Family Talk Therapy

LMAO! NOW I'm sold! :P

Being personally involved in 3 of the things you mention here makes me hope efforts are not wasted. I was also a little disappointed to read the line "I see people complaining and I see few stepping up and doing things to better the community. WTH happened to us?" at first, knowing how many projects some of us are worked hard to maintain and promote, past and present.

But then I realized that it may simply have been a different way to word what I've also noticed happening in 6+ years of playing and running server events: Players expect or "want" more than they can (or are willing to) "give".

This is just my perspective on the majority wanting to "log in, be entertained, log out" versus a minority wanting to invest themselves into supporting projects they believe in. It's an observation, not an accusation.

No group is better than the other, it's just the way things are. Some derive satisfaction from seeing ingame organized projects flourish. Most prefer to have a selection of activities they can choose from without any real involvement in their management.

To each his own.

I've seen once motivated, enthusiastic people lose interest almost overnight in server-wide projects simply because there was no one to support their efforts. The ROI just isn't there for most ideas that are launched. When the time you invest in something doesn't pay off somehow, it becomes really hard to justify throwing more of yourself into it.

The Praesidium mega SG coalition, The Herolympics on Protector (originally launched by the Defenders of the Night, to be honest, and then taken up by the Praesidium), PVP server events, New Player Welcoming Night, etc. The list of good ideas that fizzled out of the public eye goes on.

On that note, I'm giving a quick nod of approval to Rasta (oldest member of PERC on Protector), Sooner / Ice_9 (Praesidium), and DJKyo / bamaWolfie (New Player Welcoming Night) to recognize their relatively thankless efforts in at least trying to make things work despite some harsh conditions. There are more who could be singled out, but these examples were closer to me personally.

Here's an example of what I'm saying: My latest idea for a server (now cross-server) event was the Mentor Project. Days, weeks were spent talking it out with Protectorites. Points were made, counterpoints followed. It was great seeing the idea pick up interest. The players were designing it as they thought it would work best.

And then it launched.

...and only a fraction of the people who had discussed / critiqued it got personally involved.

This is not a complaint - the volunteers we do have are doing an awesome job so far. But already I can see that this will grow and thrive faster on other servers than here where it was dreamed up (/salute to Badstorm, wherever she is, for the initial concept). Those who did not participate as volunteers after spending time discussing the pros and cons must have had their reasons.

That's just the way things are on Protector. But knowing this, it's no surprise that individuals willing to jump through the hoops are a rare breed. Or masochists. I'm still not sure about this one.


As for the Jello Shooters channel I've always thought of it as the original Protector channel. I wasn't aware that it had problems being defined as such but then I haven't been in there for months now.

When I spearheaded the relaunch of Protector Vigilance it wasn't to become a competition for JS. It was because there was a gap that needed to be filled in the category of a server-wide channel that was more family-friendly (read: loosely moderated). It was never an either / or thing. Protector Vigilance is a channel that the server population needed, and the numbers gained in the short time it's been relaunched support that.

Not surprisingly, even this was frowned upon by some.



Boricua, that was Storm Angyl (Heather Hoffman). Her brother, from whom we had obtained permission to run this in her honor), contacted me again a few months ago since he recalled what we had done and was getting back into the game.

I'm touched people remember the event, and the community spirit that fueled it.


PS -
Make this happen, seriously. Do it.

At the '08 Hero-Con, Castle said it would take about 100 stacked IR's.

We should totally be able to make this happen! I bet we wouldnt even need 100 kins - more like 40-50 - with everyone speed boosting, we could get IR's recharge way down and stack it 2 per person...

We can do this!

Don't you kids make me turn this thread around !

Every thread needs some Richard !

It's whats for breakfast!

I remember that event. I think I may still have the pics taken there.

Hi Sterling! Long time no talk. Just wanted to mention that PC was going to the dogs before I left two odd years ago. It was part of the reason I switched to Virtue when I returned. Even still I heard of your valiant efforts in holding the group together despite declining interest in the game and Mark's weird breakdown and some decidedly bad PR. Good job on running the SG, but I had also heard through the grapevine that the group moved to Freedom. Anyhow, nice to see you're all still alive.

Pardon my previous words. Despite my current feelings on my old home server's current social climate, I had no right insult people so carelessly. That being said, the community of Protector has always been standoffish at best of anyone who didn't quite fit the mold. I can cite numerous cases but I'm sure no one would care.

*opens mouth*

*raises hand*

*closes mouth*

*deep breath*

I wanna make Protector better.

--Kult

Backhanded? I think he put baby powder on his hand before that post went off.

Saved for Prosperity.

*sticks a gold star on rasta's forehead*

whee!

--Kult

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

I'm not a good man, but I'm not going to let this stand.

Silas, I'm going to state something that needs to be said: Protector isn't socially retarded, you are. Your post is 4 months late and inflammatory.

I don't want you back. And I'm willing to guess that those that you have insulted don't either. The problem isn't Protector, it's you.

And you decided to spread the wealth, I see, and boil everyone else's blood too.

Major, I once considered you a friend so I will let that go. But I'm tired of accepting BS from a server that rarely accepts anyone who doesn't fit in.