The classic "newb scrapper" is probably Katana or Broadsword/Willpower. Good out of the box both offensively and defensively, along with plenty of room for expansion if you do later decide to start investing heavily in it.
I meant to type that MA/Willpower looked cool to but that I had read that MA was a weak/bad powerset due to little aoe attacks.
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It's not that bad. I have a MA/WP scrapper, and while he isn't an AoE monster he gets by just fine. |
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I meant to type that MA/Willpower looked cool to but that I had read that MA was a weak/bad powerset due to little aoe attacks.
Thansk again! |
MA isn't the powerhouse some sets are, but it isn't gimped by any means.
For the most part, the best scrapper set is Anything/Anything. Some will be better than others depending on situation or skill level, but none of them are actually "weak".
I concur with above posters, though. Katana or Broadsword and Willpower are the newbie friendliest sets. Willpower is largely "toggle up and go", and the sword sets have a good balance between single target and AoE, while providing some mitigation with Divine Avalanche/Parry.
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I would agree with starting on Freedom because it's easier to get Pick-up groups there. Every server has some jerks and such, and freedom is no exception. Try not to sucked into the "AE farms" as that isn't representative of what the game is really like. You could hit level 20 using AE farms in the first few hours of game play and not know anything about the game or your toon. That's not a good way to start/restart your experience here.
As for what to play... that really depends a lot on you. Scrapper is a good option as you can't really make any mistakes that will leave you wishing you picked a new combination at level 50. Elec/elec will have good AoE damage and it looks cool. It can be built to be very survivable. All "extreme survival" builds cost a lot, so if you're worried about spending influence, it doesn't matter if /elec is not as "uber strong" as some other sets.
You might take a look at /Shields. It is pretty popular right now because it *is* very strong, and even more so if you decide to invest a lot of influence in it after level 50.
Once you've made a choice, come back often and we'll give you more advice and math then you can possibly imagine on how to turn whatever you select into something fun and powerful.
Welcome to the forums and to the game. This is a great game for casual players, I hope you stay a while and enjoy your time here.
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I agree on Willpower being a very good secondary. Once you get into quick recovery and RTTC life gets reall good on a willpower scrap. As far as primary, I went with dual blades but pretty much whatever looks fun to you. I liked the whole Neo/Matrix theme'd lookin guy and went with that. It was a blast. I could get through missions pretty quickly and it was fine with SO enhancements till I was ready to start looking at Invention Origin Enhancements. By then I was running +3/4-5 but before I was fine on the normal settings and had a blast on teams.
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MA isn't great AoE wise, but it's got very good single target damage, and most of all, looks damn cool. So, if you like the sound of it, go for it. |
Originally Posted by Wyvernclaw
I meant to type that MA/Willpower looked cool to but that I had read that MA was a weak/bad powerset due to little aoe attacks.
Thansk again! |
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Try not to sucked into the "AE farms" as that isn't representative of what the game is really like.
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This is over the top mental slavery.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with that combination. Go for it. WP is a strong secondary and it will require little investment. I'd try to at least frankenslot your attacks though. Frankenslot definition: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Frankenslotting|
Originally Posted by Wyvernclaw
I meant to type that MA/Willpower looked cool to but that I had read that MA was a weak/bad powerset due to little aoe attacks.
Thansk again! |
The reason why I recommend frankenslotting is that it's cheap, it allows you to add a good amount of endurance redx and recharge without consuming slots and it usually means you're getting good accuracy and damage enhancement as well.
Katana/Willpower
- Easy to play (toggle up and kill, though you need to include Divine Avalanche in your attack chain)
- Probably difficult to mess up the build
- Has enough hit points, resistance and regeneration to give you time to realize you're in over your head, unlike some sets (Regeneration, for instance), where you can go from good to dead in seconds
- Easy to level, pretty much strong out of the box and all the way through
- Extreme top end performance potential, so it isn't just a starter scrapper
But if you can't, no problem, go Katana/Willpower. It's not just a jack of all trades, it's a master of some of them.
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Looking through the guides it seems most are out of date. I would think that most fo the information would still be good though as I am looking for general information and not getting to far into it.
Thanks for the replys! Im not sure at this point but it seems to be between Kat/Will, Elec/Elec"though i cant find a guide for that one" and MA/Will.
I don't know why but Elec/elec keeps coming back on my list even though the only thing I know about it is that its weak verse single targets compaired to others. maybe its the old spiderman cartoons i watched as a kid that had that Electro villian that seems so cool.
I would just make all three and let them battle it out leveling to 10 or 20 to see who got to become the new hero but im not real good at sticking with one toon normally and dont want to start the endless line of alt toons marching across my log in screen.
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Looking through the guides it seems most are out of date. I would think that most fo the information would still be good though as I am looking for general information and not getting to far into it.
Thanks for the replys! Im not sure at this point but it seems to be between Kat/Will, Elec/Elec"though i cant find a guide for that one" and MA/Will. I don't know why but Elec/elec keeps coming back on my list even though the only thing I know about it is that its weak verse single targets compaired to others. maybe its the old spiderman cartoons i watched as a kid that had that Electro villian that seems so cool. I would just make all three and let them battle it out leveling to 10 or 20 to see who got to become the new hero but im not real good at sticking with one toon normally and dont want to start the endless line of alt toons marching across my log in screen. |
Hint: If you look in brute guides you can find something that will give you the basic information you need. Brutes have had Electric a lot longer than scrappers or tanks have.
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The reason you can't find a guide for Elec/Elec is that it is still very new to scrappers.
Hint: If you look in brute guides you can find something that will give you the basic information you need. Brutes have had Electric a lot longer than scrappers or tanks have. |
Thanks!! off To Brutes I go!
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I have an AE mish that gets me to...say....lvl 40 in...idk....4 hours maybe. I've never bothered actually observing the passage of time but I do know for a fact it's quicker than trying to run 8man teams through sewers-->kr-->steel-->talos--etc.|
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I don't have a problem skipping all the content below lvl 40 because it's of no particular use to me.
I know, I know I'm gimping my own playing experience.
For me this game begins with Ms. Tina Macintyre. Am I wrong for believing this? Yes. Will my approach to the game change at some point? Yes.
Good thing this game has Orborobo flashback system.
As to the question at hand, I agree with others. Scrapper is a good place to start. Willpower is even better. Willpower paired with Katana is even betterer ;p
I would say broadsword but idk..a new player might enjoy the lower damage faster recharge of katana as opposed to the slower recharge higher damage of broad.
After 21 months I'm still n00b so I suggest you listen more to those forumites who are well known.
The main reason there's a lack of newer Guides out there is that, since your absence, a new feature called "Combat Attributes" has been introduced. While a pretty awesome addition, the numbers you see there (you click "Powers" in your tray, then "Combat Attributes") really only mean something to people who have a deeper-than-usual grasp of in-game numbers. However, the Guides are still an extremely valuable resource for figuring out the specific synergies between power set combos, as well as strategies for both general play and what to do at certain levels.
Well, the better guides, anyway.
Broad Sword is pretty much the same as Katana. There are some minor differences, and they tend to favor Katana, but you won't gimp yourself either way. It may be worth at least getting a FEW levels on each, like taking both to ten. That should give you a good feel for each primary, and really, the feel is the main difference between the two.
As for an absence of guides, I think these days most people just go straight to the forum with questions. Might be nice to just have something to read, but sometimes there isn't.
As far as guides, though, I'd look for Mojo_'s Katana/Willpower guide, and Garthalus's Broad Sword/Willpower guide.
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"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Go Elec/Elec! If that's what's calling you. Go for it!
All you need to know for an Elec/Elec you can learn right here on the boards. Like don't skip the mez protection!
Is Elec Melee short on ST damage? Well, when you have multiple choices, people are going to make lists, and something on that list has to be at the bottom.
That said, it's not the bottom bottom of the list. And it's a fun set!
Now with just SO's. Yes, you're going to feel squishier than some other defense sets, but *shrug*
See if you like it, and if you do, worry about IOs then 
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HI! I played City of Heroes at release and now and then since. Never more than a few days at a time though. It was always my patchday MMO"I would only play it on the patch day of another game".
Now playing that much has been gone for a few years. I have a 35th tank,blaster and scrapper and a few others.
I tell you all this just so you will know I have VERY basic playing knowledge only but at least some idea how to play.
Im looking to start over and fresh as COH is now the only MMO I will be playing at least for a year or two.
I need a scrapper powerset that is friendly to Noobs with No Influence both in leveling and at max. I would hope that that powerset would handle end game content well "but realize that this prob means not the best as I don't have the Influence.
Just looking at the powersets Elec/Elec seems fun but really I have no idea how it handles ect..
I want to make one toon and not play another till that one toon reaches 50 so I thought id come ask what you guys thought.
Oh! also I planned on starting on Freedom server for the most people"or at least one of the most" is that right?
Thanks in advance for any help you want to throw my way.