. It gets them killed pretty quick. After one time... they won't come near a Trapper when they're set up with any type of team nearby. Not even close. They literally swarm around like sharks waiting for someone to leave the area... Any threat from direct melee vanishes. Teammates and others in a zone will start to adore you and follow you yes... because where you are is where they don't have to worry as much... and because watching people try to spike and get webbed and die is fun for them to watch. True story. (My Traps defender hasn't been pimped out yet but I took for a stroll the other day in SC)|
Originally Posted by Predatoric
This plan would mean the empath would be mainly centered around the same spot on the ground, which is rare i know, but if a traps charecter has FFG up, then plants a trip mine near the feet of the empath, the empath continues to heal and when a stalker tries to AS the empath, then the trip mine goes off possibly doing a buttload of damage to the stalker if enough mines are planted at the empaths feet. Yes I understand the stalker is likely to have capped defence with AoE damage, thus making all the mines miss however, but im sure it must be possible to overcome this, its possible for every other power to overcome defence lately.
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Oh and it doesn't take long to set up so setting here and then moving to here and then here is quite easy to do without losing much. Although the longer you do stay in one spot... the stronger and safer you become.
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Originally Posted by ConFlict
Dahjee you still are missing my point. If we are talking zones as you seem to only do then an emp (or pd red side) will add more to a teams k/d ratio than any traps corr ever. I am glad you think in zone a kill is a kill but the only real way to tell who won, even in zone, is by who had to respawn. You can try to look at it in the everyone's a winner and I was just here to play way. But in the end that's just loser talk for I can't step up and really play.
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"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
caltrops and acid mortar are subpar trash compared to other stuff that's available for the same purpose.
mastermind pets, earth control patches, sleet, freezing rain, and acid arrow all pose a larger threat than the trash you're suggesting. even ring of fire spamming scrappers are scarrier than acid mortar (they chase me afterwards.). i wanna see an acid mortar chasing a scrapper.
also caltrops do NOTHING but break hide.
[QUOTE=Dahjee;2715733
You think a /PD doesn't like standing in a triage beacons? No, they love it. As a matter of fact, I find that just about everyone enjoys standing a trapfield. lol well except the enemy.[/QUOTE]
Dunno about virtue but on freedom blasters slot damage and procs into their attacks, they also use build up and aim. Why would i be standing still on a PD(unless i lag)? Soothing Aura + Triage Bacon might sound wonderful to you but gets killed by DR and still wont mitigate enough damage if people are attacking the same target.
**** random caltrops in the zone.
Closing to AS, wait.... no.... random caltrops 30 yards away from target in the middle of the zone dropped me out of hide
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/snicker| the longer you do stay in one spot... the stronger and safer you become. |
This is about how the vent conversation goes when we (usually duo stalkers) see this.
"Alright next target is the shiddy defender standing still over here. Let me know when you get here. On trops so watch out."
"In range, TS'ing"
"Sharking"
"Down, alright new target is bad scrapper."
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All I said was caltrops break hide... that stalkers will not more than once (twice if dumb) attempt to AS near a Traps toon when set up and surrounded by any type of teammates. I don't understand why basic statements here get made into a all out comparsion of sets. Does the phrase apples to oranges mean anything here?|
Originally Posted by black_barrier
caltrops and acid mortar are subpar trash compared to other stuff that's available for the same purpose.
mastermind pets, earth control patches, sleet, freezing rain, and acid arrow all pose a larger threat than the trash you're suggesting. even ring of fire spamming scrappers are scarrier than acid mortar (they chase me afterwards.). i wanna see an acid mortar chasing a scrapper. also caltrops do NOTHING but break hide. |
All is available, included, and possible in a Zone BB.
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
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Yeah blasters are tough... usually for 10 secs at a time though... and they don't like to be webbed much . especially when their target is being healed or regenerating health faster than their debuffed damage can kill them. They usually Hib and try again.|
Originally Posted by Terror1
Dunno about virtue but on freedom blasters slot damage and procs into their attacks, they also use build up and aim. Why would i be standing still on a PD(unless i lag)? Soothing Aura + Triage Bacon might sound wonderful to you but gets killed by DR and still wont mitigate enough damage if people are attacking the same target.
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Soothing Auras + triage beacon is really good regen when both have invested into making them so. Everything gets killed by DR... you should be past this by now. We all should.
Once DR comes into play you still want the most right? Right?
Stacking where it's at under the new system. Not necessarily from stacking only the best set/set combos for the job or effect, but from the powers within different sets. Slowing SS'ers for example occur reliably not just from one toon with 2-3 poor slow powers and 1-2 really good ones... but from 2-3 toons using their really good slow powes at once. It's very very hard to die when standing in an area surrounded by 3 triage beacons for another example... compared to follwing a /PD around to get their regn buff.
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
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I haven't got my defender up to 50 yet... we'll see.|
Originally Posted by MrLiberty
**** random caltrops in the zone.
Closing to AS, wait.... no.... random caltrops 30 yards away from target in the middle of the zone dropped me out of hide /snicker This is about how the vent conversation goes when we (usually duo stalkers) see this. "Alright next target is the shiddy defender standing still over here. Let me know when you get here. On trops so watch out." "In range, TS'ing" "Sharking" "Down, alright new target is bad scrapper." |
Do be careful though, cause that approach might not always work. I like to phase when attacked to pull bad stalkers into traps, after they've been hit with acid... then kite around keeping them in range of seekers, then un phase right away to web them, tp them, and blow them up as they try to flee the scene.
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
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Originally Posted by Dahjee
All I said was caltrops break hide... that stalkers will not more than once (twice if dumb) attempt to AS near a Traps toon when set up and surrounded by any type of teammates. I don't understand why basic statements here get made into a all out comparsion of sets. Does the phrase apples to oranges mean anything here?
All is available, included, and possible in a Zone BB. |
it's all about comparisons.
because otherwise, we'd all be running around on petless dark masterminds.
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I think you are confusing stalkers with scrappers. I have never seen any stalker act this way.... ever.....|
Originally Posted by Dahjee
I like to phase when attacked to pull bad stalkers into traps, after they've been hit with acid... then kite around keeping them in range of seekers, then un phase right away to web them, tp them, and blow them up as they try to flee the scene.
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Almost as epic as the TP/Placate/Rad Snipe strategy though. Almost.
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The keyword is bad. Yes we get it, you can kill bad players with traps. We appreciate your input.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
lol Dahjee seems really unpopular here, not really sure why either tbh, you all have valid points, however from what i can pick up it seems traps is very situational in pvp. Most likely due to set up time and immobile objects like mines and mortar.
Whats ironic is looking at how they would respond to someone who entered a thread about a Psy/Em to say it sucked even though they've never PvP'ed with the set personally.
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You' haven't fought stalkers from a Traps perspective now have you? Try it and get back to me.
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Originally Posted by MrLiberty
I think you are confusing stalkers with scrappers. I have never seen any stalker act this way.... ever.....
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"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
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I've seen good trappers (Arbegla, Fuze), and you're not one of them.
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Originally Posted by Dahjee
Whats ironic is looking at how they would respond to someone who entered a thread about a Psy/Em to say it sucked even though they've never PvP'ed with the set personally.
You' haven't fought stalkers from a Traps perspective now have you? Try it and get back to me. |
My trapper used to be the toon I pulled out to mess with twixt back in the day. I used it quite often in zone and in arena. But I am no dahjee.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
Dahjee, come back to freedom. Nothing easier to kill then a traps corr.
They also taste like cardboard.
Jus'sayin.
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Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
Dahjee, come back to freedom. Nothing easier to kill then a traps corr.
They also taste like cardboard. Jus'sayin. |
Convincing others that I'm an easy kill while playing Traps is a fun part of playing Traps. It's how you get drops from forum PvP!
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
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You can kill bad players with brawl.
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Originally Posted by ConFlict
The keyword is bad. Yes we get it, you can kill bad players with traps. We appreciate your input.
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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Every single person here that has seen you play has said you ARE an easy kill. Please give up on the idea that you're good at this game.
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Originally Posted by Dahjee
Convincing others that I'm an easy kill while playing Traps is a fun part of playing Traps.
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Originally Posted by Supermax
Every single person here that has seen you play has said you ARE an easy kill. Please give up on the idea that you're good at this game.
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words are truf yo. Believe words when EVER you see them for reals.
[EDIT: Max theres only like 12 people here on the PvP boards... like seriously. Everyone here?? lol]
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
Generally when most people here agree that someone is bad, they are.
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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Originally Posted by macskull
Generally when most people here agree that someone is bad, they are.
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Being called Bad here doesn't make it a fact Mac... it's a fad. An inside joke used to train newbies.
It doesn't mean much to call someone bad when you don't actually know the defenition. I'd ask you yourself Mac to give one for the people... but you like anyone else here would only have examples...
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
Bad = not good.
See what I did there?
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Indeed I do Mac... and thank you for trying.
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
Such a moron. lol