Kheldian Macro Question


Adam Maqil

 

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Hey all,
I finally made it to my first 50 after more than 4 years in the game, and now have access to the elite classes. I made one of each, but have only had a chance to play the Peacebinger so far. Once I made it to lvl 6, I took Light Form (I think that's what it's called, the first of the shapes you can shift into).

Once that happened, I received some additional attacks that only work in that form, and all other abilities are greyed out. So, I was wondering if there was some way to make it so that when I pressed the Light Form power, to have my bottom tray be replaced by tray 4(actually 5 as I tend to put some of the generic powers like the Pocket D teleporter, Mission Teleported, Base teleporter, etc onto a seperate floating tray), which would contain all of my attack powers. I currently have a seperate floating tray for the powers, but I find it to be distracting, as I'm used to clicking on the 1st tray for all of my attack powers.

Now, I've found binds in some of the guides that do the above at the click of a key, but I was wondering if there was a way to do it while clicking on a power tray icon.

Thanks in advance.


 

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Originally Posted by Cainus View Post
Now, I've found binds in some of the guides that do the above at the click of a key, but I was wondering if there was a way to do it while clicking on a power tray icon.

Thanks in advance.
Pretty much the same way.

Just use the same commands you saw, but replace "/bind KEY" with "/macro NAME".

That will create a button for you to press on the tray instead.

Examples (For a WS):
On Tray 1:
/macro Dwf "powexec_toggle_on Black Dwarf$$goto_tray 8"
/macro Nov "powexec_toggle_on Dark Nova$$goto_tray 9"

On Tray 8:
/macro Hum "powexec_toggle_off Black Dwarf$$goto_tray 1"
/macro Nov "powexec_toggle_on Dark Nova$$goto_tray 9"

On Tray 9:
/macro Hum "powexec_toggle_off Dark Nova$$goto_tray 1"
/macro Dwf "powexec_toggle_on Black Dwarf$$goto_tray 8"

Dwf indicates changing into your Dwarf form, and displaying your Dwarf powers on tray 8.
Nov indicates changing into your Nova form, and displaying your Nova powers on tray 9.
Hum indicates changing back into your Human form, and displaying your Human powers on tray 1.

Optional changes would be to automatically turn on a toggle when switching back into Human form. To do this, use the following command in place of the "Hum" shown above:
/macro Hum "powexec_toggle_off Dark Nova$$powexec_toggle_on Gravity Shield$$goto_tray 1"

That one will put you back into Human form, and also automatically turn on your shield. You can replace it with whatever power you want, like Shadow Cloak or Orbiting Death. It's just personal preference at that point. You can't string them all together with a macro button like that, at least not without it being VERY messy. You're better off sticking to just 1. lol

If you get detoggled out of a form for whatever reason, you can still press the "Hum" macro button to go back to your Human tray without affecting your current status.

Anyway, you get the idea. I'm sure any other command preferences can be found in the other threads you were looking at, and easily substituted in however you want. I hope it helps!

Good luck, and GRATZ on your 50!


 

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That was incredibly detailed. Thank you.
Now, using the goto_tray will change your bottom most tray, I take it? While that's what I want, out of curiousity, is there a way to change any of the other trays (middle or top)?
Or is it based on the tray that the macro icon rests?


 

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Originally Posted by Cainus View Post
That was incredibly detailed. Thank you.
Now, using the goto_tray will change your bottom most tray, I take it? While that's what I want, out of curiousity, is there a way to change any of the other trays (middle or top)?
Or is it based on the tray that the macro icon rests?
No problem. I was going to assume the other threads you found had most of the commands you wanted, but I also figured there would have been mention of macro buttons on them as well, so I wanted to make sure we were on the same page. (I also tend to go on and on unnecessarily. lol)

Anyway, your initial assumption was correct, the "goto_tray #" command only changes the bottom tray, regardless of how or where the command is being run from.

To change the second(middle) tray, the command would be "goto_tray_alt #"
To change the third(top) tray, the command would be "goto_tray_alt2 #"

According to wiki, there seems to also be a command to change any of the other extra trays with another command, "goto_trays_tray pos# tray#", which I admit I have not messed around with much. If I'm interpreting it right, you'd select a tray number to be displayed in a specific tray position.

I'm currently heading to bed, so I can't test what I'm about to suggest, but I'd guess that the bottom tray is position 0, middle is 1, top is 2, and any additional tray would be 3-9, in the order they appear when you press the (+) button on the tray.

For example, if you had a fourth floating tray, and you wanted to make it switch to the 7th power tray, you'd use this command: "goto_trays_tray 3 7"

I hope that makes sense, and I hope that's right. I'll check back tomorrow. lol


 

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Originally Posted by Cainus View Post
Once I made it to lvl 6, I took Light Form (I think that's what it's called, the first of the shapes you can shift into).
Since the macro bit's been taken care of, thought I'd mention this.

Level 6, first form, is Nova.
Level 20, second form, is Dwarf.

Now, "So what, you know what I'm saying" might be some peoples' reactions - and yeah, we do know what you're saying (just put "bright" in front of each for PBs, "Dark" in front of each for Warshades,) but you'll run into potential confusion in the future if you keep calling it Light Form... because at level 38 (IIRC - late, anyway,) you DO get a power called "Light form" as a Peacebringer - basically Unstoppable, and yes, it changes how you look (and locks you into humanform powers for its duration.)


 

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You know, the minute read the first reply, I knew I messed up and should have used Nova. I mean, I've done enough missions against them to know that they're called Nova and Dwarf (I'm a huge fan of the ITF, and they're in the first 2 missions). It was just a late night brain fart (I was posting at 1am my time). Or maybe I had seen the Light Form during character creation, and it stuck in my head.

Master-Blade, that makes perfect sense. I havent tried it, but the reasoning is sound.
And, I dont know why I never think to check paragonwiki before asking questions here. I mean, I use it all the time for day job badges, for task force info, for weapon and costume unlockables. But I never seem to think of it for others.

And its strange that in all these years, I'd never made a macro before. I use keybinds all the time, especially for powers that provide you with a targetting reticle like Lightning Rod, Shield Charge, teleportation, etc (I mean the first thing I did on the Warshade was make a bind for their teleport power) or for pet commands on my masterminds.


 

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Originally Posted by Cainus View Post
Master-Blade, that makes perfect sense. I havent tried it, but the reasoning is sound.
Unfortunately, I just got around to testing that command, and I can't get it to do anything that the other commands don't already do.

The first number is indeed a tray number, but it seems to only accept the numbers 1,2,3 for the first 3 existing trays. I tried numbers higher than that, but get no results at all, not even an error message.


 

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Odd. There's no limitation I know of like that in game (while I use binds, not macros, mine are similar and use tray 7=nova, 8=human, 9=Dwarf.)


 

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Here are a few of mine

Humanform: powexec_toggleoff white dwarf$$powexec_toggleoff Bright Nova$$gototray 1$$gototrayalt 2

Lobster: powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4

Glittersquid: powexec_toggleon Bright Nova$$gototray 5

Build Up: powexec_toggleoff white dwarf$$powexec_toggleoff Bright Nova$$gototray 1$$gototrayalt 2$$powexec_name Build Up

Pulsar: powexec_toggleoff white dwarf$$powexec_toggleoff Bright Nova$$gototray 1$$gototrayalt 2$$powexec_name Pulsar


 

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Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
Unfortunately, I just got around to testing that command, and I can't get it to do anything that the other commands don't already do.

The first number is indeed a tray number, but it seems to only accept the numbers 1,2,3 for the first 3 existing trays. I tried numbers higher than that, but get no results at all, not even an error message.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
Odd. There's no limitation I know of like that in game (while I use binds, not macros, mine are similar and use tray 7=nova, 8=human, 9=Dwarf.)
I should clarify.. We already discussed the normal binds/macros that work perfectly above. This was to experiment the possible ability to do the same type of thing with the floating powertrays. Unfortunately, I can't find any command that allow you to do such a thing at all. The "goto_trays_tray" command lets you switch the indicated powertray to any of the 9 trays, yes, but the first integer in the command only accepts the numbers 1,2,3 to represent the first 3 trays that are attached together.

Usage:
goto_trays_tray 1 7 (makes the bottom row flip to #7)
goto_trays_tray 2 7 (makes the middle row flip to #7)
goto_trays_tray 3 7 (makes the top row flip to #7))
goto_trays_tray 4 7 (does nothing, even though I hoped it would flip the first floating tray to #7

You cannot use this command on the floating trays that open when you press the "+" on the interface, which is what I originally thought it would allow us to do. Instead, it would take a little bit of trickery to make it look that way (if you were going to use floating trays for the Kheld bind/macros). Instead of the goto_tray commands, you could simply place the floating trays in the same exact location and then use "hide tray#" and "show tray#" commands together to make those windows open and close instead.

In short, it's easier to just use the original tray via "goto_tray #" in the manner I described at the beginning of this thread (where I also use trays 8 and 9). lol


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
put "bright" in front of each for PBs, "Dark" in front of each for Warshades
For shame, M_B!
It's only "Bright" and "Dark" for Nova form. Dwarf uses "White" and "Black".

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Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
Examples (For a WS):
On Tray 1:
/macro Dwf "powexec_toggle_on Black Dwarf$$goto_tray 8"
/macro Nov "powexec_toggle_on Dark Nova$$goto_tray 9"

On Tray 8:
/macro Hum "powexec_toggle_off Black Dwarf$$goto_tray 1"
/macro Nov "powexec_toggle_on Dark Nova$$goto_tray 9"

On Tray 9:
/macro Hum "powexec_toggle_off Dark Nova$$goto_tray 1"
/macro Dwf "powexec_toggle_on Black Dwarf$$goto_tray 8"

Dwf indicates changing into your Dwarf form, and displaying your Dwarf powers on tray 8.
Nov indicates changing into your Nova form, and displaying your Nova powers on tray 9.
Hum indicates changing back into your Human form, and displaying your Human powers on tray 1.
As an additional comment on these macros, I like to recommend that, rather than using the /macro command to get an ugly generic macro button with text on it, you can instead enter a Gladiator match in the arena. (Of course, you need to obtain a gladiator first, which depending on the badges you have may require that you wait until level 10)

When you're in a Gladiator match, you have access to the Mastermind's pet commands in your pets window. Here's the rub: The buttons in the Pets window are actually macro buttons, which you can drag into your tray. And rather than being ugly gray buttons with text on them, they've got nice-looking pictures.

Once the pet command macro buttons are in your tray, you can right click them to edit the command, in order to suit your Kheldian. Personally, I like having the "Passive" icon (green/yellow with a human figure) for my human-form macro button, the "Aggressive" icon (red/yellow with a damage graphic) for my Nova-form macro button, and the "Defensive" icon (blue/yellow with a defense graphic) for my Dwarf-form macro button. The macro buttons you can drag & drop from the Gladiator match look like this:

Passive


Aggressive


Defensive


Attack


Follow


Goto


Stay


(There's also Dismiss, but I don't think that's available for Gladiators, and an icon indicating two pets have differing orders, but that's not a macro)


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After you put this keybind in what number(s) on the keyboard are you pressing for the command to work?

Where do we put the keybind in at? Chat Window?

After entering the keybind does this also mean i have to already have letter or number set for the toggle powers (for example, on my first tray i have 1-9 set to use an ability)?


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Originally Posted by Quinch View Post
Here are a few of mine

Humanform: powexec_toggleoff white dwarf$$powexec_toggleoff Bright Nova$$gototray 1$$gototrayalt 2

Lobster: powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4

Glittersquid: powexec_toggleon Bright Nova$$gototray 5

Build Up: powexec_toggleoff white dwarf$$powexec_toggleoff Bright Nova$$gototray 1$$gototrayalt 2$$powexec_name Build Up

Pulsar: powexec_toggleoff white dwarf$$powexec_toggleoff Bright Nova$$gototray 1$$gototrayalt 2$$powexec_name Pulsar


 

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Originally Posted by IshshaChets View Post
After you put this keybind in what number(s) on the keyboard are you pressing for the command to work?

Where do we put the keybind in at? Chat Window?

After entering the keybind does this also mean i have to already have letter or number set for the toggle powers (for example, on my first tray i have 1-9 set to use an ability)?
you need to input them in the chat window. Prepend with either /macro or /bind <key>

so it would be either /macro Dwf powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4
or /bind z powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4

if you choose the macro style you get a button in your powers that you can click, if you use the bind you just press z to execute it (you probably want to change z to some other key)


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Originally Posted by Icelock View Post
you need to input them in the chat window. Prepend with either /macro or /bind <key>

so it would be either /macro powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4
or /bind z powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4

if you choose the macro style you get a button in your powers that you can click, if you use the bind you just press z to execute it (you probably want to change z to some other key)
One little (but important) thing: /macro <name> <commands>

Macros need a name, the word that actually shows up in the tray. And you can only see 3-4 letters in the small icon space so shorter is better.

Ex: /macro Dwf powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4


 

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Also one final note with macros, it is important that the gototry command be at the end. There is an intermittent bug where the macro will lose anything after the gototray command.


 

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I use some binds - when I get home I'll post them, as well. Mine include a tag to swap my teleport key between the warshade and dwarf teleports.


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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
Mine include a tag to swap my teleport key between the warshade and dwarf teleports.
For this, I simply put the teleport powers in position 8 in each tray, then bound my LSHIFT to activate the 8th slot. Whichever mode I activate, the correct teleport is already in the right spot without having to change that bind too.


 

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Originally Posted by Triplash View Post
One little (but important) thing: /macro <name> <commands>

Macros need a name, the word that actually shows up in the tray. And you can only see 3-4 letters in the small icon space so shorter is better.

Ex: /macro Dwf powexec_toggleon White Dwarf$$gototray 4
Thanks for catching that, might have caused some frustration otherwise


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Command Bot 1 - Bot/Traps MM

 

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Originally Posted by Icelock View Post
Thanks for catching that, might have caused some frustration otherwise
Didn't want people thinking it was bad instructions because of a typo


 

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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
I use some binds - when I get home I'll post them, as well. Mine include a tag to swap my teleport key between the warshade and dwarf teleports.
Eh, forgot about this >.> Silly working extra hours.

Of course, you can have the bind files anywhere of your choice.
anyway :

H "powexec_toggleoff Black Dwarf$$powexec_toggleoff Dark Nova$$powexec_toggleon Shadow Cloak$$goto_tray 1$$bind_load_file_silent C:\CoXBind\teleport.txt"


Y "powexec_toggle_on Black Dwarf$$goto_tray 7$$bind_load_file_silent C:\CoXBind\teleport1.txt"


N "gototray 9$$powexec_toggleon Dark Nova"

with "teleport.txt" just having
T "powexec_name Shadow Step"

and "teleport1.txt" just having

T "powexec_name Black Dwarf Step"

Using the toggle on/off makes sure I don't accidental turn something on/off when I want it the other way around.


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