My opinion on CoH 2

Sorry, I was being unclear again. The models are developed in 3DS MAX and converted with a plugin/program. I'm sure there was a plugin that Cryptic was using to convert animations to the format that CoH uses . Yes, this program uses 3DS MAX models. Unless something has drastically changed behind the scenes the game (and C.O.) might be limited by this program.

Edit:
If Back Alley Brawller, Jay, and company still have to use that program they have my sympathy.

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I've played AC2 where they had rain in different zones (or snow)....sure it's pretty (graphically and audibly); but...after like the first one or two times....what's the point? It doesn't slow you down, doesn't make you faster, doesn't do a -tohit debuff or anything else...it's just there....


As far as a sequel, I have a feeling they might be working on a sequel...but...I kind of hope that they aren't. Like someone said earlier, it would most likely just divide the userbase since some would want to keep their COH chars. and others would want the new 'shiny'.

Sure why not?

CoH2 was CoV
CoH::GR will be CoH3.

Since CoH2 - CoV -which had lots of graphical improvements, etc.

So since it's already out, I guess they can continue on with i17.

I keep wondering how long people will keep on bringing up this mythical CoH Reboot. It is obvious that the game is nothing like it was in i1 to any of us that were paying back in i1.
At least as a player that played back in i1, I can tell you that I have seen wave after wave of changes. I remember when the trees were two vertical planes. I remember multiple changes to the faces. There was only one male, big, and female forms. I remember the water going through multiple changes.
Seriously, the game is progressing.

Would you really rather see all work being done to CoH stop for several years to see a new CoH Reboot?
That should give Champions Online a chance to catch up and DCU Online to get a good toe hold.

I don't see any way that the DEVs are going to consider that - especially after all the time they have spent on COH:GR -which hasn't even been completed yet.

And I know I already said it - because I have already said it in multiple previous threads - CoH2 is CoV - which is now part of CoH. CoH::GR is CoH3.

fear.

Just roll with the punches.

A combination of several factors: Frequency (this same suggestion is in at least three different sections of these forums), Vagueness of the post (the original post shows clear lack of understanding about the realities of game or program development), and the fact that long time vets tend to have a lot invested in the game.

The original poster has an axe to grind about the origins of the game (shown with the comment about removing the Cryptic Studios' logo). Even if they changed many of the underlying systems in the game, the logo would likely have to stay to honor the sale agreement because the content was a part of what Cryptic Studios developed.

Finally, as to the subject of this suggestion: I have stated in the locked thread that had the same basic request that a sequel has been tried and it isn't doing so well. It is called Champions Online.

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The original poster has been wishful thinking.

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Psssst.... Snowglobe? Wrong on many counts.

I'm aware how labor intensive this idea is. I'm aware just how many translators would need to be applied to get the data stores compatible with a new engine design (or have a decent estimate). I'm aware that long time vets have put in a lot of effort and money into the game.

I'm not suggesting a new game. I'm not suggesting that Long Time Vets be forced to lose their Vet status or character rewards. I'm suggesting that, in response to all the "COH2!" threads and the Devs constant struggle against the constraints of the engine; NCSoft should drop the cash on CoH to create this new backwards compatible super-engine.

Graphical updates like Ultra-Mode are fantastic. System updates like power customization and the Mission Architect are wonderous! But because the Engine doesn't recognize the side of a building as anything but a Wall (i.E. it has no climbable or walkable value) we'll never be able to wall climb. Because Water doesn't have the appropriate variable strings attached to it, we'll never have running on water with Super Speed.

I'm suggesting this massive engine-swap be done as a courtesy to the players. A possible title change to "City of Heroes 2" or something similar, and a boxed game on the shelves. You'd retain your characters, your badges, your costumes, your AE arcs, etc. The change would be in how the engine itself reads and maintains data. Currently it very likely reads a wall, for example, as a non-clipping object with specific dimensions using a specific texture arrangement. This could, using a translator, be set into an engine which understands other values such as "Wall Climb" or "Wall Jump". Such a translator could be programmed to give all objects -without- this variable line a variable line with a modifier of 1.

Yes. It would be a huge undertaking. Yes. It would cost more money than NCSoft is likely willing to put into the game. Yes. It would require a whole other team to create this engine, test it's compatibility, transfer the data stores over, and a dozen other major tasks while the current dev team works on the current engine to continue content production. Yes. It is a Pipe Dream.

But don't say it's vaguely worded, impossible, or that I have no understanding of how these things are accomplished.

-Rachel-

This is exactly what they have been doing since NCsoft purchased the City of Heroes franchise. Instead of doing it all at once, they are constantly upgrading the game. The problem comes in that it is more cost effective to upgrade as they have been doing.

Even with a new system I'd doubt you'd get either wall-walking or water running. Why? They don't want to be sued by Marvel again (Spiderman), or have DC sue them either (Flash). By the way, I can wall-climb via jumping right now with the current system without any jumping power at all, not even hurdle. It just takes practice.

Like what they have been doing since Issue 7?

Or perhaps "Going Rogue"?

Since NCsoft took over, a similar change happened to the powers database. Did you notice it? More than likely not. What some of us have been trying to say here is that these types of changes are already happening in the background. The problem you are facing is that they are not doing it all at once.

The other option is to do what they have been doing: upgrading where needed and financially viable.

I'll stand by the statement that the original post was vague. You wanted a nebulous "engine upgrade" without saying what you wanted other than to remove Cryptic's influence.

This does show a lack of understanding:
Would be impossible, as more than the various systems are involved. It was a part of the sale agreement and likely covers not only the various systems, but also the content that Cryptic developed.

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