Just to let you all know that when you choose swap ammo you get all three ammunition types, I think...
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did they make the ammo types seperate buttons now?
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Yes, you get the 3 separate types just by picking the power [Swap Ammo]
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Originally Posted by DSlice
did they make the ammo types seperate buttons now?
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That all looks very cool.
Does it play like anything else?
Swap Ammo changes the way it plays dramatically, so no. There are also a couple of other powers that are interestingly different.
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Except that changing your ammunition types doesn't actually dramatically change how the set plays. It alters the secondary effects and that's pretty much it. It alters DPA for some powers in ways that might skew their use in an optimized attack string, but the attacks function pretty much the same regardless of what ammo you're using. The tier 1 is still a tier 1, the tier 2 is still a tier 2, etc. Nothing particularly gamechanging: just the ability to cycle between knockdown w/ full lethal, -dam with 30% toxic, -rech/-spd with 30% cold, and rolling fire DoTs with 30% fire.
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Originally Posted by Microcosm
Swap Ammo changes the way it plays dramatically, so no.
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Some attacks just remind me too much of the MM Thugs pistol attacks.
But overall amazing!
I'm loving my test Dual Pistols!
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Yes please!
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Originally Posted by Alpha_A
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Hmm, I don't think so. It does have a lot of AoEs, though. I can see it becoming a major contender in the AoE department, especially when adding in incendiary rounds. |
Originally Posted by Harkness
That all looks very cool.
Does it play like anything else? |
The animations are like nothing I've seen before, being extremely flashy (although I do enjoy them!). I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the set. It won me over, that's for sure.
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Here you go! This is the link to my Photobucket, since posting 10 large screen shots would be a little annoying.|
Originally Posted by Nytemynde
Yes please!
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http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/mada34/Dual%20Pistols/?action=postuploadshare
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Sweet. Thanks for the screenies!
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Originally Posted by Alpha_A
Here you go! This is the link to my Photobucket, since posting 10 large screen shots would be a little annoying.
http://s626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/mada34/Dual%20Pistols/?action=postuploadshare |
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I was concerned about melee AoE, but it seems to be a lot of cones and ranged AoEs... It might rival Fire Blast for that.|
Originally Posted by Alpha_A
Hmm, I don't think so. It does have a lot of AoEs, though. I can see it becoming a major contender in the AoE department, especially when adding in incendiary rounds.
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Originally Posted by Alpha_A
The animations are like nothing I've seen before, being extremely flashy (although I do enjoy them!). I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the set. It won me over, that's for sure.
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It's looking like a wonderful set... How do you pre-order GR?
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Exactly! Nothing's more fun than watching your toon spaz out with guns at the ready!|
Originally Posted by Harkness
This was my other major concern. AR feels too dull for me to enjoy; a bit of flash and sparkle is fun when you're a superhero
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| It's looking like a wonderful set... How do you pre-order GR? |
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Has anyone that's beta-tested it got any opinions on pairings? It seems like MM would make a good Secondary for a Blaster...
MM is tasty. Hail + Shockwave is just plain rude, topping it off with Drain Psyche is just...yeah.
Anything with Build Up is nice, really.
And, bar maaaaybe the mez shot, there aren't really any powers that you would want to skip in it, since the Open patch. It's very, very shooty.
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Doh! To answer my own question: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=210328
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Originally Posted by Harkness
How do you pre-order GR?
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Those who I teamed with.../Mental, /EM was considered good. /DEV they all thought it was lacking (this is just people I've teamed with in beta's opinions...so other can and will disagree).|
Originally Posted by Harkness
Has anyone that's beta-tested it got any opinions on pairings? It seems like MM would make a good Secondary for a Blaster...
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I enjoyed /Mental.
Agreed on the secondaries with a build up being good.
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I will personally either make a DP/Energy or DP/Fire Blaster, that or a DP/Dark DP/Kin Corruptor when DP comes out.
Also, please keep the data to yourself, not supposed to talk about it. >.>
Not supposed to talk about what, Ishaila? Pistols are in open beta, and anyone with an account can go on Test and toy around with their PEW PEW shinies.
IMO, Dark and Kin do seem to be the ideal way to go with it, but as a blaster, there are a lot of ways to take it. One of the unique things about Pistols is that the mez shot changes from a stun to a hold depending on your ammo type, so whatever style your secondary has, you can still stack it. Hail of Bullets looks amazing but when the flashiness is over, the damage will probably leave you unimpressed when not paired with Build Up. /Dev has its toys to redeem itself; mines can fix the burst damage dilemma and 'trops and stealth help, but not so much Death Blossom goodness.
The standard, run in guns blazing and kill everything NAO approach to blasters would likely mesh the best with /MM (extra AoEs to clear the crowds, Drain Psyche for support) /EM (Boost Range for the shortish cone and tier 3, lots of stunning and Smash/Energy damage for robots and hard targets). I could see a viable build put together with any secondary though depending on personal priorities.
I will say this though... Even though the majority of my high-level characters use weapon sets and are forced to redraw on a regular basis, and I have no problems with it in general (my Bane swaps from a gun to a mace to no weapon at all every other attack in large brawls), I'm finding myself very reluctant to put my pistols away in the middle of a fight to hit people with something else. The flow and grace to the attacks is just fun to watch, and I will probably stick to a secondary-light build on all my pistoliers except for the /Kin corruptor.
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No it doesn't play like anything else. I'd equate Pistols to Dual Blades very pretty but not high on damage.
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Originally Posted by Harkness
That all looks very cool.
Does it play like anything else? |
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DP/Fire strikes me as an awkward combination because DP is all cones and ranged, whereas /Fire is mostly melee and PBAoEs. Wouldn't you waste a lot of time jumping into and out of melee to set up your attacks?|
Originally Posted by Ishaila
I will personally either make a DP/Energy or DP/Fire Blaster, that or a DP/Dark DP/Kin Corruptor when DP comes out.
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I'll definitely be making a DP/Dark Corr vigilante once GR hits properly. That strikes me as an extremely fun build
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I felt I had to be more aware of what mobs were weak to what damage type so I can squeeze out the damage I was lacking thanks to not having aim. That felt like a dramatic difference to me, but I agree the different effects don't do a whole lot.|
Originally Posted by Umbral
Except that changing your ammunition types doesn't actually dramatically change how the set plays. It alters the secondary effects and that's pretty much it. It alters DPA for some powers in ways that might skew their use in an optimized attack string, but the attacks function pretty much the same regardless of what ammo you're using. The tier 1 is still a tier 1, the tier 2 is still a tier 2, etc. Nothing particularly gamechanging: just the ability to cycle between knockdown w/ full lethal, -dam with 30% toxic, -rech/-spd with 30% cold, and rolling fire DoTs with 30% fire.
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As to synergy, I tested with MM, as about half of everyone did I think, and it has very good synergy. With some extra recharge you can have a nice pbaoe attack chain and survive thanks to DP. (Counting the targeted aoe rain as part of that chain, as it is fast enough). Of course, MM is just a good set to pair with a lot of stuff.
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Hail of Bullets is pbaoe, and the targeted aoe rain can be used from melee. You can easily use it with a pbaoe focused secondary.
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Originally Posted by Harkness
DP/Fire strikes me as an awkward combination because DP is all cones and ranged, whereas /Fire is mostly melee and PBAoEs. Wouldn't you waste a lot of time jumping into and out of melee to set up your attacks?
I'll definitely be making a DP/Dark Corr vigilante once GR hits properly. That strikes me as an extremely fun build |
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Um... I would think if that were NOT the case, then I would expect the Thugs pistol attacks to be redesigned to use the new animations. |
Originally Posted by Pedro Schwartz
Some attacks just remind me too much of the MM Thugs pistol attacks.
But overall amazing! I'm loving my test Dual Pistols! |
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